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Breeding season 2014

  • 16-04-2014 11:23PM
    #1
    case 956
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭


    thought it be a good idea for people to dip in and share there experiences and pogress during the breeding. When are ye all hoping to start? Me I starting heifers from next Monday and cows the 26th April


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  • #2
    knockmulliner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭knockmulliner


    Started 7 days ago. 35 serves out of 100 animals. I will synchronise the balance of the heifers tomorrow. Happy enough with progress.


  • #3
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    case 956 wrote: »
    thought it be a good idea for people to dip in and share there experiences and pogress during the breeding. When are ye all hoping to start? Me I starting heifers from next Monday and cows the 26th April

    Ditto here, as going to start heifs tomorrow by will wait till Monday, burning bushes today


  • #4
    C4d78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭C4d78


    Cows going well. Heifers are a nightmare so far. Really hard to tell if bulling. Scratch cards on and teaser running with them. All over 370/380 kgs so size not a problem. Anyone same experience or any suggestions ??


  • #5
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,910 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    C4d78 wrote: »
    Cows going well. Heifers are a nightmare so far. Really hard to tell if bulling. Scratch cards on and teaser running with them. All over 370/380 kgs so size not a problem. Anyone same experience or any suggestions ??

    Could they be lacking in minerals ???.at 370-380kg there in supper condition


  • #6
    C4d78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭C4d78


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Could they be lacking in minerals ???.at 370-380kg there in supper condition

    Ya probably better condition than any year. Was thinking it could be a mineral thing as well. Have gone in with Selinium and Iodine in the water in past few days. I'm guessing this would take a while to make any difference thou??


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  • #7
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    C4d78 wrote: »
    Cows going well. Heifers are a nightmare so far. Really hard to tell if bulling. Scratch cards on and teaser running with them. All over 370/380 kgs so size not a problem. Anyone same experience or any suggestions ??

    Dont see alot of activity in my own but its a bull going in any way but the cows are bulling like nuts this year


  • #8
    case 956
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭case 956


    keep going wrote: »
    Dont see alot of activity in my own but its a bull going in any way but the cows are bulling like nuts this year


    see my own cows coming bulling 30 days after calving, next job is for them to hold the straw and not put back out on the ground :rolleyes: regarding heifers there all been round now, AI heifers for 10 days and the Hereford can go then allowing me time to concentrate on cows


  • #9
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Have being serving afew heifers and fertile cows the last few days with sexed straws, abit earlier incase they don't hold. With alot of short gestation bulls I don't see the reason to start too early in any case, on average our cows calved about a wk before their time.


  • #10
    jack o shea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 607 ✭✭✭jack o shea


    anyone ever chance 2 bulls together with the cows?


  • #11
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    jack o shea wrote: »
    anyone ever chance 2 bulls together with the cows?

    Why would you chance one?


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  • #12
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Starting Monday.
    Will have a nice break between autumn and spring calving now.
    All Nov all dec and all Jan.
    Will be a big difference compared to this year


  • #13
    jack o shea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 607 ✭✭✭jack o shea


    i mean would they fight?


  • #14
    visatorro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭visatorro


    a lad told me before if your running a bull have an odd number. if a cow is round two of them will fight leaving the smart fella to serve the cow. i work off farm so AI is very hard to do. started last autumn serving heifers with AI so at least i will have some good quality home grown replacements. freisan bull goes with cows then. im nearly at my max numbers wise so im toying with the idea of an angus or hereford bull and sell the calves. carry less stock.

    scanning next week. will scan autumn and spring calvers. then bull back with cows


  • #15
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    jack o shea wrote: »
    i mean would they fight?

    They'll sort out who's boss in a few minutes. I always run more than one as I be worried one would not be working


  • #16
    jack o shea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 607 ✭✭✭jack o shea


    let off a new young lad this evening with an older lad was worried il find a war zone in the morning, the older lad is a bit lame and worried he might not be working, was it the right thing to do?


  • #17
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    jack o shea wrote: »
    let off a new young lad this evening with an older lad was worried il find a war zone in the morning, the older lad is a bit lame and worried he might not be working, was it the right thing to do?

    Yes, most likely old guy not working. Are you going to remove and rest him


  • #18
    jack o shea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 607 ✭✭✭jack o shea


    i tried get him in this evening but he was having none of it he was mad after a cow which is good i suppose. could try him with the heifers?no roadway to be walking on.


  • #19
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    jack o shea wrote: »
    i tried get him in this evening but he was having none of it he was mad after a cow which is good i suppose. could try him with the heifers?no roadway to be walking on.

    Test him to see.
    Would you try AI a few?


  • #20
    jack o shea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 607 ✭✭✭jack o shea


    was thinking of ai but im not really set up for it properly, never did it before.


  • #21
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    jack o shea wrote: »
    was thinking of ai but im not really set up for it properly, never did it before.

    All ye need is a crush and a phone to call AI man.
    Even to do heifers would be a good job. You will very quickly see the return in 2-3 yrs


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  • #22
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    jack o shea wrote: »
    was thinking of ai but im not really set up for it properly, never did it before.

    Jack, you wouldn't have any regrets. Even if you did first round with heifers and cows.

    You could run heifers and cows together if you didn't have too many. Remove heifers as they're done. Some lads on their own do it


  • #23
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Not to be smart
    From other posts of yours you seem to be on heavy ground.

    If so why are you serving cows so early? Would it not suit you to serve in two weeks time and calve closer to turnout?


  • #24
    case 956
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭case 956


    Does anyone use the scratch cards on cows as well as heifers and also do you ai pm and am or just once daily cows and heifers


  • #25
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    case 956 wrote: »
    Does anyone use the scratch cards on cows as well as heifers and also do you ai pm and am or just once daily cows and heifers

    Used scratch cards on heifers last year, would prefer kmars TBH. Some think the opposite.

    All ai once a day here, am only.


  • #26
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Going to use kamars this year along with crayons and see how it goes.
    Only ever AId once a day in the last 30 yrs


  • #27
    RightTurnClyde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,146 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    +1 on the kamars. Have tried lots of alternatives on the heifers but the kamars are giving the best results by far. If they're put in right you'll need a vice grips to get them off. ( just thought of a good stag prank)
    AI in the morning after milking.


  • #28
    awaywithyou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    case 956 wrote: »
    Does anyone use the scratch cards on cows as well as heifers and also do you ai pm and am or just once daily cows and heifers

    I used to be an am and pm man for ai... But after doing a bit of reading into it over the winter and chatting to our ai man bout it..... Just going with once a dy this yr but it will be done at the same time every morning...


  • #29
    Deepsouthwest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    case 956 wrote: »
    Does anyone use the scratch cards on cows as well as heifers and also do you ai pm and am or just once daily cows and heifers

    Scratch cards in heifers and cows for the second yr in a row. Really think the scratch are the business here. AM only for AI here as well


  • #30
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    +1 on the kamars. Have tried lots of alternatives on the heifers but the kamars are giving the best results by far. If they're put in right you'll need a vice grips to get them off. ( just thought of a good stag prank)
    AI in the morning after milking.

    I'd have thought it would be more of a hen prank tbh.


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  • #31
    Nick64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 ✭Nick64


    For those ai once a day if a cow is mad bulling at ai time do ye do her then or leave her till next morning?


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