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deadanonymau5 · 27-05-2016 10:11pm #1

Just saw the Smart Pro 7, seems to be the new premium flagship from Vodafone this year. It has better specs than the Smart Ultra 7.

http://www.vodafone.com.tr/smart7/smart-pro-7.html

Technicial Specifications
Dimensions
154 x 75.65 x 6.99 mm
Weight
155 g Weight
Operating System
Android ™ 6.0, Marshmallow
Processor
4x1.8 GHz + 4x1.4 GHz (8 Core) Qualcomm processor
Memory
32 GB of internal memory
(expandable to 128 GB)
Performance
3 GB RAM
Screen
5.5-inch WQHD (2560 x 1440 )
AMOLED technologies in
Battery
3000 mAh
Qualcomm ™ Quick Charge ™ 3.0
Connection
GSM / EDGE / 3G / HSPA + / LTE-CAT6
Camera
16 MP rear 8 MP with flash Front Camera
Super Zoom (up to 4x) Auto Focus
4K Video Recording feature
Video Stabilizer (EIS)
Ultra-fast shooting (0-second delay)
HD 1080p @ 60fps video
Shlomo (720p @ 120fps)
Handheld Recognition (Jester Capture)
Geotagging
Real-time Facial Beauty
Other features
WiFi b / g / n, Bluetooth 4.0 with A2DP, GPS, NFC, HD Audio
Box Contents
Vodafone Smart Pro 7,
Charger,
USB Cable, Headset
Quick Start Guide,
Product Safety Information,
Mobile Phone User's Guide

StereoSound · 27-05-2016 10:17pm

I like this alot, I wonder who makes the Amoled panel in it and is it a decent quality one. Looks abit of a beast to be honest.

deadanonymau5 · 27-05-2016 10:19pm

StereoSound wrote: »

I like this alot, I wonder who makes the Amoled panel in it and is it a decent quality one. Looks abit of a beast to be honest.

Definitely a step up from Vodafone. Happy to seee this since the Smart Ultra 7 didnt look like much of an upgrade!

WQHD screen, quick charging, fingerprint scanner and 4K with EIS are great features!

Curb Your Enthusiasm · 27-05-2016 10:24pm

Wow! Vodafone are really stepping up their game. AMOLED display sounds awesome.

dahat · 27-05-2016 11:06pm

Any hint on price? Be around €180-190 maybe?

StereoSound · 27-05-2016 11:10pm

dahat wrote: »

Any hint on price? Be around €180-190 maybe?

I doubt it, I'd say this will be the 250 mark or abit more. They can't make it too high though as not many will pay too much for an own brand phone. The regular ultra 7 will probably be around the 180 mark.

dahat · 27-05-2016 11:12pm

StereoSound wrote: »

I doubt it, I'd say this will be the 250 mark or abit more. They can't make it too high though as not many will pay too much for an own brand phone. The regular ultra 7 will probably be around the 180 mark.

Bit pricey but i suppose it is a decent upgrade from the original 6.

deadanonymau5 · 27-05-2016 11:20pm

dahat wrote: »

Any hint on price? Be around €180-190 maybe?

StereoSound wrote: »

I doubt it, I'd say this will be the 250 mark or abit more. They can't make it too high though as not many will pay too much for an own brand phone. The regular ultra 7 will probably be around the 180 mark.

I agree with StereoSound. 250ish would still be a good price, excellent compared to some of the phones in bricks and mortar shops.

deadanonymau5 · 27-05-2016 11:24pm

It looks great in these videos

Stormington · 27-05-2016 11:41pm

This will definitely be the dark side of €200. It's not far off Oneplus specs so I won't be surprised if the price is similar initially. I reckon between €240 to €250 so hopefully it's less.

The single most important thing however is whether it will be as easily unlocked as the Smart Ultra 6 is. If it is easy to do and under €240 I'll be punching grannies out of the queue in the Vodafone shop to get one.

The Smart Ultra 7 doesn't look bad but its not much of an upgrade from the Ultra 6. I can see that being €200 at launch.

vectra · 28-05-2016 12:53am

Was looking at getting maybe a Oneplus 3 but this looks like a decent step up from the r ultra I currently have and love.

biebiebie · 28-05-2016 7:43am

At Modaco they say it's based on the Alcatel Idol 4s.

http://www.modaco.com/forums/topic/377282-smart-ultra-pro-7-are-on-the-horizon/

Looks nice and bang up there with current specs.

However if the smart ultra 6 is anything to go by, this will be stuck on Marshmallow and Android N will never see light of day.

That's one major negative for me anyhow, enough to prevent me from buying it. May not be a factor for others.

j_mo · 28-05-2016 9:18am

Is there any word yet on when this is going to be released?

CantGetNoSleep · 28-05-2016 11:29am

If Alcatel, could it be as tricky to unlock as the Smart Prime 6 was?

deadanonymau5 · 28-05-2016 1:55pm

j_mo wrote: »

Is there any word yet on when this is going to be released?

No. On the turkish site, you can leave your details and they'll contact you when its available. They only take turkish numbers.

StereoSound · 28-05-2016 2:01pm

Do you think this phone would be much of an upgrade over a Oneplus 2 if at all? I'm liking the idea of having a 16mp camera and a quad HD Amoled screen. But support could be little or nothing on this similar to how the Ultra 6 was. I love my Oneplus 2 but this caught my eye and I'm thinking now. I would probably go for this if it can be unlocked and is no more then 250 odd.

deadanonymau5 · 28-05-2016 2:07pm

StereoSound wrote: »

Do you think this phone would be much of an upgrade over a Oneplus 2 if at all? I'm liking the idea of having a 16mp camera and an Amoled screen. But support could be little or nothing on this similar to how the Ultra 6 was. I love my Oneplus 2 but this caught my eye and I'm thinking now.

I think it would be a downgrade. I think the camera would be better on the OP2 (Better sensor, probably a lower aperture for better low light performance, better sensor, laser autofocus and Optical Image Stabilisation).

Not sure about the AMOLED display but its the same resolution.

Id be buying it as a present or backup, not to replace my OP2.

StereoSound · 28-05-2016 2:14pm

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

I think it would be a downgrade. I think the camera would be better on the OP2 (Better sensor, probably a lower aperture for better low light performance, better sensor, laser autofocus and Optical Image Stabilisation).

Not sure about the AMOLED display but its the same resolution.

Id be buying it as a present or backup, not to replace my OP2.

Just dawned on me there my Oneplus 2 has 4gb ram and the pro has 3gb ram.
We don't really know which snapdragon processor exactly is even in this model either. I'm not thinking it's an 810 but probably a 650 or 652 now that I think of it.

deadanonymau5 · 28-05-2016 2:16pm

StereoSound wrote: »

Just dawned on me there my Oneplus 2 has 4gb ram and the pro has 3gb ram.
We don't really know which snapdragon processor exactly is even in this model either. I'm not thinking it's an 810 but probably a 650 or 652 now that I think of it.

Its the 650

53 seconds in

StereoSound · 28-05-2016 3:15pm

The 650 is using A72 cores and A53 cores. The 810 in the one plus 2 is using A57 and A53.

I'm gonna research this and see if there are any gains compared to the 810. Newer core architecture in the 650 so it seems. Also the adreno 510 GPU. Interesting.

EDIT: Just what I gathered myself looking around online, the adreno 510 on the 650 is a fair bit slower then the adreno 430 in the 810 chipsets. Its more inline with the Adreno 418 on the 808 chipset which is still very decent. The general performance benchmarks for the 650 and 810 on AnTuTu are pretty close which makes the 650 abit of a beast.

Stormington · 28-05-2016 11:44pm

Hoping it was a 652 based on other forums but I wont turn my nose up at a 650.

Personal experience suggests alcatel phones can be difficult to unlock: the smart turbo 4 and idol 3 were a pain so I am wary for now.

Turkish prices are hopefully not fully reflective of the price: €425 after conversion for pre order is what they're going for but lots of electronics more expensive there. The ultra 7 is €275/335 for pre/rrp.

Amoled is 1440p and battery stays at 3000mAh: I don't see it lasting the bones of 2 days on a charge.

dahat · 28-05-2016 11:49pm

They can have it at those prices, shocking.

StereoSound · 29-05-2016 12:31am

Those conversion rates wouldnt reflect what they would sell them here for. Not a chance they would be advertised at those prices.. Who would fork that out over the popular branded phones?

Vodafone can send them back to China to the Alcatel or ZTE factory or whoever it is that is rebranding them if they think they can flog their own brand phones at Samsung prices.

Mantis Toboggan · 29-05-2016 7:48am

biebiebie wrote: »

At Modaco they say it's based on the Alcatel Idol 4s.

http://www.modaco.com/forums/topic/377282-smart-ultra-pro-7-are-on-the-horizon/

Looks nice and bang up there with current specs.

However if the smart ultra 6 is anything to go by, this will be stuck on Marshmallow and Android N will never see light of day.

That's one major negative for me anyhow, enough to prevent me from buying it. May not be a factor for others.

If I've learned anything from software updates on phones it's that they generally cause more harm than good.

29-05-2016 8:02am

dahat wrote: »

They can have it at those prices, shocking.

Why so? At the end of the day, it will be competitively priced for the specs it has. If it's outside your budget, buy a cheaper phone.

deadanonymau5 · 29-05-2016 12:47pm

Stormington wrote: »

Hoping it was a 652 based on other forums but I wont turn my nose up at a 650.

Personal experience suggests alcatel phones can be difficult to unlock: the smart turbo 4 and idol 3 were a pain so I am wary for now.

Turkish prices are hopefully not fully reflective of the price: €425 after conversion for pre order is what they're going for but lots of electronics more expensive there. The ultra 7 is €275/335 for pre/rrp.

Amoled is 1440p and battery stays at 3000mAh: I don't see it lasting the bones of 2 days on a charge.

Where are you getting these prices from? I can't find them on the Vodafone Turkey site

Stormington · 29-05-2016 3:05pm

Those conversion rates wouldnt reflect what they would sell them here for. Not a chance they would be advertised at those prices.. Who would fork that out over the popular branded phones?

I think you're right about that. I did have a caveat that stated that Turkey tends to pay more for electronics which reflects the higher price there. I can only speculate that they have a similar regime to India where phones imported are subject to a rake of import duties, levies and taxes.

Where are you getting these prices from? I can't find them on the Vodafone Turkey site

They aren't. I did a bit more digging.

With xe.com those are the prices of the items I got.

If you want to trawl a Portuguese forum here there is a post that mentions 1399 TYL. You'll also notice the link states that it has a snapdragon 652 though the blurry video linked earlier confirms a 650. I'm happy when Antutu tests show a benchmark just behind a Galaxy Note 5 for what that is worth.

Here are some more stats to mull over.

With this being made by Alcatel/TCL I think more and more that it will be more difficult to unlock than the ZTE-made Ultra 6. If it is there might have to be some sort of unlock code swapping arrangement sorted if anyone is willing.

deadanonymau5 · 29-05-2016 6:37pm

Stormington wrote: »

Thanks

More importantly, according to the pic the release date in Turkey is July 1st for the Smart Ultra 7 and Smart Pro 7. (Google tells me Tammuz is July)

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Can we abbreviate the phones to SU7 and SP7... typing them out in full adds up

CantGetNoSleep · 29-05-2016 7:55pm

What is that tablet like? Is it a 7 or 10 inch? Reckon there is a big shortage of decent 9/10 inch Android tablets at the price you can get a very decent phone for now

neacy69 · 30-05-2016 10:39am

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

What is that tablet like? Is it a 7 or 10 inch? Reckon there is a big shortage of decent 9/10 inch Android tablets at the price you can get a very decent phone for now

Is this is site is any good then:

http://shiftdelete.net/vodafone-smart-tab-7-ozellikleri-ve-fiyati-71816

Smart Tab 7 Located 10.1-inch IPS screen in full HD resolution, while the 2 GB of RAM, as well as expandable to 16 GB with microSD card is given to the internal storage location.

5 megapixel rear and 2 megapixel camera accompanied the tablet front, to offer users long battery life 5830 mAh capacity is supplied from the battery.

Vodafone Smart Tab 7 will go on sale on August 1 with a TYL749 price tag. However, the phone will be provided specially From TYL 699 sales to users who want to buy the pre-order.

hopefully that price is a mistranslation :eek:
edit: rrp seems to be TYL699 which is about €230

deadanonymau5 · 30-05-2016 11:30am

Someone mentioned that the turkish generally pay more for electronics

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