8 new bridges for Cork

Jimmy Bottles · 15-05-2015 9:51am #1

Saw this head line on the front of the Echo on Monday. Didn't read it and I haven't seen a thing on line about it.

Anyone know what the full story is ?

Pitcairn · 15-05-2015 10:07am

It's the new City Development Plan.
http://www.corkcitydevelopmentplan.ie/

It mention about eight new bridges to be developed either in the medium or long term.

There will be two bridges at the Beamish site connected to the events centre.
There are three bridges planned in the docklands. One near Pairc Ui Chaoimh, another at Water Street by the train station and maybe a third near Kennedy Quay.
There is a footbridge planned for Merchant's Quay across to the back of the Metropole.
A bridge from UCC's lab place across to the Mercy.
I think UCC are planning another bridge in their own grounds near the main gates. Forget what it's called though.

parkerpen · 17-05-2015 5:11pm

We are a city built on islands so with all the new developments, it stands to reason we need more bridges. I am really impressed by some of the locations.

whisky_galore · 18-05-2015 8:10am

I managed fine with the old bridges...

Jimmy Bottles · 18-05-2015 12:10pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

I managed fine with the old bridges...

Those 3 new bridges downstream of the city centre will be fantastic. Will open up the socks and Blackrock to the other side of the river and will take loads of traffic out of the city centre.

bogman · 18-05-2015 12:22pm

Jimmy Bottles wrote: »

Saw this head line on the front of the Echo on Monday. Didn't read it and I haven't seen a thing on line about it.

Anyone know what the full story is ?

Long term just like the proposed Cork to Limerick motorway, Cork gets the crumbs im afraid.

leahyl · 18-05-2015 12:45pm

The three bridges proposed for along the marina area would be great; was just saying the other day that it would be great not only for traffic but for people on the north side (like myself

) who would like to go running along the marina, could just run down to the lower road and then across the bridge to the marina.

lisasimpson · 18-05-2015 3:12pm

One of the lower ones down by the marina is badly needed esp once the albert quay site is opened for business. The site that lost out to bemish site is now earmaked for office development so could lead to serious conjestion at that end of town.Hopefully one if the lower ones get prioitized.

dewdrop · 18-05-2015 4:58pm

Does this mean boats will no longer come up to the Quays?

the beer revolu · 18-05-2015 5:02pm

dewdrop wrote: »

Does this mean boats will no longer come up to the Quays?

Unless they build lifting /swinging bridges, yes.
I'd miss having ships and yachts in town.

koriko · 18-05-2015 7:26pm

Jimmy Bottles wrote: »

Those 3 new bridges downstream of the city centre will be fantastic. Will open up the socks and Blackrock to the other side of the river and will take loads of traffic out of the city centre.

A footbridge of some sort would be fantastic between blackrock/ Mahon. Although dunno how feasible one would be with ships coming in and out.

KCAccidental · 18-05-2015 11:47pm

this would all tie in with the remaining parts of the inner port being moved to ringaskiddy.

wheresmybeaver · 19-05-2015 8:13am

the beer revolu wrote: »

Unless they build lifting /swinging bridges, yes.
I'd miss having ships and yachts in town.

That's an awful lot of ship activity disappearing; there's the commercial ships alongside the old odlums building and quite a few visiting navy vessels, research vessels, trawlers, yachts etc. Are they building a visitor-friendly marina somewhere to accommodate them? Near parc ui chaoimh perhaps?

whisky_galore · 19-05-2015 8:16am

the beer revolu wrote: »

Unless they build lifting /swinging bridges, yes.
I'd miss having ships and yachts in town.

I'd much prefer seeing ships and boats in town rather than facilitating someone's running pastime. We're losing something intrinsic to the city here.

EDIT: had a rummage "all bridges are intended to have opening spans", thought the H&S brigade would scupper that, thankfully not.

leahyl · 19-05-2015 8:54am

whisky_galore wrote: »

I'd much prefer seeing ships and boats in town rather than facilitating someone's running pastime. We're losing something intrinsic to the city here.

EDIT: had a rummage "all bridges are intended to have opening spans", thought the H&S brigade would scupper that, thankfully not.

Is that a dig at my comment?? If it is, absolutely no need for it.

whisky_galore · 19-05-2015 9:00am

Calm down a small bit, buddy.

leahyl · 19-05-2015 9:41am

whisky_galore wrote: »

Calm down a small bit, buddy.

Cop yourself on.

valoren · 19-05-2015 11:45am

Can't we build a bridge?

*couldn't resist

aratsarse101 · 19-05-2015 1:12pm

Does anyone have a link to a map of location for the bridges down the marina? thanks

Rhys Essien · 19-05-2015 1:35pm

aratsarse101 wrote: »

Does anyone have a link to a map of location for the bridges down the marina? thanks

This was the proposed Eastern Gateway bridge at Tivoli linking the Tivoli skew bridge across.

This was to be the one at Water Street.

Michael.. · 19-05-2015 4:11pm

This is all pie in the sky stuff. The city council/NRA can't even get funding for the much needed Dunkettle Interchange upgrade or the N28 upgrade both of which are absolutely vital for the Cork economy. We'll be waiting a long time to get any of the mentioned bridges built. When it comes to getting funding for major infrastructure the city of Cork is getting screwed.

Pitcairn · 19-05-2015 4:50pm

aratsarse101 wrote: »

Does anyone have a link to a map of location for the bridges down the marina? thanks

This map was from when Howard Holdings were planning their development near Páirc Uí Chaoimh.

SpaceTime · 19-05-2015 4:55pm

At least Cork City, unlike certain other Irish urban settlements : cough: Dublin & Galway actually has far-sighted planning and medium and long term plans.

It's one of the few parts of Ireland that has had decent planning with the unfortunately named CLUTS plan and the others that have followed.

Development around the city is also not sprawled and we actually have a green belt and satellite towns. If this were Dublin you'd have continious housing estates from Wilton to Ballincollig and probably from Montenotte to Carrigtwohil and some kind of sprawling mess around Douglas.

Cork boy 55 · 20-05-2015 7:05pm

We need more water taxis and river ferries

Markcheese · 25-05-2015 9:50am

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

We need more water taxis and river ferries

Rowers don't like them -

whisky_galore · 25-05-2015 10:05am

Markcheese wrote: »

Rowers don't like them -

Whatever about rowers, I don't think it would be economic to operate them in such a small city, unless it was tourist summer river cruise, which operates already iirc.

Nash Bridges · 25-05-2015 10:33am

Even the addition of the Skew Bridge next to Pairc Ui Chaoimh would be a massive addition to the city. It would remove a lot of traffic going from Ballintemple/Blachrock/Mahon through the tunnel and also away from that horrible junction at Mahon Point. Hopefully Cork City will see this one at least go ahead very soon.

lisasimpson · 25-05-2015 11:09am

Nash Bridges wrote: »

Even the addition of the Skew Bridge next to Pairc Ui Chaoimh would be a massive addition to the city. It would remove a lot of traffic going from Ballintemple/Blachrock/Mahon through the tunnel and also away from that horrible junction at Mahon Point. Hopefully Cork City will see this one at least go ahead very soon.

True so many areas of the city and suburbs would benefit from that one bridge...should be an urgent one

moyners · 25-05-2015 11:56am

Nash Bridges wrote: »

Even the addition of the Skew Bridge next to Pairc Ui Chaoimh would be a massive addition to the city. It would remove a lot of traffic going from Ballintemple/Blachrock/Mahon through the tunnel and also away from that horrible junction at Mahon Point. Hopefully Cork City will see this one at least go ahead very soon.

Would that not involve diverting a lot of traffic through the planned Marina Public Park? (I'm not too familiar with that part of the city)

Nash Bridges · 25-05-2015 3:28pm

moyners wrote: »

Would that not involve diverting a lot of traffic through the planned Marina Public Park? (I'm not too familiar with that part of the city)

Not through the proposed park AFAIK, if it is ever built, it will be located at the opposite side of PUC away from the river Lee. The road to the city centre is pretty good and should be capable of handling increased traffic. The biggest problems from a new bridge next to PUC would be a lot more traffic in Ballintemple Village and Blackrock Village at the end of the Marina. Both of these can get a bit blocked with busses or large trucks at the moment so further works may be needed or else some traffic restrictions at both these spots.

There definitely would be knock on effects from a new bridge to be considered, but overall I think it would be very positive.

AugustusMinimus · 25-05-2015 6:13pm

moyners wrote: »

Would that not involve diverting a lot of traffic through the planned Marina Public Park? (I'm not too familiar with that part of the city)

The plans for the Atlantic Quarter is to turn the Monaghan Road into the main thoroughfare to cater for traffic coming over this bridge and heading into the city centre. The Centre Park Road would instead be the focal point of the entire Atlantic Quarter development. Have a look at the render below.

IMO, this swing bridge is vital and is probably more important than the other 2 further upstream. This bridge would spur on the docklands development.

8 new bridges for Cork

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