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Restoring a ruin

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  • 03-09-2015 8:24pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 2


    Hi there, sorry if this has been done already. Had a search and couldn't find anything recent.

    I'm looking at restoring an old church hall in west of Ireland and would love to hear some opinions. It's smallish - 56sq mtr. The walls are sound the roof isn't.

    In a casual conversation with local builder he reckoned between 800 and 900 euro per sq mtr if I did some of the work myself and it wasn't to a super high standard of finish. Does this sound about right?

    The other thing is planning. If I keep the original structure, windows in same place etc do I need PP? If I was to extend at the rear less than 40sq mtr would I need PP for that?

    Thanks for reading. Any advice welcomed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 808 ✭✭✭Angry bird


    concancon wrote: »
    Hi there, sorry if this has been done already. Had a search and couldn't find anything recent.

    I'm looking at restoring an old church hall in west of Ireland and would love to hear some opinions. It's smallish - 56sq mtr. The walls are sound the roof isn't.

    In a casual conversation with local builder he reckoned between 800 and 900 euro per sq mtr if I did some of the work myself and it wasn't to a super high standard of finish. Does this sound about right?

    The other thing is planning. If I keep the original structure, windows in same place etc do I need PP? If I was to extend at the rear less than 40sq mtr would I need PP for that?

    Thanks for reading. Any advice welcomed.

    You may well need planning and in this regard arrange a pre planning with the local council for their opinion and indeed to find out if it's a protected structure. The more info you bring like sketches of your proposed restoration the more feedback you can get. From there you will have a fair idea of whether your proposal is exempt from planning and therefore submit a section 5 declaration or apply for planning. Good luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 concancon


    Thank you. Pre planning meeting is my next step alright. I had wondered if it could be protected. Does this mean it would have to be restored to original state or just not be touched?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 808 ✭✭✭Angry bird


    concancon wrote: »
    Thank you. Pre planning meeting is my next step alright. I had wondered if it could be protected. Does this mean it would have to be restored to original state or just not be touched?

    If it's a protected structure then apply for a section 57 declaration as to what is and is not protected. It's free and will be done by a conservation expert. From there you would hire your own already armed with lots of info on what you can and cannot do. If not a protected structure then it's general policy re ruins. Bring photos of inside and out to the pre planning meeting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,193 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    AB will keep u right on the planning: my worry is that the cost of insulation, damp proofing, airtightness etc will be mega bucks mary.
    So if its protected, then your options are severely limited.

    Now as its a ruined church as opposed to a habitable dwelling,, am just asking the question, could you just 'doze it and start anew?

    ps: what about services, water leky, sewage, Sky,:D etc

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