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  • 18-06-2013 11:48pm
    #1
    Mr Guinness.
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭


    Hi. Got a new router in today eircom 50mg my home plugs don't seem to work off it.it was fine with my 8meg router. Anybody else have this problem?


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    SpaceTime
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    If it's a new eircom e-fibre router, make sure your home plug is connected to the LAN ports and not the WAN port.

    One of the ethernet ports will be a different colour to the rest, do not use that one.

    Basically, that's only used if you've actual fibre-to-home installed where the eircom router plugs into another device that connects directly to a fibre. This is not used in 99% of installations other than a couple of test areas where fibre-to-home was used.


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    Mr Guinness.
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭Mr Guinness.


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    If it's a new eircom e-fibre router, make sure your home plug is connected to the LAN ports and not the WAN port.

    One of the ethernet ports will be a different colour to the rest, do not use that one.

    Basically, that's only used if you've actual fibre-to-home installed where the eircom router plugs into another device that connects directly to a fibre. This is not used in 99% of installations other than a couple of test areas where fibre-to-home was used.

    No that's not the issue it was plugged into the correct port.it was working fine with my old 8mg can't figure it out.


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    Mr Guinness.
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭Mr Guinness.


    My openbox will not connect to my wifi.cccam says of line.anybody know how to get it back on line.


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    snaps
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    Mr Guinness. wrote: »
    My openbox will not connect to my wifi.cccam says of line.anybody know how to get it back on line.

    whoops!


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    #6
    winston_1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭winston_1


    Now might be a good time to get rid of the Homeplugs. They are nasty things that cause interference to your neighbours. A CAT5 cabled solution is much better. Or else consider this

    www.ethernetovercoax.co.uk


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    Avns1s
    Registered Users Posts: 3,422 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    winston_1 wrote: »
    Now might be a good time to get rid of the Homeplugs. They are nasty things that cause interference to your neighbours. A CAT5 cabled solution is much better. Or else consider this

    www.ethernetovercoax.co.uk

    At the price of those Ethernet over coax boxes, I'll be causing interference to the neighbours with my homeplugs for a long time to come!!


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    winston_1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭winston_1


    Avns1s wrote: »
    At the price of those Ethernet over coax boxes, I'll be causing interference to the neighbours with my homeplugs for a long time to come!!

    That is a very selfish, I'm all right Jack attitude. If someone complains you'll be forced to remove them anyway. Why not use the CAT 5 solution, cheap enough, and works better than PLT anyway.


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    excollier
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    winston_1 wrote: »
    Now might be a good time to get rid of the Homeplugs. They are nasty things that cause interference to your neighbours. A CAT5 cabled solution is much better. Or else consider this

    www.ethernetovercoax.co.uk
    It's great to live out in the sticks. I have homeplugs all over the house and out in the garage - no-one to complain.
    Who can afford to start ripping holes & tracks into walls to install cat 5 cabling when homeplugs are available - seriously.
    Great idea for a new build though but who builds these days?
    No broadband on the phone lines out here though.......


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    winston_1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭winston_1


    excollier wrote: »
    It's great to live out in the sticks. I have homeplugs all over the house and out in the garage - no-one to complain.
    Who can afford to start ripping holes & tracks into walls to install cat 5 cabling when homeplugs are available - seriously.
    Great idea for a new build though but who builds these days?
    No broadband on the phone lines out here though.......

    The interference can go to 500 metres, probably more out in the sticks with Homeplugs all over the house.

    No need to rip holes and tracks into the walls, just neat wiring on the skirting boards. CAT5 is neater and easier than satellite or aerial cables and no one has problems installing those.

    Read this from the BBC:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/publications/whitepaper195


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    excollier
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    And with my router upstairs, how do I get downstairs with Cat 5 cable? Drill a hole through my floor (which has underfloor heating) and then tack cables to walls and along skirting boards? That's not going to happen for so many reasons.
    I hear no interference with VHF (i.e. FM radio, I am an avid radio listener) while my plugs are active, and as for DAB, well that's simply non existent here (nor likely to be). No radio hams in the neighbourhood, so no problems created. No problem exists here, though I can see why it might be an urban problem.
    For a country dweller like me, it's an absolute no-brainer.


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    winston_1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭winston_1


    Don't know the layout of your house of course but I assume your phone line enters downstairs (most do). If so how did you get it upstairs to your router? CAT 5 can be run outside down the wall and then back in again as satellite and phone cables often are.

    Radio hams don't come into this argument by the way as ham frequencies are notched out by home plug manufacturers. This is of course an admission of guilt that interference is caused.

    There is at least one dealer who is prepared to put morals before profit and refuses to sell them:

    http://www.satcure.co.uk/accs/page22.htm#PLT


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    brian_gall85
    Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭brian_gall85


    winston_1 wrote: »
    If someone complains you'll be forced to remove them anyway.

    How so?


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    excollier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭excollier


    winston_1 wrote: »
    Don't know the layout of your house of course but I assume your phone line enters downstairs (most do). If so how did you get it upstairs to your router? CAT 5 can be run outside down the wall and then back in again as satellite and phone cables often are.

    Radio hams don't come into this argument by the way as ham frequencies are notched out by home plug manufacturers. This is of course an admission of guilt that interference is caused.

    There is at least one dealer who is prepared to put morals before profit and refuses to sell them:

    http://www.satcure.co.uk/accs/page22.htm#PLT

    That's ok. Guilty as charged (of what exactly?)


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    winston_1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭winston_1


    brian_gall85 wrote: »
    How so?

    Not absolutely sure how it works in Ireland but I assume it is similar to the UK. If there is a complaint of interference it will be investigated and if your homeplugs are responsible you will be told to stop using them. Several hundred pairs have been removed in the UK for this very reason.


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    #16
    winston_1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭winston_1


    excollier wrote: »
    Guilty as charged (of what exactly?)

    Causing interference.


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    excollier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭excollier


    winston_1 wrote: »
    Causing interference.
    What interference? There is none. Even if there were, there is no one close enough to be affected.


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    #18
    winston_1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭winston_1


    excollier wrote: »
    What interference? There is none. Even if there were, there is no one close enough to be affected.

    Mains wiring is unbalanced, unterminated, and not designed for RF. ALL homeplugs will cause interference when connected as instructed. You cannot change the laws of physics.

    Just because you don't use equipment that is affected (SW radio perhaps) does not mean it is not there. Whether there is any one close enough to be affected (500 plus metres) I don't know.


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    excollier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭excollier


    Well, if no-one is using affected equipment nearby, then no harm is done. This can only, at worst, be an urban problem.


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    brian_gall85
    Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭brian_gall85


    Apart from the odd "Doomsday Preper", I don't think I'll be doing anybody much harm...http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2008/oct/20/1


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