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Coal / solid state fuel bargains

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    #122
    JTPB
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭JTPB


    jameshayes wrote: »
    The logs in Aldi are 35% water content. Wasted my money buying a bag of them


    CottonMouth wrote: »
    Me too, between 35% & 40% water content so stuck with two useless bags of them.
    I cut trees a few months ago which already have a lower reading than that.

    Aldi logs to be avoided.

    Me too.
    Bought these "Alio" wooden logs in Aldi in Parnell Street, Dublin 1. They simply would not light, with firelighters, even using those peat "instant fire" type firelogs as firelighters. They felt damp to the touch, as if they had been out in a long downpour a week previously.


    http://www.aldi.ie/ie/html/offers/special_buys3_24290.htm

    seems to be a bad deal, hopefully they will have better wooden logs next year.

    (BTW, their Alio coal fire packs, same brand, seemed fine. They were in a waterproof bag, though).


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    #123
    jameshayes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    CottonMouth wrote: »
    Me too, between 35% & 40% water content so stuck with two useless bags of them.
    I cut trees a few months ago which already have a lower reading than that.

    Aldi logs to be avoided.

    Yeah same as me, cut down 2 trees a month ago and the logs from that are in and around 30% ffs!


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    #124
    finnharpsboy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    ABS Building Supplies Bluebell selling 40kg bag black diamond smokeless coal for 13.50 a bag

    seen their add here http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/heating/4173944


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    #125
    micky mouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 278 ✭✭micky mouse


    Can this be used in an open fire and does there be much embers left after it . How does it compare with polish coal


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    #126
    Aenaes
    Registered Users Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Aenaes


    finnharpsboy wrote: »
    ABS Building Supplies Bluebell selling 40kg bag black diamond smokeless coal for 13.50 a bag

    seen their add here http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/heating/4173944

    People might want to note that these are nuggets/coal briquettes and not regular smokeless coal. Nuggets are cheaper but 13.50 does seem a good price, especially for Dublin.
    micky mouse wrote: »
    Can this be used in an open fire and does there be much embers left after it . How does it compare with polish coal

    "Ecobrite is a compact, slow burning, smokeless fuel for cookers, stoves and room heaters." That's taken from Arigna Fuels website. I've never heard of anyone using it an open fire and I doubt it would burn well.


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    #127
    paddyp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭paddyp


    micky mouse wrote: »
    Can this be used in an open fire and does there be much embers left after it . How does it compare with polish coal

    Cosyglo is the open fire version of ecobrite.


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    #128
    paddyp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭paddyp


    finnharpsboy wrote: »
    ABS Building Supplies Bluebell selling 40kg bag black diamond smokeless coal for 13.50 a bag

    seen their add here http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/heating/4173944

    Union nuggets are compressed lignite around the same energy as peat briquettes 19MJ/kg and lots of ash.

    So that 13.50 is really about 20.00 compared with quality coal.


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    #129
    Daisy M
    Registered Users Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Daisy M


    micky mouse wrote: »
    Can this be used in an open fire and does there be much embers left after it . How does it compare with polish coal

    It also says on the arigna site that it can be used in open fires but may not burn down completely. After a bit of experimenting we now start the fire with cozyglow and top it up with ecobrite this heats the backboiler much better than just cozyglow or eco brite on its own. We throw on a few briquettes towards the end of the night to burn away all the bits that would otherwise be left behind from the ecobrite.
    I prefer this to polish coal, its a cleaner fuel and if you heap it up it burns for ages, doesnt spit or send huge flames up the chimney.
    Last night put on fire at 7 and by 9, 8 rads, 3 of which are doubles, were pretty warm.


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    #130
    fulhamfan
    Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭fulhamfan


    Hi,
    Getting fuel at decent price in Dublin is a pain. Found
    http://kiltimonecofuels.com/products.html and ordered 5 x 1 ton logs in conjunction with my neighbor. Cost 62 per ton, delivery free and some eco logs and kindling thrown in. Logs dry as anything, great size as neither too big nor too small and it is 110 cheaper per ton than ones I saw locally in a mulch centre. Delivery free if u order over 100 euro and their service and fuel excellent:-))


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    #131
    paddyp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭paddyp


    fulhamfan wrote: »
    Hi,
    Getting fuel at decent price in Dublin is a pain. Found
    http://kiltimonecofuels.com/products.html and ordered 5 x 1 ton logs in conjunction with my neighbor. Cost 62 per ton, delivery free and some eco logs and kindling thrown in. Logs dry as anything, great size as neither too big nor too small and it is 110 cheaper per ton than ones I saw locally in a mulch centre. Delivery free if u order over 100 euro and their service and fuel excellent:-))

    Ton bag = 1m3 bag.
    1m3 bulk chopped logs on the other hand is more like 0.5m3 of timber.
    Which would be 250kg - 350kg depending on the type of wood - willow to oak.
    Air dried thats about 16MJ/kg.
    Thats equal to 142kg - 200kg of quality polish coal 4-5 bags.

    1m3 of stacked chopped logs is as much as 0.8m3 of timber.
    Stacked logs would be equal to 227kg to 320kg or 6-8 bags of polish coal.

    Explains the variance in price in most of these places.

    Actually hadn't taken into account the spruces and cedar which are as little as little as 390kg/m3.


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    #132
    horse7
    Registered Users Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭horse7


    W123-80's wrote: »
    The Buy Lo store in the retail park on the Naas Road are selling 40kg bags of Bord Na Mona Coal for €11.99 per bag. (Same retail Park that has Homebase)

    I just bought 2 bags. Can't comment on the quality yet, only after putting on a fire.!
    They also had 40kg Black Diamond coal at €16.99, so not sure what the difference in quality is.
    is that the royal liver centre store


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    #133
    horse7
    Registered Users Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭horse7


    horse7 wrote: »
    how much is the 40kg coal in the hardware in dunboyne?
    checked it out,and its 15.50 a 40 kg bag diamond label


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    #134
    finnharpsboy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    €11.99 a bag in buy lo? might have to look into that... used the €13.50 bags i got in ABS Building Supplies and in fairness i couldnt complain at all got another 6 today


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    #135
    horse7
    Registered Users Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭horse7


    paddy147 wrote: »
    14 euro 50 cents for a 40kg bag of Polish Premium in most of the builders providers.;):)
    as in say chadwicks glasnevin, could you name some near blanchardstown.


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    #136
    horse7
    Registered Users Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭horse7


    Blured wrote: »
    Friend of mine works there, it's 15.50 for 40kgs of the good Bord Na Mona stuff and if you buy 5 bags you get a 40kg slack free with it
    you sure about the free bag, theres nothing on the price board outside.


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    #137
    paddy147
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    horse7 wrote: »
    as in say chadwicks glasnevin, could you name some near blanchardstown.


    Any Chadwicks or Heiton Buckleys builders providers.:)


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    #138
    horse7
    Registered Users Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭horse7


    buy low is out of stock this morning.


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    #139
    mickydcork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭mickydcork


    fulhamfan wrote: »
    Hi,
    Getting fuel at decent price in Dublin is a pain. Found
    http://kiltimonecofuels.com/products.html and ordered 5 x 1 ton logs in conjunction with my neighbor. Cost 62 per ton, delivery free and some eco logs and kindling thrown in. Logs dry as anything, great size as neither too big nor too small and it is 110 cheaper per ton than ones I saw locally in a mulch centre. Delivery free if u order over 100 euro and their service and fuel excellent:-))

    Are these hardwood logs?


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    #140
    jameshayes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    jameshayes wrote: »
    The logs in Aldi are 35% water content. Wasted my money buying a bag of them

    Just checked the logs in Lidl they are selling - 30% content - also useless.


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    #141
    finnharpsboy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    Well has anyone else tried out the €13.50 coal from that place in bluebell?


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    #142
    horse7
    Registered Users Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭horse7


    buy low no longer selling the bnm coal(11.99) 40kg bags.


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    #143
    Vince1974
    Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Vince1974


    Any good solid fuel deals inc delivery for Galway?


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    #144
    karltimber
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 1,919 Mod ✭✭✭✭karltimber


    mickydcork wrote: »
    Are these hardwood logs?

    just onto Kiltimon - the e70 per ton price is for dried softwood

    it's an extra e20 per ton for kiln dried hard wood.
    for me - 4 ton of hard wood for e350 delivered in leinster with extras too.

    k


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    #145
    SnowDrifts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭SnowDrifts


    karltimber wrote: »
    just onto Kiltimon - the e70 per ton price is for dried softwood

    it's an extra e20 per ton for kiln dried hard wood.
    for me - 4 ton of hard wood for e350 delivered in leinster with extras too.

    k

    €90 per tonne BAG is certainly not a bargain alert.

    Also - A tonne bag is not = tonne of logs.


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    #146
    paddy147
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    SnowDrifts wrote: »
    €90 per tonne BAG is certainly not a bargain alert.

    Also - A tonne bag is not = tonne of logs.


    +1


    and


    +1


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    #147
    cgc5483
    Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭cgc5483


    SnowDrifts wrote: »
    €90 per tonne BAG is certainly not a bargain alert.

    Also - A tonne bag is not = tonne of logs.

    Just interested by what you mean by which. It's not a tonne weight is it? What would be a good price for kiln dried hard woods?


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    #148
    SnowDrifts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭SnowDrifts


    cgc5483 wrote: »
    Just interested by what you mean by which. It's not a tonne weight is it? What would be a good price for kiln dried hard woods?

    First - "a tonne bag" is just the name put on the bag in which the logs are delivered in. The weight of the logs is not a tonne.

    Second - Don't waste your money on kiln dried logs.

    Third - Look to get well seasoned hard wood logs. That means, they must be let season for approx. 2 years (depending on the wood) after they have been cut. A good price for a "tonne bag" of the above, would be €50-60.

    *Edit* The reason I think kiln dried logs are a waste of money is because they burn too quickly and your paying an extra premium for this privilege. Also, I have found that seasoned logs with a moisture content of 20% tends to be the perfect number.


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    #149
    Vince1974
    Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Vince1974


    I have been keeping my eye on this thread for a couple of days and haven't seen even one usable bargain alert... Winter is approaching and I love a good (bargain) hardwood fire!


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    #150
    finnharpsboy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    surely €13.50 for a 40kg bag of coal is a usable bargain vince, no?


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    #151
    Vince1974
    Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Vince1974


    It would be if you're looking for coal.

    I prefer the way wood burns and the way it sounds when it does.


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