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08-06-2012, 12:02   #1
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Aircoach launching Belfast - Dublin Airport - Dublin City Express

Just saw on the Aircoach site that they now appear to be taking bookings for a new express service between Belfast (Glengall Street), Dublin Airport, and Dublin City Centre (O'Connell Street)

Does anyone have any more details on this service as there does not appear to be any timetable on the site?

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08-06-2012, 12:03   #2
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Didn't Bus Éireann drop this route recently ?
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I know Bus Eireann ran it summer only last year, with half a dozen services every day, but haven't heard if its coming back this year.
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Tried a test booking for tomorrow and returning a week later and got this message
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Sorry. Services on the Belfast Express route will not be introduced until 12th June 2012. Please adjust your journey details and try again.
It appears to be an hourly service between O'Connell St and Belfast only serving the Airport. €17/£14 single and €24/£20 return.

I havwe not seen any advertising or other indication of this service anywhere on the Aircoach site apart from the Travel-shop they have opened in Glengall street.
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I know Bus Eireann ran it summer only last year, with half a dozen services every day, but haven't heard if its coming back this year.
Bus Eireann are running their X2 express service again
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FROM 17TH JUNE TO 15TH SEPTEMBER 2012
but it leaves from the Airport instead of the City Centre

http://www.buseireann.ie/pdf/1306337595-1.pdf
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I'm intrigued by the thread title, do the passengers have to toss their bags out and leap from the bus while it's passing Dublin airport if the coach is 'non-stop' to Dublin city?
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It'll be interesting to see if this works then, personally I think it's going to be very hard to make work, even more so than the Cork route, but we'll see what happens.

There is nothing to stop Bus Eireann and Ulsterbus upping their services, as I believe you do not need a license to start a cross border service so if they do this they could pretty much kill such service before it even starts.

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I'm intrigued by the thread title, do the passengers have to toss their bags out and leap from the bus while it's passing Dublin airport if the coach is 'non-stop' to Dublin city?
Yeah, it's a bit confusing alright, fixed it.

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Just saw on the Aircoach site that they now appear to be taking bookings for a new express service between Belfast (Glengall Street), Dublin Airport, and Dublin City Centre (O'Connell Street)

Does anyone have any more details on this service as there does not appear to be any timetable on the site?
If you play with the online booking engine you can get a rough idea of frequency and fares and the timetable, I managed to extract this by playing around.

TIMETABLE:
From Belfast (Gengall Street)
Hourly from 00:30 to 20:30 then 22:30

From Dublin (O'Connell Street)
01:30 Hourly from 03:30 to 23:30

From Dublin Airport
00:00 02:00 04:00 then hourly for rest of day.

FARES:
To/From Dublin City
Dublin City to/from Belfast Adult Single: 17 Euro / 14 Sterling
Dublin City to/from Belfast Adult Return: 24 Euro / 20 Sterling
Dublin City to/from Belfast Child Single: 10 Euro / 09 Sterling
Dublin City to/from Belfast Child Single: 15 Euro / 12 Sterling

To/From Dublin Airport
Dublin Airport to/from Belfast Adult Single: 16 Euro / 13 Sterling
Dublin Airport to/from Belfast Adult Return: 23 Euro / 19 Sterling
Dublin Airport to/from Belfast Child Single: 09 Euro / 08 Sterling
Dublin Airport to/from Belfast Child Return: 14 Euro / 11 Sterling

It is strange they do not have the full timetable up, or journey time however.
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08-06-2012, 19:15   #9
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So basically same old failings really with regards to information, marketing and the website, I'm not really surprised to be honest, it seems they will never resolve this issues. If they were not ready to publicly announce the service why allow tickets to be booked?

If the service is launching on the 12th June, it's very poor form that:
1) There is such short notice before the service starts.
2) You can book tickets, but you have no idea when the bus will arrive as there is no full timetable.
3) Because of the above, there is no clear details of exactly where the bus stops in the three locations are.
4) There is absolutely no mention of the service anywhere on the site.

All in all it's pretty much typical of what we've seen in the past. I read the commuter Cork services finish tomorrow, what is the bets that come this day they'll still be listing the services on the website even though they don't run anymore.

I was thinking they'd learn from their mistakes, it seems not, unless they prove me wrong in the next couple of days.
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The service does not exist at present as it has not been officially announced. No doubt IT have jumped the gun and allowed tickets to be booked when they should not have so if anyone books a ticket then they could set themselves up for disappointment.

However unfortunately I've seen one person moaning that the Cork commuter service they went to get was not running. Even though it's clearly stated on the news page, the whole Aircoach site still lists such services even though they have now finished.

All of the site should have been updated yesterday, it's unforgivable it still has not been done. I presume the person who is going to do this is not available for whatever reason but still it's no excuse, it gives off a very poor impression and whilst I defended them for the last few months this is not defend-able.
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09-06-2012, 15:41   #11
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The service will start on the 11th of May:
http://www.aircoach.ie/news.article.php?ID=358

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Aircoach is very pleased to announce that, on Monday 11th June 2012, it will be launching a new Express service linking Belfast, Dublin Airport and Dublin City Centre, 24 hours a day. The first service will depart from Belfast at 15:30 on Monday 11th June, and the first service will depart from Dublin at 18:30 (City) and 19:00 (Airport).

With 22 daily trips each way, the service will depart from Glengall Street, Belfast, and will call at both Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 at Dublin Airport before reaching O'Connell Street, in the heart of Dublin City Centre.

The journey time from Belfast to Dublin Airport is scheduled to be 1 hr 50 minutes, with the journey time from Belfast to Dublin City Centre scheduled to be just 2 hrs 10 mins. (Services from Dublin City Centre to Belfast are scheduled to be 2hr 20 mins).

Tickets are now available for booking on our website for journeys from Tuesday 12th June 2012 onwards, and you can pay in advance or onboard the coach in either Euro or Sterling. (Please note that Tickets purchased from our Customer Service Staff at Dublin Airport Terminal 1 or 2 can only be purchased in Euro).

The timetable page will soon be available on www.aircoach.ie and www.goaircoach.co.uk, however the departures will be as follows:

Depart Belfast to Dublin Airport / Dublin City Centre:
00:30, 01:30, 02:30, 03:30, 04:30, 05:30, 06:30, 07:30, 08:30, 09:30, 10:30, 11:30, 12:30, 13:30, 14:30, 15:30, 16:30, 17:30, 18:30, 19:30, 20:30 and 22:30.

Depart Dublin City Centre to Belfast:
01:30, 03:30, 04:30, 05:30, 06:30, 07:30, 08:30, 09:30, 10:30, 11:30, 12:30, 13:30, 14:30, 15:30, 16:30, 17:30, 18:30, 19:30, 20:30, 21:30, 22:30 and 23:30.

Depart Dublin Airport Terminal 1 to Belfast:
02:00, 04:00, 05:00, 06:00, 07:00, 08:00, 09:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00, 18:00, 19:00, 20:00, 21:00, 22:00, 23:00 and 23:59.

(please note the service will depart from Terminal 2 at Dublin Airport 5 minutes before the departure time for Terminal 1).

If would like any further information, please do not hesitate to contact our Customer Service Team on +353 (0) 1 844 7118 or +44 (0) 28 9033 0655 between 09:00 and 17:30, 7 days a week, or by email at info@aircoach.ie / info@goaircoach.co.uk
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This re-start of the Belfast Dublin is interesting. I've heard that First in Britain is not in a good way finacially (like many bus companies).

If First breaks up in any shape in the future, the Belfast-Dublin route will be seen as something of an asset in any sell off. Maybe more value is attached to this cross border route by the company than a route in Cork.

Also Glengall Street is a very congested spot at the best of times, not sure where they have negotiated a parking spot. Rooney's, local company in Co Down operate a Warrenpoint-Newry-Belfast Express in competition with Ulsterbus and recently secured a departure bay in the Europa Buscentre. Maybe this is on Aircoach's to-do list also?
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First are having some problems and their share price has took a dive, but all of their units are overall still profitable so it's not the crisis that some people make it out to be. But of course there are challenges to overcome.

There are problems with the UK bus division in certain areas, but it's not an issue that plights the whole of the bus business. The American businesses are still pretty strong as are the rail businesses i nthe UK. there needs to be some restructuring in UK bus and asset disposals perhaps but no major break-up required, just disposal of some assets which are heavily loss making.

There are lots of politics regarding access to the Europa Bus Centre, especially on routes which compete with Translink/Ulsterbus services, which has resulted in some fun and games down the years. I know Aircoach took them to the UK Office of fare trading years ago but no idea what came of it other than it was a very long, very dragged out affair.
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RadioCity - Not sure what your source is but you're way wide of the mark here.

Glengall Street is considered part of the Europa Bus Centre believe it or not, even though you wouldn't think it location wise. Aircoach apparently won a court case against Translink in relation to fair and equal access to the Europa so therefore Translink were forced to give them access to the Bus Station which of course they were none to happy to actually do for many years in the past, as the previous poster pointed out.

With a court order though, if that was the case, Translink had no choice but to do that, so they're going to give them the worst positioned stop stop on Glengall Street, as it's legally part of the bus station, and therefore they are fulfilling what the court asked them to. Of course some may say that is them trying to do as little as possible to fulfill the order, but fulfill it non the less, but it shows there is a long way to go before we have anything like proper fair access to the Europa.
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Will this new service take many passengers from the Enterprise trains?
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