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  • 25-03-2015 2:19pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 321 ✭✭


    Hi guys,

    Ok ..so this is my current situation....

    I own my own house, it's in a sought after area in Cork - so there would be no problem looking for tenants to fill any vacant rooms or even letting the house out.

    I've been pondering for about 2 years now about going travelling. I currently work fulltime in a job that I enjoy but at the same time I am very open to change etc. but travel is something that I really would like to do...if this means quitting my job or if I'm lucky enough to get a sabbatical for the year..then I would go instantly!! I have a major urge for excitement and adventure and I know this is easily achieved through travel (I've already done some travel but nothing for a long period). Maybe I am going through a mid-life crisis (at 30yrs :o)...but I can't help but feel that I have nothing to lose and everything to gain!

    So..if I'm going to do this...I am going to need to rent out my house...either
    1. Let it out for a year (under a management company)
    2. Rent out a few rooms...keeping my own room for myself (in case I wanted to come back after 2/3mths).

    Can someone please advise me on what possibly is the best route to take....

    I would like the safe option of having the ability to go back home whenever I want..or if (for whichever reason) I needed to return home. Letting out a house and having various trouble with trying to evict the tenants, even after a contract is up, is not something I really want to do....I'm not tarnishing all tenants ..I've just heard some horror stories about evicting tenants and I really do not want to find myself in that situation!

    Any advice would be much obliged!

    Thanks in advance!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    My initial thought was to go with the rent a room scheme, so you still have your own room to come back to if/when you want. However, if you're off gallivanting in New Zealand, and the fridge breaks down, how would you handle that kind of thing? I think you'd really want someone you trust nearby that would handle that sort of thing for you with little to no input from you if there was an emergency.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    personally i'd let the whole house and hand over letting to an agent to fully manage. Last thing you want when your going Loco in Bangkok is a call about a leaking tap... best of luck... travel


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Rent a room scheme OP up to €12k pa
    It cuts out all tax, prtb, all of that.

    Just make sure your housemates are relatively trustworthy


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,237 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    Yeah OP, you dont wanna be bothered with that tax craic


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    You need to be resident to be eligible to avail of the Rent a room scheme


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭quietsailor


    athtrasna wrote: »
    You need to be resident to be eligible to avail of the Rent a room scheme

    There is a big difference between "Resident" or "Resident for tax purposes" you can live out of the country and still be resident for tax purposes - a good example is someone working on an oil rig or a ship. They live where they work but if they're in the country for more the circa 6 months they are resident for tax purposes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    http://www.revenue.ie/en/about/foi/s16/income-tax-capital-gains-tax-corporation-tax/part-07/07-01-32.pdf
    The room or rooms must be in a residential premises that is situated in the State and that is occupied by an individual as his/her sole or main residence during the particular tax year. An individual may live in more than one residence but can only avail of rent-a-room relief in respect of his/her sole or main residence. In general, an individual’s sole or main residence is that individual’s home for the greater part of the time and where friends and correspondents would expect to find him/her. The individual does not have to own the residence and it could, for example, be occupied as rented accommodation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,676 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Forget all this talk of rent-a-room relief: If you're travelling and not working here for most of the year, then your taxable income for the year won't be large enough for tax to be a big enough issue to base the decision on.

    I think the issue keeping a room for yourself is with the property management and quality of tenant you would get.

    I doubt you'd find a property manager willing to take the place on, given that you might be back and moving into one of the rooms in a few months. And as others have said, without a local property manager, you may be trying to talk to plumbers and find replacement tenants from the opposite side of the world. I also think the kind of folks who would take a room in a place, knowing that the owner might be back in a few months, could be less than idea tenants in how they'd treat the place - they would tend to care just about their room rather than the whole property. And the rent they pay would be lower because of it.

    My advice: bite the bullet and let it out for a year, managed by a local company who specialise in residential letting management (ie not just a general purpose estate agent whose main focus is sales). Decide that if you come home before then, you will simply move into a rent-a-room place yourself, until the tenants lease is up. If you do this, then most likely you won't be back in a few months, you will make the most of your travel experience and stay away for a decent amount of time.



    Background: I own a house on the other side of the world, and I did exactly what I've advised above. I told people that I was going travelling for probably between 3 months and 2 years - so far I've been away for seven years and counting. In that time, my house has had one major leak, which then resulted in all the pipe-work needing to be replaced: that needed a LOT of co-ordination between plumber, carpenter, painter, plasterer and well as tenant liaison. Having a local person to do this was worth their weight in gold (as well as legally required in my country).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭mickman


    personally i'd let the whole house and hand over letting to an agent to fully manage. Last thing you want when your going Loco in Bangkok is a call about a leaking tap... best of luck... travel

    Agree 100% . Your travelling would b ruined by any issues. What if some tenants took off and didnt pay a months rent ? You would have to re-advertise the house and how would you interview tenants ?

    Hand over to good mgt company and enjoy the travelling


  • Registered Users Posts: 321 ✭✭ElecKtrA


    Thank you all for your replies.

    I'm considering both options.

    1. Rent a room scheme: This appears like the easiest option. Advertise the rooms on Daft.ie , get some tenants in, take their word that they will pay on time every month. Keep my room ..if I ever wanted to return for a few weeks etc. Risk I will be taking is if anything were to go wrong i.e. breakages, leaks etc. then it will be difficult to try and sort this out whilst travelling...but can I still have a management company involved in case there are any snags?

    2. Letting out house: It's definitely more of the ideal option, in terms of peace of mind whilst travelling (knowing that their is a management agency involved and monthly payments will be made), however..i am really concerned about having difficult tenants! and the fact that maybe I don't want to lease my house out for the year (especially now with such a shortage of houses on the rental market!)....is there any clause that I can put in place that if I wanted to return home then I can give them prior notice to leave the house? Also..i don't really want to be hiring an accountant and going through all the PRTB jargon...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭mickman


    ElecKtrA wrote: »
    Thank you all for your replies.

    I'm considering both options.

    1. Rent a room scheme: This appears like the easiest option. Advertise the rooms on Daft.ie , get some tenants in, take their word that they will pay on time every month. Keep my room ..if I ever wanted to return for a few weeks etc. Risk I will be taking is if anything were to go wrong i.e. breakages, leaks etc. then it will be difficult to try and sort this out whilst travelling...but can I still have a management company involved in case there are any snags?

    2. Letting out house: It's definitely more of the ideal option, in terms of peace of mind whilst travelling (knowing that their is a management agency involved and monthly payments will be made), however..i am really concerned about having difficult tenants! and the fact that maybe I don't want to lease my house out for the year (especially now with such a shortage of houses on the rental market!)....is there any clause that I can put in place that if I wanted to return home then I can give them prior notice to leave the house? Also..i don't really want to be hiring an accountant and going through all the PRTB jargon...

    dont need an accountant, very simple return


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    ElecKtrA wrote: »
    Thank you all for your replies.

    I'm considering both options.

    1. Rent a room scheme: This appears like the easiest option. Advertise the rooms on Daft.ie , get some tenants in, take their word that they will pay on time every month. Keep my room ..if I ever wanted to return for a few weeks etc. Risk I will be taking is if anything were to go wrong i.e. breakages, leaks etc. then it will be difficult to try and sort this out whilst travelling...but can I still have a management company involved in case there are any snags?

    2. Letting out house: It's definitely more of the ideal option, in terms of peace of mind whilst travelling (knowing that their is a management agency involved and monthly payments will be made), however..i am really concerned about having difficult tenants! and the fact that maybe I don't want to lease my house out for the year (especially now with such a shortage of houses on the rental market!)....is there any clause that I can put in place that if I wanted to return home then I can give them prior notice to leave the house? Also..i don't really want to be hiring an accountant and going through all the PRTB jargon...

    In the case of a simple tax return you may find a full service letting agent who will prepare the return on your behalf. No need for any bells and whistles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,676 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    [QUOTE=ElecKtrA;94839447.but can I still have a management company involved in case there are any snags?
    [/QUOTE]

    Why don't you try ringing a few and asking if they would take on an arrangement like that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 321 ✭✭ElecKtrA


    Why don't you try ringing a few and asking if they would take on an arrangement like that.

    Cheers Mrs O Bumble..i think I will. :)


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