Ministers special treatment

martic · 31-07-2013 09:47PM #1

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0731/465678-kathleen-lynch/

The minister was transferred by air ambulance from Letterkenny Hospital to Cork University Hospital for further treatment and tests.

Below quote from The Donegal Democrats Facebook page

A spokesman for the Minister said her condition was stabilised in Letterkenny General Hospital.

While I would wish Kathleen Lynch or anyone else that takes ill a speedy recovery this story puts a bad taste in my mouth, the fact that the coast guard helicopter was taken out of action to fly a minister who was in a 'stable condition' to another hospital is a total waste of money and valued time for such an important service in a busy coastal area. I would question if it happened the ordinary joe soap would we have the luxury of a helicopter being provided.

Gatling · 31-07-2013 10:09PM

martic wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0731/465678-kathleen-lynch/

Below quote from The Donegal Democrats Facebook page

While I would wish Kathleen Lynch or anyone else that takes ill a speedy recovery this story puts a bad taste in my mouth, the fact that the coast guard helicopter was taken out of action to fly a minister who was in a 'stable condition' to another hospital is a total waste of money and valued time for such an important service in a busy coastal area. I would question if it happened the ordinary joe soap would we have the luxury of a helicopter being provided.

So she had blood poisoning aka Septicemia a very serious life threatening condition and your moaning because she was transfered to another hospital who could better deal with the condition ,

Seriously you make it out she had a cold or flu

oldyouth · 31-07-2013 10:11PM

I think the OP is asking whether you or I would have got the helicopter if we developed the same condition

Captain_Generic · 31-07-2013 10:12PM

martic wrote: »

to fly a minister who was in a 'stable condition'

She was actually in 'comfortable condition', its like comparing chairs and hammocks

alchemist33 · 31-07-2013 10:12PM

Gatling wrote: »

So she had blood poisoning aka Septicemia a very serious life threatening condition and your moaning because she was transfered to another hospital who could better deal with the condition ,

Seriously you make it out she had a cold or flu

If it was life threatening, they wouldn't have flown her to what's almost the furthest possible hospital on the island from Letterkenny.

Gatling · 31-07-2013 10:13PM

oldyouth wrote: »

I think the OP is asking whether you or I would have got the helicopter if we developed the same condition

Life threatening condition transfer don't see the issue its probably a daily occurance for Joe so's like us

Mint Sauce · 31-07-2013 10:14PM

martic wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0731/465678-kathleen-lynch/

Below quote from The Donegal Democrats Facebook page

While I would wish Kathleen Lynch or anyone else that takes ill a speedy recovery this story puts a bad taste in my mouth, the fact that the coast guard helicopter was taken out of action to fly a minister who was in a 'stable condition' to another hospital is a total waste of money and valued time for such an important service in a busy coastal area. I would question if it happened the ordinary joe soap would we have the luxury of a helicopter being provided.

Another hospital? The Hospital that she was visiting, Letterkenny in Donegal, had its A&E under a foot of water last week, and is still closed as a result. Hence the transfer to another hospital.

mikemac1 · 31-07-2013 10:14PM

martic wrote: »

the fact that the coast guard helicopter was taken out of action to fly a minister who was in a 'stable condition' to another hospital is a total waste of money and valued time

Crews have to stay sharp. They might have welcomed a trip to Cork

Kidchameleon · 31-07-2013 10:14PM

If it was an ordinary Joe Soap, they would have died on a trolly by now

martic · 31-07-2013 10:16PM

Life threatening yes but as it states she was stabilised in Letterkenny, I still no matter what reply I receive from you will question if it was the normal joe soap would we receive the same treatment. Also if the need for a helicopter to be deployed for her could the air corps not provide it instead of taking the coast guard helicopter away.

oldyouth · 31-07-2013 10:21PM

Gatling wrote: »

Life threatening condition transfer don't see the issue its probably a daily occurance for Joe so's like us

Well that's the question we're asking here. Personally, I would be doubtful, even with top level health insurance

caustic 1 · 31-07-2013 10:22PM

[QUOTEAnother hospital? The Hospital that she was visiting, Letterkenny in Donegal, had its A&E under a foot of water last week, and is still closed as a result. Hence the transfer to another hospital][/QUOTE]

Then like the rest of us why not be transferred to Derry or Sligo?

Gatling · 31-07-2013 10:22PM

The condition of Septicemia can change in minute's quite literally from stable to gravely ill ,
Did anybody think the hospital requested immidate transfer to a hospital with an isolation ward /room
Makes sense that the rescue helicopter was sent

Annasopra · 31-07-2013 10:23PM

Dont see any issue here at all

martic · 31-07-2013 10:24PM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Another hospital? The Hospital that she was visiting, Letterkenny in Donegal, had its A&E under a foot of water last week, and is still closed as a result. Hence the transfer to another hospital.

Are you saying then that Letterkenny hospital is in total shut down? why could she not have been transferred to Sligo, Derry or even Belfast, are the standards in these hospital not as good as the one closer to her home.

cameramonkey · 31-07-2013 10:25PM

martic wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0731/465678-kathleen-lynch/

Below quote from The Donegal Democrats Facebook page

While I would wish Kathleen Lynch or anyone else that takes ill a speedy recovery this story puts a bad taste in my mouth, the fact that the coast guard helicopter was taken out of action to fly a minister who was in a 'stable condition' to another hospital is a total waste of money and valued time for such an important service in a busy coastal area. I would question if it happened the ordinary joe soap would we have the luxury of a helicopter being provided.

How do you know they used the coast guard helicopter? I would think they used the air corps air ambulance service.

caustic 1 · 31-07-2013 10:25PM

So if I took Septicaemia I would be transferred by helicopter to Cork the other end of the island?

homer simpson · 31-07-2013 10:28PM

Gatling wrote: »

The condition of Septicemia can change in minute's quite literally from stable to gravely ill ,
Did anybody think the hospital requested immidate transfer to a hospital with an isolation ward /room
Makes sense that the rescue helicopter was sent

She was in ICU in Letterkenny.

The thing stinks. If it was to receive better treatment why was she not flown to Dublin. AFAIK Cork and letterkenny general hospitals are pretty much the same....

Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact her constituency is Cork :rolleyes:

you can be sure if I had the same misfortune in Cork I wouldn't be airlifted to Letterkenny.

homer simpson · 31-07-2013 10:32PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

How do you know they used the coast guard helicopter? I would think they used the air corps air ambulance service.

They did, circled LK earlier around 4 times then landed & took off. Photo taken from facebook. https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q81/s720x720/1004476_704336446259420_1908404869_n.jpg Need anymore proof

Mint Sauce · 31-07-2013 10:33PM

caustic 1 wrote: »

Then like the rest of us why not be transferred to Derry or Sligo?

Derry and Sligo are suffering a huge knock on effect as a result. You could ask why then she wasn't transfered to Galway, or a midlands hospital, I dont know.

But getting back to Letterkenny, Its not just their A&E, but some of the Radiology department, its Laboratory, and med records. I would like to think, they were not equipped to treat her due to the flooding, and Derry and Sligo due to the knock on effect.

martic · 31-07-2013 10:34PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

How do you know they used the coast guard helicopter? I would think they used the air corps air ambulance service.

I could be wrong as it could be just a picture for the article.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=704336446259420&set=pb.112739298752474.-2207520000.1375306219.&type=3&theater

martic · 31-07-2013 10:42PM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

I would like to think, they were not equipped to treat her due to the flooding, and Derry and Sligo due to the knock on effect.

I don't for one second believe stretched or not that if her condition was so serious and Letterkenny were not equipped to deal with it that she would be turned away from either hospitals.

kyote00 · 31-07-2013 10:43PM

This post is the usual poorly informed twaddle from AH. Mixing RTE and facebook information seamlessly.

Its the HSE air ambulance service that was used (and not the coast guard) ....
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/no-decision-made-on-future-of-hse-s-air-ambulance-service-1.1407994

There are also several private companies that do this

Septicaemia is a life threatening condition. The HSE service is also regularly used for road accidents, climbers, hill walkers and many other difficult situations

hawkelady · 31-07-2013 10:45PM

If it is true that the coastguard was used to transfer her so she is near home I think it's disgusting .. I'd bet my bottom dollar the average joe wouldn't be afforded such privileges !!

I'd love to know if she requested the transfer or did inda make a call ??
If the air corp moved her I'd be less annoyed but would this be common practice for patients suffering from such illnesses ?
If its the former I see Irish politics hasn't changed much.

kyote00 · 31-07-2013 10:47PM

Ah **** I give up....

260 average joes

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/no-decision-made-on-future-of-hse-s-air-ambulance-service-1.1407994

hawkelady wrote: »

If it is true that the coastguard was used to transfer her so she is near home I think it's disgusting .. I'd bet my bottom dollar the average joe wouldn't be afforded such privileges !!

I'd love to know if she requested the transfer or did inda make a call ??
If the air corp moved her I'd be less annoyed but would this be common practice for patients suffering from such illnesses ?
If its the former I see Irish politics hasn't changed much.

homer simpson · 31-07-2013 10:49PM

kyote00 wrote: »

This post is the usual poorly informed twaddle from AH. Mixing RTE and facebook information seamlessly.

Its the HSE air ambulance service that was used (and not the coast guard) ....
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/no-decision-made-on-future-of-hse-s-air-ambulance-service-1.1407994

There are also several private companies that do this

The aircraft that done this was EI ICA which is the new SIKORSKY S92A coast guard helicopter based in Sligo. Either that or there was a second heli in to airlift the junior minister that I didn't hear or see.

Regardless of aircraft used it still begs the question if it was an average Joe Soap would the same thing happen?

kyote00 · 31-07-2013 10:50PM

260 Average joes in the last year.

homer simpson wrote: »

The aircraft that done this was EI ICA which is the new SIKORSKY S92A coast guard helicopter based in Sligo. Either that or there was a second heli in to airlift the junior minister that I didn't hear or see.

Regardless of aircraft used it still begs the question if it was an average Joe Soap would the same thing happen?

Lando Griffin · 31-07-2013 10:52PM

We need a poll to decide.

kyote00 · 31-07-2013 10:53PM

No, lets legislate :P

Lando Griffin wrote: »

We need a poll to decide.

hawkelady · 31-07-2013 10:54PM

kyote00 wrote: »

Ah **** I give up....

260 average joes

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/no-decision-made-on-future-of-hse-s-air-ambulance-service-1.1407994

Oh right so being stable in hospital and getting a helicopter ride so you can be near home is the exact same as someone having a heart attack and getting airlifted to hospital !!!

Hope your feeling better kathy !!!!!!

Ps , still begs the question if I take a bad turn while on holidays in Kerry and am admitted to a Kerry hospital , I'll look forward to a lift back to a Dublin hospital in a helicopter???

alchemist33 · 31-07-2013 10:56PM

kyote00 wrote: »

260 Average joes in the last year.

Indeed, any of us will get airlifted if the situation demands it. But how many of those were taken to the opposite end of the country, to their own constituencies, bypassing a number of perfectly functional hospitals along the way?

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