Job Bridge joke

allibastor · 11-06-2013 05:14PM #1

Just a quick one to you all, Where do you find out the guidlines for what a job bridge job should contain. Found this one in my own back garden of portloaise.
What a joke.

http://jobseeker.fas.ie/Default.aspx?q=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

Lunafizzle · 11-06-2013 05:17PM

:O Shocking!

Jimmy Garlic · 11-06-2013 05:19PM

Slave bridge. Contributing to unemployment in Ireland. Dodgy employers will sack someone so they can take on a slave.

allibastor · 11-06-2013 05:20PM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Slave bridge. Contributing to unemployment in Ireland. Dodgy employers will sack someone so they can take on a slave.

How does one make a complaint againt the job, or even who in thier right mind approved it.

Jimmy Garlic · 11-06-2013 05:29PM

allibastor wrote: »

How does one make a complaint againt the job, or even who in thier right mind approved it.

I know of one place that cleared out half it's staff for bogus reasons so it could take on people from slave bridge. It is a massive scam.

11-06-2013 05:29PM

You could add these to the list:
Shop Assistant
Kitchen Assistant
Hairdresser

That's just some on FAS WEbsite. An utter insulting joke!

Subutai · 11-06-2013 06:40PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You could add these to the list:
Shop Assistant
Kitchen Assistant
Hairdresser

That's just some on FAS WEbsite. An utter insulting joke!

I've also seen "deli assistant", "receptionist" and "Sales Assistent" (in a local shop, i.e. store clerk).

Rainbow_Bright · 11-06-2013 10:25PM

I figure it's a scheme to lower the apparent figures of those in the dole queue and increase the figures of those who are 'working'. It's all about the figures and paperwork .

It's also making it more difficult for those genuinely seeking full time employment to find a job as the job bridge / internship schemes are taking up many of the positions that would previously have been real jobs.

clau22 · 11-06-2013 10:36PM

Job Bridge get me outta here!!!!

Someone please help a damsel in distress!! I am in my 'Internship' the last 4 months and I absolutely HATE it!!! I am on the countdown to November (if I can stick it out that long!!).
If I leave in the morning would that affect my Social Welfare payments?
Is doung personal errands for my boss acceptable? Picking up her prescriptions, lodging cheques for her mortgage, even filling out her driving license form???!!!
The job was advertised as Office Administrator which I'm about 5% doing!!
Any help/tips/advice etc.
A very destressed, deflated intern!! :-( :-O

Crazyteacher · 11-06-2013 10:43PM

You don't have to stay, you have every right to quit. Contact your social welfare for info on getting out.

MikeD22 · 11-06-2013 10:46PM

I've a feeling this job bridge is the next big government scheme to be blown wide open and expose the scammers

zenno · 11-06-2013 10:52PM

@ clau22

Report your problem to FAS and the social welfare and demand an investigation if you're rights have been violated or also, if they are forcing you to do things that are not originally in your job description.

Mollywolly · 11-06-2013 11:02PM

MikeD22 wrote: »

I've a feeling this job bridge is the next big government scheme to be blown wide open and expose the scammers

Let's hope so. Too many employers are abusing the scheme and I'm surprised there hasn't been an investigation already.

clau22 · 11-06-2013 11:04PM

Thanks guys!
I had started an internship at the end of January and stuck it for a week, again wasn't what job had been advertised for, hardly anyone spoke to me, and I'd an hours commute, so wasn't paying my petrol. Within a week I applied for my current internship. The week I wsx at my previous internship wasn't made official - so they got a free week out of me! The social knew of this, so if I leave this they will think I'm not willing to work and this internship is only a 10 min drive!

zenno · 11-06-2013 11:22PM

Mollywolly wrote: »

Let's hope so. Too many employers are abusing the scheme and I'm surprised there hasn't been an investigation already.

There has already been an investigation and more pending... http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/employment/department-investigates-over-200-complaints-into-conduct-of-jobbridge-firms-1.1351863

ShelTomato · 11-06-2013 11:37PM

Sorry I don't know what the rules are for posting up links but there's a whole website dedicated to this it's called scambridge.ie, it's very helpful, a lot of stories similar to yours clau22, it's a disgrace that so many companies get away with it! It seems like FAS don't even bother to ensure that the interns are being trained adequately, or offer any support to them if they want to complain.

Mollywolly · 11-06-2013 11:38PM

zenno wrote: »

There has already been an investigation and more pending... http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/employment/department-investigates-over-200-complaints-into-conduct-of-jobbridge-firms-1.1351863

Thanks for that. Must have missed that one

Jimmy Garlic · 12-06-2013 01:52AM

Rainbow_Bright wrote: »

job bridge / internship schemes are taking up many of the positions that would previously have been real jobs.

It is also destroying real jobs. People are getting sacked so lowlife employers can take on someone and exploit them via slave bridge. Most of them have no intention of keeping the people they take on via slave bridge, that would mean they have to pay them a wage.

clau22 · 12-06-2013 08:27AM

@ShelTomato
Yes, I have been on the Scam Bridge site and have added a few stories, yes very similar to my story.
The Social are quick to send out letters re Fas courses etc I even got a letter aboyt whilst in this internship, what a disgrace yet they can't send someone out to assess the organisation host and the intern.
It's so degrading and soul destroying the whole darn thung!!! >:(

SCOOP 64 · 12-06-2013 10:33AM

I think if the unemployed keep taking up jobbridge schemes then no way is the government going to end it, you are off the live register for 9 months but still getting you full dole, the unemployment figures look better.

cloudatlas · 12-06-2013 12:55PM

Although I think the genesis of an idea for something like jobbridge is good ultimately I feel that the scheme is a failure.

I've noticed a few things in my career area. Big organisations who didn't hire interns in the good times are now using jobbridge. On some job descriptions the tasks are non essential back room jobs . The worker is tying up a few loose ends that the permanent staff members don't want to do. This is a disgrace.

If the job bridge pay matches your original pay grade then surely there is no advantage and they should give you a proper position. If your jobbridge pay is significantly lower in cases like I.T. jobs then it is equally scandalous and exploitative. If you are receiving low pay for a low skilled job and you don't receive a position afterwards that to me is particularly unjust.

Jobbridge employers do not have to train you, they don't have to employ you afterwards and they can wait a short period of time to get another skivvy.

bijou · 12-06-2013 12:59PM

allibastor wrote: »

Just a quick one to you all, Where do you find out the guidlines for what a job bridge job should contain. Found this one in my own back garden of portloaise.
What a joke.

http://jobseeker.fas.ie/Default.aspx?q=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

Out of interest, what "job" was it for?? The link doesn't work now.

clau22 · 12-06-2013 02:05PM

The whole idea of Job Bridge is to be mentored, so someone should be training you and providing the necessary skills and support. I know not all internships can provide jobs after the internship has ended, but they are at least supposed to refer you to another organisation to secure a permanent job

ShelTomato · 12-06-2013 03:12PM

bijou wrote: »

Out of interest, what "job" was it for?? The link doesn't work now.

Think it was working behind a bar

Woofstuff · 12-06-2013 03:48PM

bijou wrote: »

Out of interest, what "job" was it for?? The link doesn't work now.

ShelTomato wrote: »

Think it was working behind a bar

It was basically a bar managers job, stock taking, orders, making sure the bar makes a profit ... this is the kind of thing I remember seeing on the Job Spec.

Woofstuff · 12-06-2013 03:59PM

Its such a scam.

I am due to Graduate at Christmas,

I would rather up sticks and go Work in the UK and get paid for my problem rather than let companies take advantage of me with this Scam.

allibastor · 14-06-2013 09:26AM

I really do thaink that for minimum wage unskilled jobs the DSP and Job Bridge should not be allowed to take in candidates or have employers post responses for it.

For the crack I applied for the job which i started the post about. was told that it will invlove work on wednesday to sunday from about 21:00 until clsoing time, but that over time might be needed to cope with unusual business hours.

Though, A polo shirt will be provided for my uniform, so not all bad.

starlit · 14-06-2013 01:14PM

clau22 wrote: »

The whole idea of Job Bridge is to be mentored, so someone should be training you and providing the necessary skills and support. I know not all internships can provide jobs after the internship has ended, but they are at least supposed to refer you to another organisation to secure a permanent job

I've never known them to refer you on to another organisation I think is it not up to the candidate to decide who they want to apply for next?

Mrs OBumble · 14-06-2013 01:36PM

clau22 wrote: »

Is doung personal errands for my boss acceptable? Picking up her prescriptions, lodging cheques for her mortgage, even filling out her driving license form???!!!

The job was advertised as Office Administrator which I'm about 5% doing!!

Those tasks all sound like typical Office Administrator takss to me, especially in a small company where there may be few boundaries between the owners private and corporate life.

What did you expect to be doing?

More importantly, have you been applying for other jobs? Getting real job is the best way to leave an intership.

clau22 wrote: »

The whole idea of Job Bridge is to be mentored, so someone should be training you and providing the necessary skills and support. I know not all internships can provide jobs after the internship has ended, but they are at least supposed to refer you to another organisation to secure a permanent job

Not quite.

There is supposed to be mentoring.

But not training (the idea of the scheme is that it's for people who are already trained, but not expereinces).

And not referrals. They may act as a referee, and the idea is that by being in the workplace you make contacts and find out about job sources. But they don't have to formally refer you.

I'm with ye all that there are many scams. But there are some non-scams too, and it's worth remembering that. I know a few people who did get a career start with the scheme.

clau22 · 17-06-2013 05:58PM

Ok Mrs OBumble the internship is designed for recent graduates and also people who are long-term unemployed. On the job description they do state formal/informal training. You are supposedly assigned to a mentor in whatever department. If my boss isn't there all the time and there is hardly any work to do, shouldn't they opt out of jobbridge? Sure why would you when you've someone in doing menial tasks?!!
Well I didn't sign up to go around doing personal errands when the job I applied for stipulated administration - so I assumed office work!
And yes I am looking for work not that easy either when you're in there 5 days a week

ABajaninCork · 17-06-2013 06:24PM

clau22 wrote: »

Job Bridge get me outta here!!!!

Someone please help a damsel in distress!! I am in my 'Internship' the last 4 months and I absolutely HATE it!!! I am on the countdown to November (if I can stick it out that long!!).
If I leave in the morning would that affect my Social Welfare payments?
Is doung personal errands for my boss acceptable? Picking up her prescriptions, lodging cheques for her mortgage, even filling out her driving license form???!!!
The job was advertised as Office Administrator which I'm about 5% doing!!
Any help/tips/advice etc.
A very destressed, deflated intern!! :-( :-O

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Those tasks all sound like typical Office Administrator takss to me, especially in a small company where there may be few boundaries between the owners private and corporate life.

What did you expect to be doing?

More importantly, have you been applying for other jobs? Getting real job is the best way to leave an intership.

Sorry, but I can't agree with this. This is unprofessional behaviour by the owner IMO. Why on earth would you allow strangers to see details of your personal finances? How did s/he apply for driving licences and pay their mortgage BEFORE the intern came along? Has the owner never heard of internet and phone banking?? Seriously??? Work and personal boundaries should be kept separate. It doesn't matter what size the business is. Sounds to me as though the intern is being taken advantage of.

What kind of mentoring was offered clau22?

Job Bridge joke

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