Mobile speed vans - have they cameras on both ends?

Col200sx · 12-10-2013 10:42pm #1

Or is it just out of the back of the van catching speeding traffic coming towards them and also far side traffic as it passes?

Ta : )

brilou23 · 12-10-2013 10:44pm

as far as i know its only out the back and takes in both sides of the road

ian87 · 12-10-2013 10:46pm

I got caught driving away from one. They got the rear of the car.

challengemaster · 12-10-2013 10:57pm

They do, to get the reg from motorbikes which only have rear plates.

I'm not sure if it's actually a functional speed check on both sides, though.

mgbgt1978 · 12-10-2013 11:12pm

They can only detect speed from the rear (going in either direction).
The front camera is to catch bike plates, as said, and also for security.....apparently some people like to set fire to these vans

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Col200sx · 12-10-2013 11:33pm

Thanks folks.

So theoretically if one was driving towards the front of a speed van breaking the limit, but was below the limit when passing, they'd be off the hook then right?

mgbgt1978 · 13-10-2013 10:02am

Correct....

ironclaw · 13-10-2013 10:50am

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

They can only detect speed from the rear (going in either direction).
The front camera is to catch bike plates, as said, and also for security.....apparently some people like to set fire to these vans .

Incorrect. Its just CCTV.

There is one camera and it is at the rear of the van. In the photo below, the camera is in the right window and the infrared flash is the large square unit at the top left of the roof line.

They can measure your speed if you are travelling towards or away from the rear doors. But only the rear camera can issue a photo that can be used for the purpose of issuing you a fine and points.

Col200sx · 13-10-2013 11:35am

Thanks folks that's cleared up so.

_Kaiser_ · 13-10-2013 11:40am

ironclaw wrote: »

Side note...
- Well-marked, well-surfaced stretch of road.. check
- Decently wide hard-shoulder.. check
- Blocking what looks like an entrance.. check

Seriously, instead of that camera symbol on the back/side they should replace it with this - € - it'd be more honest at least! :rolleyes:

mgbgt1978 · 13-10-2013 3:24pm

ironclaw wrote: »

Incorrect. Its just CCTV.

Never said that the front camera was anything but cctv.
It can be used to confirm the reg no. of a speeding vehicle without a front plate.

ironclaw · 13-10-2013 4:05pm

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

It can be used to confirm the reg no. of a speeding vehicle without a front plate.

It cannot be used for that purpose unless you can cite a technical source. At night, such a camera would be useless. And even in daylight would struggle.

mgbgt1978 · 13-10-2013 4:49pm

ironclaw wrote: »

It cannot be used for that purpose unless you can cite a technical source. At night, such a camera would be useless. And even in daylight would struggle.

Apologies:o.....I read on a different (inferior) forum that the front cam had a time-stamp to tie in with the rear speed cam.

blindside88 · 13-10-2013 8:40pm

Just out of curiosity, how do they issue speeding fines to motorcyclists if only the back camera is used?

slimjimmc · 13-10-2013 9:12pm

blindside88 wrote: »

Just out of curiosity, how do they issue speeding fines to motorcyclists if only the back camera is used?

Only motorcyclists approaching from the front of the van. Afaik they can't get a plate reading if the bike is approaching from the rear.

Days 298 · 13-10-2013 9:16pm

ironclaw wrote: »

Incorrect. Its just CCTV.

There is one camera and it is at the rear of the van. In the photo below, the camera is in the right window and the infrared flash is the large square unit at the top left of the roof line.

[IMG]http://www.limerickleader.ie/webimage/1.4925102.1363884976!/image/3842280091.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_595/3842280091.jpg[/IM] They can measure your speed if you are travelling towards or away from the rear doors. But only the rear camera can issue a photo that can be used for the purpose of issuing you a fine and points.[/img]

So how do they get people who keep the plate inside the front window at an angle and motorbikes?

ironclaw · 14-10-2013 9:29am

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

Apologies:o.....I read on a different (inferior) forum that the front cam had a time-stamp to tie in with the rear speed cam.

No worries at all. The camera at the back is actually a very interesting piece of kit if you have an interest in cameras. Lol. It has a very fast reaction time to changes in light i.e. If you went from dips to full heads as you approached, a standard camera would take a few seconds to adjust and focus. This camera does it in a fraction of the time. Hence why a standard CCTV camera would just not be good enough. Also you'd have issues of evidence gathering etc if a standard CCTV system was used (Not that its ever been challenged in Ireland. :rolleyes: )

So how do they get people who keep the plate inside the front window at an angle and motorbikes?

Well having a plate on the front window isn't all that common, also sure its illegal. But it takes a photo of the entire car, they normally just send you a crop of the reg. In that case, they would have the plate in the larger photo. Anyway, thats a fairly special case and it would be down to if someone was bothered. Imagine you have 100 fines from a few minutes work, are you going to bother chasing down one thats a little hard to read?

As for bikes, as has been said, only works if they are going away from the rear of the van. So a biker has a 50% chance of being caught really.

Mobile speed vans - have they cameras on both ends?

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