Boards.ie uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Click here to find out more x
Post Reply  
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
15-03-2013, 13:16   #1
fathersymes
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Dublin
Posts: 542
New Sauer 101 and Mauser M12

These new budget (for Sauer & Mauser!) rifles were both launched at IWA last week and will be priced around the Sako 85 level(1,500-2,000)

What do people think, there are no reviews yet but initial reports are that the Sauer looks and feel cheap, not up to the usual standard of finish.

I would personally reckon that if one is spending money in that region, a Sako 85 is the obvious choice for build quality and out of the box accuracy.

http://us.mauser-m12.com/

http://2.sauer.de/en/weapons/s-101.html

Last edited by fathersymes; 15-03-2013 at 13:18. Reason: Oops posted in wrong place, can a mod move it, thanks.
fathersymes is offline  
Advertisement
15-03-2013, 13:54   #2
It wasn't me!
Moderator
 
It wasn't me!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: The wrong end of nowhere
Posts: 12,492
I reckon you're not wrong there! If it were in the 1200 range, either would look pretty decent (though the stock on the Sauer doesn't look remotely comfortable) but when they're that much closer to the flagship models, and as you say, in the same ballpark as the Sako? No, these should ideally be Tikka competitors, and 1500+ puts them way out of that game.
It wasn't me! is offline  
15-03-2013, 14:16   #3
fathersymes
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Dublin
Posts: 542
Yes that's what I'm saying and I wouldn't have the confidence which one would have in Tikka accuracy.
fathersymes is offline  
15-03-2013, 14:29   #4
It wasn't me!
Moderator
 
It wasn't me!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: The wrong end of nowhere
Posts: 12,492
Even if it were as accurate, it's heavier and more expensive, and looks visibly well off the standard of the 202 in the case of the Sauer. The Mauser just looks like a slightly less finished version of the M03, which is fine and fair enough there, and might actually represent comparatively good value, but again, when you've got the Tikka there too, which will be lighter and very accurate, as well as cheaper, it's again hard to justify.
It wasn't me! is offline  
15-03-2013, 15:19   #5
TriggerPL
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,799
The mauser seems to be a no frills mo3 with out the safety system or interchangeable barrels system , but over all looks like a fine hunting rifle and def something to think about if ya were considering a sako , the 101 on the other hand seams to punching above it weight price wise you would pic up a 202 for a few quid more , that goes for the m12 too ! I think if there 1500 - 2000 and you can pic up a basic timber or syn mo3 for 2250 I'd spend the extra cash
TriggerPL is offline  
Advertisement
15-03-2013, 17:41   #6
4200fps
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Leitrim
Posts: 1,196
I picked up a friends Sauer 202. Lovely rifle, slick bolt like the Tikkas and Sako's. I seen groups a different Sauer 202 done with 6.5x55 Lapua soft point and hollow point at 150 meters. 3/4 inch grouping all day which is top class. If i'd a choice i'd still stay with the Sako or Tikka. Sauer can't cycle as quick as you have to push down quite hard on the bolt to lock it into position even with no ammunition its very stiff but to pull back and forward its very smooth. Tikka and sako bolts cycle with very little effort and are very smooth too. Closest Sauer dealer to us I think is up the North at the minute. Mausers I know nothing about never took much notice on them

Last edited by 4200fps; 15-03-2013 at 17:45.
4200fps is offline  
15-03-2013, 17:46   #7
TriggerPL
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,799
Mauser have one of the best and smoothest action in the world from a factory gun !
TriggerPL is offline  
15-03-2013, 20:20   #8
ejg
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Cork
Posts: 586
I had a look at both rifles last weekend.
Both are built on the same new action with a few minor differences.
Mauser has a safety that can be heard from a mile. The Sauer safety is a bit quieter.
Biggest handycap is that the barrels are sweated in. If one has a duff barrel...that's it.
For that reason I would not want one even if the price were much lower.
Handling and weight was quite nice. Pity about the barrel....there's always something.
edi
ejg is offline  
15-03-2013, 20:24   #9
TriggerPL
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,799
Quote:
Originally Posted by ejg View Post
I had a look at both rifles last weekend.
Both are built on the same new action with a few minor differences.
Mauser has a safety that can be heard from a mile. The Sauer safety is a bit quieter.
Biggest handycap is that the barrels are sweated in. If one has a duff barrel...that's it.
For that reason I would not want one even if the price were much lower.
Handling and weight was quite nice. Pity about the barrel....there's always something.
edi
Nice to hear from someone that has seen them
TriggerPL is offline  
Thanks from:
Advertisement
15-03-2013, 20:26   #10
silverfox1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: kilkenny
Posts: 231
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4200fps View Post
Closest Sauer dealer to us I think is up the North at the minute. Mausers I know nothing about never took much notice on them
Griffin hawe in athy used to be a sauer dealer and still is as far as I know.
silverfox1 is offline  
Thanks from:
15-03-2013, 21:04   #11
rowa
Closed Account
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,257
you must all be working for nama to be able to afford 2k rifles to drag through ditches and across hillsides just to shoot deer. half the gamekeepers inn scotland use cz/brno's and they knock more deer then all of us on here combined.
rowa is offline  
15-03-2013, 21:09   #12
TriggerPL
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,799
Quote:
Originally Posted by rowa View Post
you must all be working for nama to be able to afford 2k rifles to drag through ditches and across hillsides just to shoot deer. half the gamekeepers inn scotland use cz/brno's and they knock more deer then all of us on here combined.
Ah lad where you living ! I shoot my deer from the balcony of my house that I took a 500000 mortgage out for , while I'm waiting for my Landrover to be warmed up , and breakfast to be served on a silver platter !

, were just making the case that these are ment to be competition for sako and tikka
Guns that are affordable
TriggerPL is offline  
15-03-2013, 21:20   #13
rowa
Closed Account
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,257
Quote:
Originally Posted by TriggerPL View Post
Ah lad where you living ! I shoot my deer from the balcony of my house that I took a 500000 mortgage out for , while I'm waiting for my Landrover to be warmed up , and breakfast to be served on a silver platter !

, were just making the case that these are ment to be competition for sako and tikka
Guns that are affordable
i were taking the mickey ,

http://youtu.be/DAtSw3daGoo
rowa is offline  
15-03-2013, 21:23   #14
TriggerPL
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,799
Quote:
Originally Posted by rowa View Post

i were taking the mickey ,

http://youtu.be/DAtSw3daGoo
Haha very gud sure I know well !
TriggerPL is offline  
15-03-2013, 23:51   #15
Cupid__Stunt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 69
I handled both at IWA last week and was quite impressed with the Mauser, handles well and had a really nice stock and trigger. The sauer was disappointing and didn't have the same classy feel as other sauers..
Cupid__Stunt is offline  
Post Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Remove Text Formatting
Bold
Italic
Underline

Insert Image
Wrap [QUOTE] tags around selected text
 
Decrease Size
Increase Size
Please sign up or log in to join the discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



Share Tweet