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Membership of AI enough to get baptismal record annotated.

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    #2
    nibtrix
    Registered Users Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭nibtrix


    So torn... Want to have my baptismal record annotated, don't want to join Athiest Ireland...ouch.

    Hopefully the letter you attached can be used as a precedent if you can prove another reason you have totally repudiated the catholic church.


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    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,279 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    That's a load of crap. You telling them should be enough, why do they need proof? It's hardly something you'd be lying about, is it? And it acknowledges "your apostasy", which makes it sound like you've committed a crime.


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    nibtrix
    Registered Users Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭nibtrix


    Zaph wrote: »
    That's a load of crap. You telling them should be enough, why do they need proof? It's hardly something you'd be lying about, is it? And it acknowledges "your apostasy", which makes it sound like you've committed a crime.

    But apostasy means that you have renounced your religion, which presumably is correct. Not that you're being kicked out for not believing, but a recognition that you don't believe.


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    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,279 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    I know it's technically correct, but to me it just sounds like something that would be read out on a charge sheet.


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    P_1
    Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Zaph wrote: »
    I know it's technically correct, but to me it just sounds like something that would be read out on a charge sheet.

    Well it wouldn't be unusual for the old CC to add in a bit of that good old fashioned guilt now would it.

    The cynic in me is wondering if AI are attempting to use this as a bit of a recruitment drive though but it is unusual to see the RC treating the same as other faith based groups though.


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    Morag
    Registered Users Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭Morag


    The person who did it tweeted it, I didn't see it via the AI account and I've yet to see any AI statement on it.
    Also I am not a member of AI, cos due to being a pagan :P


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    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,926 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    meh, you can just ask your record to be annotated anyway.

    They probably gave a laundry list of reasons to prove they were no longer RC and the bish's eye fixed upon the AI one.

    Life ain't always empty.



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    expectationlost
    Registered Users Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Indeed it is of course a factual record of an event that happened. However the proposed noting of the register would more than comply with Section 6 of the Data Protection Acts, 1988 and 2003.

    http://www.dataprotection.ie/docs/Case-Study-8-03-Catholic-Church-Baptismal-Records/107.htm


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    Gordon
    Registered Users Posts: 35,523 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Zaph wrote: »
    I know it's technically correct, but to me it just sounds like something that would be read out on a charge sheet.
    I think the noise around Islam regarding apostasy and hard line Muslims seeing death as the response to apostasy is giving apostasy a bad name..

    Apostasy: comes from the greek Apostasia meaning defection or revolt, but I'm pretty sure it means 'from protection' if you were to take it literally.


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    Michael Nugent
    Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Michael Nugent


    nibtrix wrote: »
    So torn... Want to have my baptismal record annotated, don't want to join Athiest Ireland...ouch.
    On the bright side, Atheist Ireland allows you to leave. :)


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    goose2005
    Registered Users Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    Gordon wrote: »
    I think the noise around Islam regarding apostasy and hard line Muslims seeing death as the response to apostasy is giving apostasy a bad name..

    Apostasy: comes from the greek Apostasia meaning defection or revolt, but I'm pretty sure it means 'from protection' if you were to take it literally.

    apo - stasis: to move away from


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    Gordon
    Registered Users Posts: 35,523 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    goose2005 wrote: »
    apo - stasis: to move away from
    Could be, or maybe; from standing.


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    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Michael Nugent wrote: »
    On the bright side, Atheist Ireland allows you to leave. :)

    A stumbling block for some people may be that Atheist Ireland supports the destruction of religious items for lols:

    http://www.atheist.ie/2011/02/bringing-the-scientific-method-to-magic-crackers/

    That's a niche pursuit, at best.


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    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,713 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    A stumbling block for some people may be that Atheist Ireland supports the destruction of religious items for lols:

    http://www.atheist.ie/2011/02/bringing-the-scientific-method-to-magic-crackers/

    That's a niche pursuit, at best.

    telling fibs makes the baby Jebus cry.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    A stumbling block for some people may be that Atheist Ireland supports the destruction of religious items for lols:

    http://www.atheist.ie/2011/02/bringing-the-scientific-method-to-magic-crackers/

    That's a niche pursuit, at best.

    Give it a rest will you, you've already dragged an entire thread off topic with your nonsense

    PPlease don't start the same stuff here,


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    #17
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    A stumbling block for some people may be that Atheist Ireland supports the destruction of religious items for lols:

    http://www.atheist.ie/2011/02/bringing-the-scientific-method-to-magic-crackers/

    That's a niche pursuit, at best.

    Oh no, not the bread. This is worse persecution that the Jews got. If you are going to do testing make sure its on babies you took from the mothers because they were sinners but leave the bread alone!


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    #18
    brianon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,406 ✭✭✭brianon


    It seems being a member of Athiest Ireland is grounds enough to have your baptismal records annotated

    Something my parents did to me before I was one really doesn't factor into anything imo.

    I don't need a piece of paper to tell me I am not Catholic. I don't give 2 s**ts if there is a piece of paper out there that says I am something I am not.


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    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    brianon wrote: »
    .. I don't give 2 s**ts if there is a piece of paper out there that says I am something I am not.
    Its not bugging you at all? Not even a teeny weeny bit? :D


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    brianon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,406 ✭✭✭brianon


    recedite wrote: »
    Its not bugging you at all? Not even a teeny weeny bit? :D

    OK. A teeny weeny bit :D


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