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Chuck Stone · 24-06-2012, 00:21

What is the point in perma-banning people from forums and then allow them to return under a new name?

I think this shows up a fundamental weakness in the boards.ie ban system in that it allows the banned to assume a new identity and fool less aware people into entertaining their trolling.

This method of dealing with trolls is simply dishonest. Why not just give people recurring bans if you're not going to give the 'perma' part of bans any value?

**Insect Overlord** · 24-06-2012, 00:24

Who are you talking about? Posters who re-reg to get around bans do get perma-banned, once it's proven who they are. You should read the Prison forum more often. It's often as entertaining as it is informative.

Chuck Stone · 24-06-2012, 01:17

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Originally Posted by Insect Overlord

Who are you talking about?

I'm pretty sure I've called this person out on thread in AH so mods are well aware who it is.

Elmidena · 24-06-2012, 02:46

Instead of calling out suspicions on-thread like a game of "Guess Who?", why don't you report the user and type your suspicion? That way an admin will see it and can run all the checks if needs be, and then Gordon gets a new playmate if you're right! Mods can't read every post on every thread, especially not on a ridiculously busy forum like AH, so help them out a bit and you both win (and maybe the suspect re-reg will too if it turns out they aren't who they're accused of being)

Elmidena · 24-06-2012, 02:49

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Originally Posted by Insect Overlord

Who are you talking about? Posters who re-reg to get around bans do get perma-banned, once it's proven who they are. You should read the Prison forum more often. It's often as entertaining as it is informative.

I admit I get disappointed when I click in on it and it's just spambots

But can we, the plebs, elect Pighead as a prison mod

Sharpshooter · 24-06-2012, 04:06

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Originally Posted by Chuck Stone

I'm pretty sure I've called this person out on thread in AH so mods are well aware who it is.

Not always Chuck, we cannot read every thread and post in AHs.

Did you report the user as a re reg?

Overheal · 24-06-2012, 05:58

There is no earthly way I would expect even a dozen AH mods to read through every post of inane shyte that happens in AH. If there is one forum on this entire website where you really have to make use of the report button: THAT IS IT.

***BuffyBot*** · 24-06-2012, 16:16

I can tell you this much for sure - if there is sufficient evidence of a re-reg, they'll be banned. I speak as someone who banned enough of them in my Admin days.

However there isn't often sufficient hard evidence even when you know it's them, deep down. Sometimes you just have to wait it out until there is, or they trip themselves up or revert to their former behaviour patterns and get banned anyway. It's annoying but some will always through for whatever reason!

One or two have even come back as reformed, useful members of society

My name is URL · 03-07-2012, 20:38

Seriously, is there not enough evidence to suggest that the person the OP is referring to is a re-reg? I'm sure somebody must have reported a post of his by now.

KeithM89 · 03-07-2012, 20:40

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Originally Posted by My name is URL

Seriously, is there not enough evidence to suggest that the person the OP is referring to is a re-reg? I'm sure somebody must have reported a post of his by now.

If your referring to a certain poster beginning with the letter 'P', its still being looked at.

CodyJarrett · 04-07-2012, 00:40

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Originally Posted by KeithM89

If your referring to a certain poster beginning with the letter 'P', its still being looked at.

You leave Pighead alone.

KeithM89 · 04-07-2012, 00:44

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Originally Posted by whiplashed

You leave Pighead alone.

Oh id never ban Pighead

Also that other problem is now sorted.

*Micky Dolenz* · 05-07-2012, 23:27

Just to point out, don't have an attitude of "shur, I won't bother reporting it, someone else will"

Don't call out people as trolls/reregs on thread. It's clear flaming. Report the poster/post instead.

padd b1975 · 06-07-2012, 21:49

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Originally Posted by Elmidena

Instead of calling out suspicions on-thread like a game of "Guess Who?", why don't you report the user and type your suspicion? That way an admin will see it and can run all the checks if needs be, and then Gordon gets a new playmate if you're right! Mods can't read every post on every thread, especially not on a ridiculously busy forum like AH, so help them out a bit and you both win (and maybe the suspect re-reg will too if it turns out they aren't who they're accused of being)

What are the checks that Admin. run?

***Gordon*** · 06-07-2012, 22:16

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Originally Posted by padd b1975

What are the checks that Admin. run?

I personally run a μ-pet test, sometimes a β-than-u test, and rarely I'll lead a λ-slotter config in Prison.

24-06-2012, 00:21	#1
Chuck Stone Closed Account Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 12,561 Adverts \| Friends	Why perma-ban people and allow them to return? What is the point in perma-banning people from forums and then allow them to return under a new name? I think this shows up a fundamental weakness in the boards.ie ban system in that it allows the banned to assume a new identity and fool less aware people into entertaining their trolling. This method of dealing with trolls is simply dishonest. Why not just give people recurring bans if you're not going to give the 'perma' part of bans any value? Last edited by Chuck Stone; 24-06-2012 at 00:24.

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24-06-2012, 00:24	#2
Insect Overlord Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Limerick Posts: 17,327 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Gaeilge (Irish), Teach na nGealt	Who are you talking about? Posters who re-reg to get around bans do get perma-banned, once it's proven who they are. You should read the Prison forum more often. It's often as entertaining as it is informative.

24-06-2012, 02:46	#4
Elmidena Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,793 Adverts \| Friends	Instead of calling out suspicions on-thread like a game of "Guess Who?", why don't you report the user and type your suspicion? That way an admin will see it and can run all the checks if needs be, and then Gordon gets a new playmate if you're right! Mods can't read every post on every thread, especially not on a ridiculously busy forum like AH, so help them out a bit and you both win (and maybe the suspect re-reg will too if it turns out they aren't who they're accused of being)

24-06-2012, 05:58	#7
Overheal Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 34,570 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Facilitators, Feed Forward Private, Feed Forward Public, FeedForward	There is no earthly way I would expect even a dozen AH mods to read through every post of inane shyte that happens in AH. If there is one forum on this entire website where you really have to make use of the report button: THAT IS IT.

24-06-2012, 16:16	#8
*BuffyBot* Administrator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kildare Posts: 18,786 Adverts \| Friends Admin: Banking & Insurance & Pensions, Kildare	I can tell you this much for sure - if there is sufficient evidence of a re-reg, they'll be banned. I speak as someone who banned enough of them in my Admin days. However there isn't often sufficient hard evidence even when you know it's them, deep down. Sometimes you just have to wait it out until there is, or they trip themselves up or revert to their former behaviour patterns and get banned anyway. It's annoying but some will always through for whatever reason! One or two have even come back as reformed, useful members of society

03-07-2012, 20:38	#9
My name is URL Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 17,759 Adverts \| Friends	Seriously, is there not enough evidence to suggest that the person the OP is referring to is a re-reg? I'm sure somebody must have reported a post of his by now.

05-07-2012, 23:27	#13
Micky Dolenz Cat Mod Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stealing your everything. Posts: 35,126 Adverts \| Friends CMod: RGI Tech, After Hours, Boardsie Zombie Hunters, Conspiracy Theories, First Class Lounge, Rec, Rec Mods	Just to point out, don't have an attitude of "shur, I won't bother reporting it, someone else will" Don't call out people as trolls/reregs on thread. It's clear flaming. Report the poster/post instead.