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EI110 JFK SNN

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  • 29-09-2015 12:15am
    #1
    The_Wanderer
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    Looks like EI110 could be in trouble. Circling off Long Island shortly after takeoff.


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    pajoguy
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    FR24


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    The_Wanderer
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    pajoguy wrote: »
    FR24

    Thanks. Am on mobile and wasn't giving me a option to post a screens hot. However it is now!


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    mickdw
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    Looks like it's back on the ground in jfk


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    #5
    highlydebased
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    Hydraulic issue

    https://twitter.com/aquamanatee/status/648656000027860992

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/09/28/aerlingus-flight-returned/


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    Noxegon
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    Calm, cool, and collected.

    http://www.liveatc.net/forums/atcaviation-audio-clips/ein11ea-hydraulic-failure/

    I develop Superior Solitaire when I'm not procrastinating on boards.ie.



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    Muppet Man
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    Mother in law was on it... She's already asleep in her hotel... Ready for another unplanned day of shopping no doubt.


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    Seanie_H
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    Small brake fire after landing heavy apparently.


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    Tom Dunne
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    Badly written article on it here:

    http://abc7ny.com/travel/aer-lingus-flight-experiences-fire-in-brakes-upon-emergency-landing-at-jfk-airport/1007055/


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    AndyBoBandy
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    Sounds like training kicked in and the crew handled the situation expertly.


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    kub
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    Does that suggest they had no flaps upon landing?


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    eusap
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    The news video on Independent.ie is comical


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    vicwatson
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    Using a 737 on this route? According to indo article.

    EDIT They must be reading this thread as theyve amended the website to show 757 !!


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    AndyBoBandy
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    kub wrote: »
    Does that suggest they had no flaps upon landing?

    Thats what they are saying, although the flaps appear to be extended somewhat in the picture above, although they look like they are set for take off, so perhaps they couldn't be retracted initially, and also extended further for approach/landing


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    flanzer
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    eusap wrote: »
    The news video on Independent.ie is comical

    Yeah, looks like a sketch straight from Family Guy! 'Hi, I'm Tom Tucker', 'Over to Tricia Takanawa in JFK', ' Back to you Tom'. The melodramatics of the video is hilarious :D

    Anyway, kudos and credit to the crew as always. Sounds like a job well done


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    Skuxx
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    I can't wait for the DailyMail to publish an article on this! :p


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    AndyBoBandy
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    Skuxx wrote: »
    I can't wait for the DailyMail to publish an article on this! :p

    and still blame Ryanair.


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    Skuxx
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    I noticed they mentioned problems with flaps in the various articles I've read, presumably due to the hydraulic failure, does the 757 not have an option to retract/ extent flaps electrically like in the 737?


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    ElNino
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3252914/Hydraulic-issues-Aer-Lingus-flight-bound-Ireland-causes-fire-erupt-plane-s-landing-gear-compartment-emergency-landing-JFK.html

    A very mild article for the DM. Nothing about the "terrifying ordeal" that the passengers endured.


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    [Deleted User]
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    The reason the flaps look like they are down when it's stopped on the ground is the lack of hydraulic fluid, gravity will drop them down as there is no pressure to keep them up.


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    cowboyBuilder
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    I heard a bit of the audio on Pat Kenny - very calm and collected.

    Someone posted a link to an ATC forum that says has the audio, but seems to be gone now ?

    edit http://www.liveatc.net/forums/atcaviation-audio-clips/ein11ea-hydraulic-failure/

    says attached audio but there is none ..


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    b757
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    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    I heard a bit of the audio on Pat Kenny - very calm and collected.

    Someone posted a link to an ATC forum that says has the audio, but seems to be gone now ?

    edit http://www.liveatc.net/forums/atcaviation-audio-clips/ein11ea-hydraulic-failure/

    says attached audio but there is none ..

    You need to sign in to view.


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    AndyBoBandy
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    ElNino wrote: »
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3252914/Hydraulic-issues-Aer-Lingus-flight-bound-Ireland-causes-fire-erupt-plane-s-landing-gear-compartment-emergency-landing-JFK.html

    A very mild article for the DM. Nothing about the "terrifying ordeal" that the passengers endured.

    Some epic comments though stating that it was an Airbus! and for the DM to 'check it's facts'

    The article doesn't help though with a picture of an AL A320


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    Dardania
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    ElNino wrote: »
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3252914/Hydraulic-issues-Aer-Lingus-flight-bound-Ireland-causes-fire-erupt-plane-s-landing-gear-compartment-emergency-landing-JFK.html

    A very mild article for the DM. Nothing about the "terrifying ordeal" that the passengers endured.

    Pretty informative infact.

    My eyes hurt after looking at the comments...


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    cowboyBuilder
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    My god those comments are horrific


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    #26
    Bussywussy
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The reason the flaps look like they are down when it's stopped on the ground is the lack of hydraulic fluid, gravity will drop them down as there is no pressure to keep them up.

    That doesn't happen with those flaps.only aircraft I can think where that happens is the inboard L/E Krueger flaps on a 737


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    djsim101
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    Glad everyone arrived safely and it was a happy ending.


    However, this got me thinking of a few questions I would like to ask which I am sure the experts here would have an idea.


    1)What happens to this plane now and how long will it be out of action for? I presume it will be transferred to a local hanger to be repaired, would Aer Lingus mechanics fly over to oversee the repairs or would they out-source the work?


    2) What kind of safety checks would the aircraft go through before it would be allowed to fly commercially again? Would it need to go through an entire flight check or just the problem \ system areas?


    3) Does the Carrier foot the repair bills or would be the manufacture (if it turns out to be a fault with a part rather than a maintenance issue?


    Thanks lads,


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    ElNino
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    djsim101 wrote: »
    Glad everyone arrived safely and it was a happy ending.


    However, this got me thinking of a few questions I would like to ask which I am sure the experts here would have an idea.


    1)What happens to this plane now and how long will it be out of action for? I presume it will be transferred to a local hanger to be repaired, would Aer Lingus mechanics fly over to oversee the repairs or would they out-source the work?


    2) What kind of safety checks would the aircraft go through before it would be allowed to fly commercially again? Would it need to go through an entire flight check or just the problem \ system areas?


    3) Does the Carrier foot the repair bills or would be the manufacture (if it turns out to be a fault with a part rather than a maintenance issue?


    Thanks lads,

    Good questions but there is another party involved as the 757 was wet leased from Air Contractors. Maybe someone more knowledgeable on here will know whether the operator or owner are usually responsible for repairs on wet leases.


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    ProfessorPlum
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    The aircraft isn't wet leased - it's operated by ACL, they will be responsible for all repairs etc.


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    duskyjoe
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    The reason the flaps look like they are down when it's stopped on the ground is the lack of hydraulic fluid, gravity will drop them down as there is no pressure to keep them up.

    What a load of sh one t. Sorry to be so direct but hog wash and me don't see eye to eye. ��

    If the flaps are not working due hydraulic failure, alternate flap is used which is powered by electric servo motors. The flaps won't move due gravity after landing.

    Look up smart cockpit , trawl up b757 manuals and root through to the section on flight controls, sub section flaps.


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    mr.anonymous
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    Gear doors look open in the picture. Does that suggest a gravity extension?

    Air Contractors will pay. There's likely maintenance available at jfk. They'll repair the fault. There's also a check that has to be done after an overweight landing AFAIK.


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