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Should Keith Barry be banned from tv?

  • 07-04-2012 07:07AM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭


    I think he should. His actions last night were an absolute disgrace.

    1) Practically sexually molesting the guests, including physical touching and instructing, who he says he never met before and having all kinds of sexual innuendo going on.

    2) Making a parody of religion. Now I'm not a religious person myself, but imagine if they did that to the islam religion? There'd be so many complaints it'd be ridiculous.

    3) He's a fraud, a scam artist, a charlatan, and he practically admitted as much himself.

    Now I know there'll be people who go: "but shur what's the matter lol? If you don't believe it's real you don't have to, otherwise don't watch".

    Because it's a LIE. It's deceit. It's a scam. It's not at all like the genuine art of magic, where you are tricked by where you were looking or something like that. This guy probably has electronic boards for the writing the name and it's written wirelessly, if he isn't blatantly lying straight out about such things as meeting them before, he has the person's friends telling them things. Didn't he practically even tell Tubridy to pick someone from the back? An illusion is different from lies. An illusion is different from electronics or getting other people to tell him vital info. A normal magician will tell you that there's a trick involved, which is not a lie. This guy tries his best to convince you he's reading your face or your eyes etc.

    I hate the man. He's the biggest joke I've ever seen. And I judge you poorly if you don't hate him. You KNOW that he can't really look into someone's eyes and get something like that from them - which he accepted himself. So if you know that, and yet you tolerate this tired old repetitive mummer's farce, then I think you must be just stupid.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Joe10000


    I'm not a fan of his but I do get a buzz out of some of the tricks, it's great entertainment.

    I think most people over the age of 10 know that what magicians do is just not possible and part of the wonderment is thinking how on earth was that done.

    I didn't see tv last night so I can't comment on the particulars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,088 ✭✭✭henryporter


    Sounds like you just want anyone who doesn't share your world view to be banned from the planet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    He should be on TV daily, just to annoy you. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭chalkitdown1


    I think you need to get out of the house for a while and take in some fresh air.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 692 ✭✭✭fuerte1976


    Having a bad day are we ?? No I don't think he should be banned so I'm poorer for your displeasure of me :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    Keith who?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭red dave


    So you're annoyed because the guys "magic" isn't real? He "lies" about been able to read peoples minds, whereas other "magicians" are honest people who perform "honest magic"?

    Hate to break it to you here on a public forum....but...Santa isn't real.

    I know how you feel now. Parents...such scumbags lying to us for so long about Santa.

    Good news for you though. The Easter bunny is real ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    I read what was posted in the LLS thread as I missed it, was watching the Masters golf, however it does appear the OP has a point as no one who watched it and who were posting in the LLS thread seemed to like what Keith Barry was doing.

    So I think SuperInfinity has made some valid points even if some are not receptive to them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭Medicine333


    RTE should be criticised for allowing this man mock Catholicism like he did last night, particularly on Good Friday. Like you say, if it had been Islam he was ridiculing, we would be seeing a large-scale investigation now.

    He should not have treated the two audience members like that, and as you say, using sexual innuendo and being completely inappropriate with them.

    RTE seem to continue their tirade against the largest religion denomination in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    Try watching him after your period has finished.

    Mod Note: User cared for personal abuse. Comment on the posts, not the poster.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Stormchas3r


    RTE should be ashamed of themselves allowing this kind of performance on the Late Late Show.

    The foul language, sexual innuendo and mocking of Christianity by the puerile Keith Barry on, of all days, Good Friday is completely unacceptable.

    How low can standards go?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    I'm not sure where people are going with this "imagine if he offended the Muslims" angle.
    I'm an atheist myself but surely, offending Christianity (or any other creed) is as much in poor taste as pissing off followers of Allah.
    Just because those who believe in Mohommad might threaten to blow us all to bits when they get annoyed doesn't make their grievance any more valid than those who simply preach forgiveness.

    As for Keith Barry. I'm not in favour of banning people just because they piss me or other people off.
    As I posted on the LLS thread last night after seeing his 'act', if I had tickets for his show, I'd hand them back.

    What I saw last night was sleazy (in a cheap and nasty kind of way) and not funny or entertaining in any way.

    I'd be more in favour of banning the Late Late Show given what it has become in recent years.
    Few television shows worldwide can match such a fall from grace towards an inevitable slow, agonising and humiliating death.

    Time to put it out of its weekly line up of misery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭red dave



    RTE seem to continue their tirade against the largest cult in Ireland.

    Ftfy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    I watched it on the RTE player.

    He had two women from the audience, he has his make up confessional, he got the women to put their hands through some holes in the panel that separated them in his mock up confesional, he said to one of them her hands were around the height - close enough to crotch height.
    He referred to both women as 'my child', mentioned 'phallus' as he pretended to be a priest, had one woman rub her hands on his legs as he said her hands were too sweaty and said she had 'wonderful tits'.
    He said to one of the women her sex toy in the third drawer needed the batteries changed.

    What could have been good, was taken to gutter level, presuming these women do not know the man it was entirely inappropriate and if any of us were to take two random women and do a similar sort of 'entertainment' act, we would be up for sexual harrassment and rightly so.

    I read that while he is still trending on twitter in Ireland, that Keith Barry was also trending worldwide for a time after his LLS appearance, with both praise and condemnation for his act.

    I see the promoter for his 7 deadly sins act posted a picture of Keith Barry drinking beer before he went on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭secretambition


    The whole act was basically him predicting stuff. Here's one way of doing it - meeting them beforehand. Also, he couldn't have used the tone that he did with them without being confident they were up for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I saw him live years ago, and I have to say - the show was pretty good. And what's all this lark about 'mockery of the Catholic Church'? Since when did the church become out of bounds? People looking at any reason to be upset.

    The only things I thought were inappropiate for a conservative show like the LLS - was the sexual innuendos. The confession thing I wasn't bothered about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭patsman07


    Have to agree with the above. And as someone else stated already if anyone else done what he done they would be liable to be brought up on sexual harrassment charges. The women chosen from the audience should have given him a slap and walked off.
    I was at Derren Brown in the Bord Gais theatre last week and he was far more impressive while being a gentleman throughout. Only 14 year old boys would have found Barry's smut entertaining.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭drquirky


    Its amazing how Catholaholics have no sense of humor- get over yourselves...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    For those who want to see starts at 1hr 33min on rte player.

    Little bit cringy for some parts alright, fair enough if people volunteer but did feel bit bad for girl who was just randomly picked.

    In relation to the gorgeous tits comment in fairness it was actually related to the story wasn't just out of the blue.

    Wasn't too impressed with the performance but didn't see anything too bad about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    dlofnep wrote: »
    I saw him live years ago, and I have to say - the show was pretty good. And what's all this lark about 'mockery of the Catholic Church'? Since when did the church become out of bounds? People looking at any reason to be upset.

    The only things I thought were inappropiate for a conservative show like the LLS - was the sexual innuendos. The confession thing I wasn't bothered about.


    One would think RTE had enough of the Catholic church given the huge error they made with Fr Reynolds and the false accusations they made against him without having someone come on, pretend to be in a confessional and a priest and to then to make sexual references and innuendo as well as having the supposed penitent or child as he called them being subject to sexual harrassment.

    This is what Keith Barry said on twitter: On way home from late late. Great fun.interesting thoughts a round.not my fault the girl thought of her boobs or Michelle! #8deadlysins

    he retweeted the following

    degraded women, was gratuitously anti-Catholic, offended Christians and made a joke out of sex abuse #RTEbias for Good Friday Retweeted by Keith Barry


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Min wrote: »
    One would think RTE had enough of the Catholic church given the huge error they made with Fr Reynolds and the false accusations they made against him without having someone come on, pretend to be in a confessional and a priest and to then to make sexual references and innuendo as well as having the supposed penitent or child as he called them being subject to sexual harrassment.

    This is what Keith Barry said on twitter: On way home from late late. Great fun.interesting thoughts a round.not my fault the girl thought of her boobs or Michelle! #8deadlysins

    he retweeted the following

    degraded women, was gratuitously anti-Catholic, offended Christians and made a joke out of sex abuse #RTEbias for Good Friday Retweeted by Keith Barry

    The Catholic Church is not out of bounds for comedy. This is a free world we live in, with freedom of speech. Stop being over-sensitive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭Cardinal Richelieu


    All publicity is good publicity, Barry loves threads like this. Is OP his agent? I would say most here have seen worse in the Magic/Hypnotist Acts during RAG week over the years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    3) He's a fraud, a scam artist, a charlatan, and he practically admitted as much himself.

    Because it's a LIE. It's deceit. It's a scam.

    I hate the man. He's the biggest joke I've ever seen. And I judge you poorly if you don't hate him.

    Okay, I feel I have to respond to this... I used to work with Keith about ten years ago, and always found him to be a decent guy. He was just a normal guy in a normal job, with the rest of us... quite funny actually. He worked on the magic in the background the whole time, and he rose to fame very quickly, but he's really just a normal guy that put in a LOT of work learning his trade...

    He has always maintained that what he does IS the work of suggestion, misdirection, NLP etc etc and has never claimed to have magic powers. He has in fact offered up 10k for any psychic (who are the real charlatans, pumping money from vulnerable people) who can pass a test to prove that they have the powers that they claim, and none have accepted the offer.

    With regard to last night's act, I agree with you. I thought the thing was awful thrashy, was very lowest common denominator (particularly the "while you're down there luv" jokes), and was very unfair to the two girls who were chosen as (very unwilling and uncomfortable) volunteers.. But I think your attack is WAY too personal, judge the sin not the sinner.. (unintentional pun, Joe Duffy would be proud of that one :D)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    dlofnep wrote: »
    The Catholic Church is not out of bounds for comedy. This is a free world we live in, with freedom of speech. Stop being over-sensitive.

    Pretty poor comedy if that was suppose to be funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Min wrote: »
    Pretty poor comedy if that was suppose to be funny.

    I never said it was funny - that's subjective. I didn't exactly find his piece entertaining. But that's not the point here. The point is you feel that the Catholic Church is out of bounds for comedy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭Medicine333


    dlofnep wrote: »
    I never said it was funny - that's subjective. I didn't exactly find his piece entertaining. But that's not the point here. The point is you feel that the Catholic Church is out of bounds for comedy.

    Last night was not comedy. It went well beyond that. It was insulting, degrading and blasphemic to all Catholic and Christians alike, particularly as it was Good Friday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Last night was not comedy. It went well beyond that. It was insulting, degrading and blasphemic to all Catholic and Christians alike, particularly as it was Good Friday.

    He's been running that segment long before last night. It's a part of his touring show. It was 'comedy'. It's irrelevant if you found it funny or not - I didn't find it funny either, but it's intent was from a comedic standpoint.

    Also - You still haven't demonstrated on why religion is out of bounds for satire.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭red dave


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Last night was not comedy. It went well beyond that. It was insulting, degrading and blasphemic to all Catholic and Christians alike, particularly as it was Good Friday.

    He's been running that segment long before last night. It's a part of his touring show. It was 'comedy'. It's irrelevant if you found it funny or not - I didn't find it funny either, but it's intent was from a comedic standpoint.

    Also - You still haven't demonstrated on why religion is out of bounds for satire.

    The user did....they mentioned the word "blasphemy".

    Good to see the religious nut jobs are plentiful in numbers. I guess the priests will have some material to rant about to their ever faithfull sheep in tomorrow at mass. Anything to deflect attention away from the bible fiction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 poiuytsam


    Hi all , saw the show last night , and I have to agree it was a very poor performance from Keith Barry. They say there is no such thing as bad publicity ! , well this may be the exception to the rule !

    I was quite amazed at his performace , it was tactless , slezy , unprofessional and quite simple unintersting !

    He is certanily capable of a lot more


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭kingtubby


    I'm not sure why people are complaining about him being a fraud.
    The whole art of a stage magician is about deception and illusion.


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