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16-03-2012, 20:28   #1
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Venomous spiders in Ireland?!

Me and my boyfriend are on antibiotics after being attacked by what we've deduced to being a spider bite! I never knew there was anything in this country that could leave us with the horrific lumps we have (himself had to be lacerated without anesthetic!). OH was in A&E today after memory loss, dizziness and numb fingers which came on quite intensely out of nowhere.

We were sleeping in a room that hadn't been used in a long time, and after the extermination we had found a few species, most notably what seems to have been a nest of hobo spiders-Tegenaria agrestis, at the bottom of a wardrobe beside the bed. I managed to identify them after ages with Google, but very easily as soon as I saw it. Under the bed we also found two house spiders, and a white chap that was very like a daddy long legs. So of course the hobo's are getting the blame, but how could it be?!?! I haven't been able to find anything suggesting they exist in Ireland, never mind cause this much trouble. Could we be on the right track?

My friend was treated for staph (also found in boyfriends swab results) not so long ago & when I showed him the hobo he immediately recognized them as being the same as ones he recently found and killed in his attic. His house and my room are both in the countryside and had been dormant just before this happened, so could the hobo's have taken up residence in it? Is it most likely the 'aggressive house spider', or are there any other dangerous spiders in Ireland we need to know about! All I can find out is that America's hobo's originated in Europe

We're certain it was spider bite as my boyfriend was bitten first, and after the first night we swapped sides of the bed (as he was having trouble sleeping with the side his bite was on), I woke up with the same thing.

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17-03-2012, 11:48   #2
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antibiotics will kill a bacterial infection, if you were having problems with spider venom you would need an anti-venom.
Staph infections are contagious human to human. I don't think we have spiders in Ireland with enough venom to affect humans - they certainly can bite though. I lived in a house with those giant house spiders..... horrific
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are you sure it wasn't dust mites, fleas etc
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Jesus. I will never be right again.

What did they say it was in A&E?
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18-03-2012, 18:49   #6
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I cant imagine a spider biting a person because they lie on its side of the bed.

I would have guessed bed bugs or dog/cat fleas
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18-03-2012, 18:59   #7
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Doesn't sound like a spider bite to me and if it was antibiotics wouldn't help at all.

I don't think insects even carry Staph infection, if your friend had it not so long ago it's more likely that you picked it up from him/her somehow
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Definitely wasn't ticks or fleas or bed bugs, I wish! It was like this on OH's leg http://search.babylon.com/imageres.p...e&babsrc=SP_ss , mine wasn't as bad. Since mine has gone down over the past two days I can see the bite marks

I contacted a friend of a friend ecologist and it turns out I was right about it being the hobo spider. Its not the first time he has dealt with them either! Supposedly even black widows have been found in houses around Dublin port.

The hobo isn't native to Ireland, but are becoming more common indoors and outdoors as they come in, usually the egg sacs, from mainland Europe or possibly the U.S. They love piles of stuff on the ground of which there was nothing but in the house.

Antibiotics are often needed for spider bites, but the doctors didn't really know too much about what they were dealing with. All my boyfriends tests came back clear, they didn't check for anything to do with a bite though. Both of us have memory loss and headaches but he's much worse Recovery has followed the course of a spider bite, can't believe it, little bastards!
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Me and my boyfriend are on antibiotics after being attacked by what we've deduced to being a spider bite!
Congratulations! you must be the first people in Ireland ( and the world) to have been attacked by an actual spider bite. I wonder where the spider was when the 'bite' was attacking you? Maybe the nasty spider was watching from his web and laughing at the unfolding scenario .

http://boondocsmedicine.com/index.ph...cine&Itemid=61

As a trained dermatologist, skin infections are one of my specialties, and you can imagine how often "skin stuff" happens outdoors. One of the most common clinical problems I see are bacterial infections. More specifically, the skin lesions induced by a bacteria known by the species name Staphylococci (Staph, for short) can be particularly troublesome and account for everything ranging from easy-to-treat impetigo and folliculitis to painful furuncles (boils) to life-threatening Staph Scalded Skin and Toxic Shock Syndrome! Amazingly, people often think they have been "bitten by a Brown Recluse spider" but, when all is said and done, it is a simple bacterial infection of the skin that is to blame.
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Congratulations! you must be the first people in Ireland ( and the world) to have been attacked by an actual spider bite. I wonder where the spider was when the 'bite' was attacking you? Maybe the nasty spider was watching from his web and laughing at the unfolding scenario .

http://boondocsmedicine.com/index.ph...cine&Itemid=61

As a trained dermatologist, skin infections are one of my specialties, and you can imagine how often "skin stuff" happens outdoors. One of the most common clinical problems I see are bacterial infections. More specifically, the skin lesions induced by a bacteria known by the species name Staphylococci (Staph, for short) can be particularly troublesome and account for everything ranging from easy-to-treat impetigo and folliculitis to painful furuncles (boils) to life-threatening Staph Scalded Skin and Toxic Shock Syndrome! Amazingly, people often think they have been "bitten by a Brown Recluse spider" but, when all is said and done, it is a simple bacterial infection of the skin that is to blame.
We found a nest of spiders identified as being what I've said they were beside our bed and through the house. I could see bite marks on my arm of a spider, in fact staph was found in boyfriends wound and not mine, and you decide to... attack my grammar and then just tell me I'm wrong despite the obvious? Jesus you must be a bit mad!
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We found a nest of spiders identified as being what I've said they were beside our bed

any pics?
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Sorry, I've come on here and all I've seem to have gotten back is doubt or abuse. Been in touch and showed specimens to ecogologist and everyone else. And I shouldn't really need to post pics online to prove anything, I was just looking for some advice. Unfortunately I never got any pics of what bit but I'll try my best over the next few days. Thanks very ****ing much really.

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I've been bitten twice by a spider that I think might be a false black widow. both times was in spring and both times from putting on clothes straight from the line in my poly tunnel. Both times I needed an adrenalin shot and a serious dose of antibiotics, It was no joke and I'm now terrified of being bitten again. I still have the scars. Please be careful and maybe have the room fumigated, next time it could be even worse. I actually felt the bites when they happened and it was quite a nip.
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I've been bitten twice by a spider that I think might be a false black widow. both times was in spring and both times from putting on clothes straight from the line in my poly tunnel. Both times I needed an adrenalin shot and a serious dose of antibiotics, It was no joke and I'm now terrified of being bitten again. I still have the scars. Please be careful and maybe have the room fumigated, next time it could be even worse. I actually felt the bites when they happened and it was quite a nip.
Thanks yellowlabrador, its terrifying, if they're in any other country to survive it, the why not here eh?! We are getting the house fumigated tomorrow morning, they were nasty bites anyway, hopefully will have some pics then!
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I feel your pain, over a year ago I felt a very sharp pain just under my left eye I put my hand up (as you do) to see what was on me and a Huntsman Spider fell to the ground! After the swelling went down I could see two Very distinctive Large puncture wounds where the bite had occured. I was perscribed anti inflammatorys and an antibiotic cream for the bite site. Hairy S**T!
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