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  • 02-07-2012 9:06pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Just 25 days to go until the Opening Ceremony of the London Olympic Games. Time we had a thread to see us right through the Olympics where we can discuss all sorts of Olympic related news items. Here we can post news articles, discuss breaking stories and have a discussion on all things Olympics.

    To get us started I'll post an article on 2 legends of the last edition of the Games. Firstly, the one and only Michael Phelps. He can't replicate the 8 golds in Beijing after dropping the 200m freestyle but repeating his success of Beijing 4 years ago was never on the cards. Still though he is attempting to win a whopping 7 golds this time. He's coming into form nicely but I still think Ryan Lochte might deny him gold in one or two races. I can see him winning all 7 medals though and many of them gold.


    http://www.newsday.com/sports/olympics/michael-phelps-drops-200-free-bid-for-8-golds-1.3818231


    Secondly, Usain Bolt who is aiming to win 4 golds in London (100m, 200m, 4x100m and 4x400m) has been beaten in both individual sprints at the Jamaican trials. Arch-rival and training partner Yohan Blake took both race victories and has set up what could be an epic showdown in London. Blake is world champion at 100m and was marginally behind Bolt's 200m world record last season. Bolt will have his hands full retaining his 100m and 200m Olympic titles but he is such a superstar and who would ever dare write him off? One thing is for sure is that Jamaica are red-hot favourites to win the sprint relay but I don't think Bolt will be enjoying much success in the Jamaican 4x400m event. Jamaica aren't really gold medal contenders in that event but they should be up there with some of the leading teams.

    http://wcfcourier.com/sports/olympics/blake-wins-jamaican-goes--for--against-bolt/article_ef95c66c-c3f0-11e1-bcc1-0019bb2963f4.html


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,194 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    I'm kind of gutted Phelps is on track to smash Latynina's record though he is of course a phenomenal athlete. Fun fact- Larisa Latynina, former artistic gymnast for the Soviet Union, competed in the 1958 World Championships and won 5 out of 6 events...while pregnant!

    The USA artistic gymnastic teams have been named after Trials at the weekend. Definitely one of the most popular spectator sports, USA's teams are especially interesting because they are so strong and have such depth of talent. The women's team have higher hopes of gold than the men, who will be challenged fiercely by Japan in particular. The WAG team are on track for gold, barring major catastrophe. Crucially they have 4 gymnasts competing an extremely difficult and valuable vault, (3 up, 3 count in team finals) China has one, Russia currently have none but likely to throw two messy ones, Romania unknown. They also have a huge chance of their two all-around competitors medalling due to their enormous difficulty, and are definite to take a gold in one apparatus- vault. The other three apparatus are much less certain, but another medal or two is certainly possible there.

    Trials were not without drama, returning Olympian Alicia Sacramone failed to even make alternate as she only competed two events, ones on which USA needed no help although she had really good routines with no mistakes. Nastia Liukin, the 2008 AA champion, also failed but that was not suprising as she has been falling and having huge errors on bars all year, her 'ticket to London'. Bridget Sloan, another returnee was injured in warm-ups on the first day and did not compete. Chellsie Memmel did not advance to Trials or even Nationals, extremely controversially as Liukin did after abysmal performances. Unlike Liukin, Memmel and Sacramone have had extremely dissapointing previous Olympic experiences.The gymnast who finished fourth all-around, Elizabeth Price, did not make the team as other gymnasts who finished lower than her add more tenths than her on her events in a team situation. Rebecca Bross, a lock for this team in 2010, fell three times on bars and had huge errors. She blew her kneecap last year and had a difficult recovery but was consistently nailing her bars. Scoring was all over the place, top name gymnasts were gifted scores well above what they can expect in London. This year the team has been cut to 5, which is a disaster for USA as they are so deep, but not so much for other countries. This is the second cut in recent quads, it was 7 in 1996- hence the Mag 7. Numerous injuries this year, the open-ended scoring system places huge pressure to increase difficulty, at the cost of ACL's and other serious injuries. Russia are down one, China one, France and Canada two and Belgium one. And there is still nearly a month left, including a very intensive training camp for the USA teams which traditionally sees more than one injury. McKayla Maroney, the vault EF gold certainty, has already beaten the odds, she suffered concussion less than three weeks ago and lost a whole week of training.

    The women's team is: Jordyn Wieber, Gabby Douglas, Aly Raisman, Kyla Ross and McKayla Maroney. Alt: Anna Li, Sarah Finnegan, Elizabeth Price.
    The men's team is: Danell Lleyva, John Orozco, Sam Mikulak, Jake Dalton and Jonathan Horton. Alt: Chris Brooks, Steven Legendre and Alex Naddour.

    In a sport where returning Olympians are still quite uncommon to find, and those who have competed/will compete in 3 Olympics are even rarer and can be counted on one hand (5), Oksana Chusovitina of Germany will compete in her SIXTH Olympics. At the age of 37 she still shows great power and form and won another medal on the world stage last year, and a Europeans medal this year, both on the vault- the most wearing apparatus by far. She began competing as a senior elite in 1988, eight years before most of the girls she is up against were even born. She competed for the Soviet Union, Uzbekistan after the break-up and now Germany, where she moved to in order to access better treatment for her son who had cancer but is now fully recovered. She has said she wants to return to coaching the Uzbek team after this Olympics and therefore formally retire, but she said that after Beijing too! Beth tweddle, a lock for the British team who will be named tomorrow, will compete in her third Olympics. The others were Svetlana Khorkina of Russia- who is among the very few to be known outside of the gymnastics world, (1996, 2000 and 2004) Dominique Dawes of USA (1992, 1996 and 2000), Daiane Dos Santos of Brazil (2004, 2008 and 2012) and Svetlana Boguinskaya of Soviet Union/Belarus (1988, 1992 and 1996). All of whom noticeably deteriorated by the time of their third Olympics. This is what makes Chuso so remarkable- we won't see the likes of her again! Tweddle only competes two out of four events so it's easier for her, but it is worth noting her bars routine is more difficult EVERY year and has one of the highest start values we will see in London. Daiane still competes extremely high difficulty on floor, but her form has suffered too- she's 29!


  • Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Truman Burbank


    Interesting selection choice for Team GB in the Women's 800m, sending a B-standard athlete (whom they expect to peak), when they have 4 with an A-standard (who they clearly think have had their peak). See Steve Cram's analysis on your left. Surely Patsy and Co. will be taking note..........

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18685730


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    Interesting selection choice for Team GB in the Women's 800m, sending a B-standard athlete (whom they expect to peak), when they have 4 with an A-standard (who they clearly think have had their peak). See Steve Cram's analysis on your left. Surely Patsy and Co. will be taking note..........

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18685730


    Very interesting selection indeed but a very fair selection...although it is very unfortunate for those with the A-standard not to be chosen. But it was a bizarre situation the G.B. selectors were left with and how could you say to Lynsey Sharp, "you beat all those girls fair and square at the British trials and again at the Euros en route to claiming a silver medal but we've decided to choose 3 other British 800m runners ahead of you for London".
    That's the situation that was presented to the selectors and fair play to them for taking the courage to select Sharp despite the expected backlash that will follow. She is the best of the British at this moment in time and she proved herself again at the Euros with silver so on that form she deserves her place at the Olympics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Truman Burbank


    Dan man wrote: »
    Very interesting selection indeed but a very fair selection...although it is very unfortunate for those with the A-standard not to be chosen. But it was a bizarre situation the G.B. selectors were left with and how could you say to Lynsey Sharp, "you beat all those girls fair and square at the British trials and again at the Euros en route to claiming a silver medal but we've decided to choose 3 other British 800m runners ahead of you for London".
    That's the situation that was presented to the selectors and fair play to them for taking the courage to select Sharp despite the expected backlash that will follow. She is the best of the British at this moment in time and she proved herself again at the Euros with silver so on that form she deserves her place at the Olympics.

    True. If she had had the A (hair-splittingly close), or if The Unchosen Few all had the B, they would probably (in my selectors mind) have opted for her, Meadows and Okoro. Why not? There's nothing to lose (per se), and it's in the spirit of The Olympics to have qualified athletes compete. It wasn't all about 'The Bottom Line' in 776BC!
    More than a Game
    The prideful Greeks started the Olympics because of their belief in the glory of competition and to honor the gods with their ability. The Olympics were much more than a game, they gave competitors a chance at immortality. Competitors were seen as heroes who, in their victories, received something greater than money or prizes -- honor. The Ancient Greek Olympics merged two things that the Greeks held sacred, religion and the desire for greatness.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    Oscar Pistorious the South African double amputee 400m runner (also known as Blade Runner) is set to make history by becoming the first athlete to compete at both the Olympic and Paralympic Games in the same year. He has been named in the South African 4x400m relay squad for London:

    http://news.sky.com/story/956036/blade-runner-selected-for-london-olympics

    Ireland's own Jason Smyth who is double Paralympic champion over 100m and 200m from Beijing also has his eyes set on the same record. He has the B-standard for 100m and will defend his Paralympic titles in London. If the OCI decide to send him to the Olympics with the B-standard then he too will go into the record books as the first to compete in both sporting events in the same year.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jul/04/london-olympics-2012-team-gb-medals?newsfeed=true

    Team G.B. have targeted 48 medals and 4th place in the medals table for London 2012. I think the 48 medal aim will be achieved with ease....somewhere near the 60+ medals mark is definitely attainable and with in excess of 20+ golds they should finish at least 4th in the table, and at a stretch they could surpass Russia. Now G.B. would need to have an outstanding Games and Russia have a bad return by their standards for this to happen but a few golds either way could decide it. U.S.A. and China will likely do battle for top spot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭Skid


    Interesting interview with Katie Taylor on the NBC website (it's a few weeks only, I just read it)

    http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-blogs/boxing/katie-taylor-set-to-become-a-household-name.html

    The title of the article says it all - She really could be one of the faces of London 2012. NBC will certainly be watching her (and Queen Underwood's) progress.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭Skid


    This looks like an interesting series starting on Monday (tomorrow) on BBC2

    BBC2 Monday 7pm

    Faster, Higher, Stronger
    Season 1 Episode 1 of 4
    Stories of the Olympic Games - 100 metres New series. The history of the Olympic Games, focusing on different events and the athletes who have pushed performance to the limit in their pursuit of gold. The first of four programmes being shown on consecutive nights examines the 100m final, and features Jim Hines, the first to run the race in less than 10 seconds in 1968, Carl Lewis, the best finisher of them all, and Usain Bolt, whose massive stride allows him to virtually eat up the track. Britain's Alan Wells also recalls the dip at the line that won him gold at Moscow in 1980, while archive footage, period reconstruction and special filming techniques provide an insight into the event

    http://www.tvnow.ie/detail.asp?id=128196548


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    How is this intended to differ from the Countdown thread?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,194 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    Skid wrote: »
    This looks like an interesting series starting on Monday (tomorrow) on BBC2

    BBC2 Monday 7pm

    Faster, Higher, Stronger
    Season 1 Episode 1 of 4
    Stories of the Olympic Games - 100 metres New series. The history of the Olympic Games, focusing on different events and the athletes who have pushed performance to the limit in their pursuit of gold. The first of four programmes being shown on consecutive nights examines the 100m final, and features Jim Hines, the first to run the race in less than 10 seconds in 1968, Carl Lewis, the best finisher of them all, and Usain Bolt, whose massive stride allows him to virtually eat up the track. Britain's Alan Wells also recalls the dip at the line that won him gold at Moscow in 1980, while archive footage, period reconstruction and special filming techniques provide an insight into the event

    http://www.tvnow.ie/detail.asp?id=128196548


    The second one was about gymnastics. It was great, and featured such high quality footage, and interviews with loads of big names. It did skip several decades though- could do with it itself being a series, ending was very rushed.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭_Bella_


    Could anyone explain to me the controversy over the Aaron Cook elections. Why wasn't he selected if he is currently ranked no.1 in the world?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    feargale wrote: »
    How is this intended to differ from the Countdown thread?

    This thread can be used to discuss all sorts of Olympic news, positive and negative. The countdown thread is a light-hearted thread and should be kept as such, getting us geared up for London in a positive mood.


  • Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Truman Burbank


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18806505

    See swimming! Looking forward to seeing Missy Franklin also, great performance in the recent US Trials.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,194 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    Hmm, can anyone find other inaccurate sports on that list? China are the nation to beat in gymnastics apparently..when the reality is, they are expected not to even medal in the team final. The nation to beat is the USA, China will come away with 1 medal- they came away with 5 and the team gold last time, they haven't a chance of repeating.


  • Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Truman Burbank




  • Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Truman Burbank


    Hmm, can anyone find other inaccurate sports on that list? China are the nation to beat in gymnastics apparently..when the reality is, they are expected not to even medal in the team final. The nation to beat is the USA, China will come away with 1 medal- they came away with 5 and the team gold last time, they haven't a chance of repeating.

    I agree there's high hopes for the US Team and Gabby Douglas in particular, following her performance at the US Trials. Would like to see Team GB's Beth Tweedle do well. Russia has some fine athletes, particular individual medal hopes, and Germany's Phillip Boy is one to watch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,194 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    I agree there's high hopes for the US Team and Gabby Douglas in particular, following her performance at the US Trials. Would like to see Team GB's Beth Tweedle do well. Russia has some fine athletes, particular individual medal hopes, and Germany's Phillip Boy is one to watch.

    If gabby hits certainly, but she's a bit of a headcase, jordyn could overtake her. Yes Beth tweddle deserves the bars gold but unfortunately she's up against two Russians with the same difficulty score as her, and they are cleaner. He kexin has the highest score, she won in Beijing but she's more inconsistent now. Viktoria komova of russia and Larisa iordache of Romania are huge threats for the aa. Russia now have 3 amanars so the gap USA have is way smaller.


  • Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Truman Burbank


    "I've been handed a piece of paper that if it's right will be the most dramatic story of these Olympics or any others." Finest Lynam moment? @BBCSport_Ollie 6 minutes ago


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    "I've been handed a piece of paper that if it's right will be the most dramatic story of these Olympics or any others." Finest Lynam moment? @BBCSport_Ollie 6 minutes ago


    That was the moment in Seoul 1988 when the Ben Johnson drug scandal began to unfold. Great line that by Des Lynam....legend of sports presenting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Truman Burbank


    Dan man wrote: »
    That was the moment in Seoul 1988 when the Ben Johnson drug scandal began to unfold. Great line that by Des Lynam....legend of sports presenting.

    That only clicked with me :eek:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,498 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Has Michelle Jenneke qualifed? More of this sort of thing at the games please



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Has Michelle Jenneke qualifed? More of this sort of thing at the games please

    Sorry, KevIrl, you'll have to wait until 2016, if you're not too old to care by then. However, if you cant wait, her club,Cherrybrook Athletics Club in NSW is open for online registration from early August. As well as 100 hurdles < PB 13.39 > she does lots of other events including long, high and triple jump and discus and shot put. I wonder what her warm-up routine for the shot put is. Does she use two of them? No wonder John Charles McQuaid was against women in athletics!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭Skid


    Anyone who has a Freesat box might find this useful. You can tune in additional channels to access more of the BBC's extra Olympic streams during The Games

    http://www.tvtrade.ie/blog/how-to-tune-in-the-bbc-london-olympic-2012-streams-on-a-free-to-air-receiver/
    The settings for the BBC Streams for the 2012 Olympics are shown below.
    High Definition BBC Olympic Streams Frequencies
    (Frequency, Polarity, Symbol Rate)
    11914 H 29500
    12129 V 29500
    12304 H 29500
    12402 v 29497
    12422 H 29500
    12441 V 29500
    Standard Definition BBC Olympic Streams Frequencies
    (Frequency, Polarity, Symbol Rate)
    11469 H 27500
    10876 V 22000
    10921 H 22000

    There are more details about how to tune in the Channels on that page, and on this Youtube link ...




  • Registered Users, Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Was looking for this!!

    24 channels of BBC olympic coverage = happy rebel girl :D


  • Registered Users, Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Katie Taylor will be the flag bearer at the opening ceremony - delighted for her tbh


  • Registered Users, Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    useful page for keeping track of the Irish athlete's schedule!

    http://www.olympicsport.ie/news/5802-irish-athletes-schedule-part-1.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    Greek triple jumper Paraskevi Papahristou has been thrown out of the Greek Olympic team after posting a racist comment on twitter:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/26/sports/olympics/twitter-comment-costs-greek-athlete-spot-in-olympics.html?_r=1

    Elsewhere, Moroccan middle-distance runner and fastest 1,500m runner in the world this year Mariam Selsouli has failed a doping test meaning that not only is she expelled from competing at the Olympics but will likely receive a life-time ban as it is her second offence. Good news I say!

    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=selsouli&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CA8QqQIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fsport%2F0%2Folympics%2F18985217&ei=aFcQUPmlHY2KhQfRt4HwCw&usg=AFQjCNESWbzdzZUqAZhmr8sw0MsZ-Exjzw


  • Registered Users, Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    meanwhile in Glasgow, the first major screw up of the games happened in the North Korea v Columbia womens soccer game. The flag of South Korea was mistakenly shown on the big screen alongside the N Korean team pictures, which resulted in the team walking off the pitch and the game being delayed by over an hour - game is now on

    Ayq5yXACEAAtskp.jpg:large


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    meanwhile in Glasgow, the first major screw up... The flag of South Korea
    I thought they had good schools in Scotland. North and South Korea meet next Wednesday. Is it a fair bet that the North's flag has been programmed in to match the South Korean players?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭buyer95


    Skid wrote: »
    Anyone who has a Freesat box might find this useful. You can tune in additional channels to access more of the BBC's extra Olympic streams during The Games

    http://www.tvtrade.ie/blog/how-to-tune-in-the-bbc-london-olympic-2012-streams-on-a-free-to-air-receiver/



    There are more details about how to tune in the Channels on that page, and on this Youtube link ...



    Will this work too with the skybox, through other channels, like how I watch ITV and Five?


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