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Mr Steve Wozniak and my Apple I

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  • 23-02-2012 10:49pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 8,853 ✭✭✭


    Well, this evening I got an email and then a phone call from a certain Mr Steve "Woz" Wozniak (not his secretary or agent or assistant, twas the man himself).

    I've been trying to get in contact with him for a little while now in regards to the possible sale of my Apple I later this year. I was enquiring if he'd be willing to sign it and also offered him an invite to attend the auction of said Apple I later on in the year(including dinner with myself and my girlfriend at the restaurant of his choosing), if I decide to go ahead with it.

    Well today I got a personal email from him and then an arranged phone call a little later. This guy is completely cool and we talked about a few other gadget and computer related things during our 30min chat.
    I mentioned the iPad 3 in passing and asked him if he had any inside info(he didn't and said he hears about things the same way we all do) and then we talked about Steve Jobs for a couple of mins(maddest phone call ever really).

    So anyway, long story short he said he'd most certainly be willing to sign it for me and would absolutely attend the auction if it goes ahead(he said he's attended a few of them over the years, most recently in London a while back). I asked if I decided to hold on to it would he still sign it, no probs he said and we can arrange to meet up later in the year if I'm over in the states or he's over in london.

    So basically a pretty cool day and totally worth a little bit of research to get in contact with him without spamming him through Facebook or Twitter as I'm sure loads of people do. I wont go into the details of how I contacted him but I think it was fairly classy if I do say so myself :cool:



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I
    Am
    Jealous....


    I wonder if Clive Sinclair will sign my Spectrum?


  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Dale Parish


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    I
    Am
    Jealous....


    I wonder if Clive Sinclair will sign my Spectrum?
    To be honest, I think he would. People like these are more than simply businessmen interested in the bottom line. They believe in what they do and love what the do, not what they make out of it.
    True legends.

    On topic:
    How very very epic Steve :D
    Which London auction house are you going to run it through?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,853 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    To be honest, I think he would. People like these are more than simply businessmen interested in the bottom line. They believe in what they do and love what the do, not what they make out of it.
    True legends.

    On topic:
    How very very epic Steve :D
    Which London auction house are you going to run it through?

    I'm undecided at the moment but The Woz recommended Christie's as he attended an auction there for another Apple I before and he liked how they dealt with the whole thing.
    I'm not really 100 percent sure that i want to sell it. But i am 100 percent sure I want it autographed :D

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  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Dale Parish


    Hmm. Before you sell it you should consider getting all the other [vintage] Apple computers and forming an ultimate collection :p


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,865 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    The story about Steve Jobs screwing over Steve Wozniak is one of the best videogame related stories ever.

    The fact that Steve Wozniak saw the funny side of it shows what a great guy he is.

    Lucky you Steve SI for getting to talk to him.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,181 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    ya lucky git!
    I was feeling all cock o' the hoop as the author of one of my favorite atari 8 bit games just stuck a post on one of my videos this evening but you may have gone one better with your personal phone call ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,963 ✭✭✭Doge


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    The story about Steve Jobs screwing over Steve Wozniak is one of the best videogame related stories ever.

    The fact that Steve Wozniak saw the funny side of it shows what a great guy he is.

    Lucky you Steve SI for getting to talk to him.

    +1

    Fair play to you Steve for talking to such a talented engineer that was a catalyst in pushing the personal computer forward in the 80s.
    I would have twice the amount of respect for him than I would have for Steve Jobs.

    You seem to be destined for great things ya fecker!
    You'll have to share your secrets to success with us some day!


  • Registered Users Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Id just like to point out I hate you :pac:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    The great and wonderful Woz did a cameo in The Big Bang Theory, just don't let what happened to Sheldon happen to you!


  • Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭80s Synth Pop


    Tell us more... Did you write a letter for first contact? What did he have to say over a 30 min call?

    Oh, and if it was mine, I'd hold on to it (in a bank safe). If Action Comics #1 can sell for 1 million, the Apple #1 can too given enough time


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,853 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    Tell us more... Did you write a letter for first contact? What did he have to say over a 30 min call?

    Oh, and if it was mine, I'd hold on to it (in a bank safe). If Action Comics #1 can sell for 1 million, the Apple #1 can too given enough time

    We talked about a few things, both technical and just chit chat stuff.

    The Apple I itself is stored in a very safe and secure place(as in, not where I live).

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Steve SI wrote: »
    The Apple I itself is stored in a very safe and secure place(as in, not where I live)

    Here, it's not in Coolock is it? :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    How much are those things worth anyways?
    Will some Apple-loving evangelist buy it at auction and wonder where the touchscreen is? Or why it won't run Angry Birds?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    How much are those things worth anyways?
    Will some Apple-loving evangelist buy it at auction and wonder where the touchscreen is? Or why it won't run Angry Birds?

    Wondering that too, whats its roughly worth Steve?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,963 ✭✭✭Doge


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Will some Apple-loving evangelist buy it at auction and wonder where the touchscreen is? Or why it won't run Angry Birds?


    :pac: :pac: :pac:


    Funny cause it's true!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,376 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    EnterNow wrote: »
    Wondering that too, whats its roughly worth Steve?

    Grabbed from wikipedia:
    As of 2008, an estimated 40 to 50[citation needed] Apple I computers are still known to exist, making it a very rare collector's item. An Apple I reportedly sold for $50,000 USD at auction in 1999, with another apparently selling in 2009 for $17,500; however, a more typical price for an Apple I is in the $14,000–$16,000 range.[citation needed] In November 2009 the Apple I with serial number 82 was listed on eBay with a starting bid of $50,000 but it is unreported as to whether the computer was sold. However, in November 2010, this same Apple I (with serial number 82) sold for the equivalent of $US178,000 ($US213,600 including the 'buyer's premium') at Christie's auction house in London,[10] making it by far the highest price paid for this model to date, at GB£133,250 ($210,000). The high value of this particular example is likely due to the rare documents and packaging offered in the sale rather than the computer itself; namely (and amongst others) the original packaging (with the return label showing Steve Jobs' parents' address, the original Apple Computer Inc 'headquarters' being their garage), a personally typed and signed letter from Jobs (answering technical questions about the computer) and the original invoice showing 'Steven' as the salesman. The computer was brought to Turin University where it was used to run the BASIC programming language.

    I sure hope you have some rare documents... :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭sham69


    Great story.
    Woz does seem to be one of the nicest guys in what was quite a cut-throat industry.
    Steve ripping him off is quite funny and he saw the funny side of it.
    I suppose he see's it like Steve set the ball in motion with the apple 1 etc.
    If he didnt, Woz would have stayed building machines as a hobby.
    Good Luck with the sale Steve...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,853 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    Here, it's not in Coolock is it? :D

    357sj6.jpg

    As for what I think its worth. Well I guess I could drop it in to the RAGE and see what they think :D

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  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Dale Parish


    What software do you have that works with it? never thought about it like that considering there wouldn't have been any commercial software for it


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,853 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    What software do you have that works with it? never thought about it like that considering there wouldn't have been any commercial software for it

    Mainly homebrew stuff available for it over the years(it was a homebrew machine after all).
    
    But I have basic and a few games on original and also backup tapes.

    It's not the easiest thing to get your head around if your used to more modern devices.

    Here's a old Star Trek game(you would have typed this in and then saved to cassette if you were lucky enough to have such a device available and connected properly):
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    :72 13 B2 14 00 03 64 D3 12 D8 B5 12 B8 08 00 14 D9 B5 65 B0 00 00 01 26
    :76 07 60 CB B1 25 5B 03 63 03 61 28 CD C9 D3 D3 C9 CF CE A0 C1 C3 C3 CF
    :CD D0 CC C9 D3 C8 C5 C4 A1 29 03 51 01 18 D0 07 C3 40 70 28 AB AD AD AD
    :29 03 CE 71 B8 08 00 03 5C B1 40 06 01 1E DA 07 55 D9 56 B7 07 00 57 B0
    :00 00 58 36 B1 01 00 03 55 D8 56 B0 00 00 57 B7 07 00 01 42 E4 07 D0 71
    :B3 03 00 14 2E 3F D3 12 D8 12 B8 08 00 14 D9 72 12 B1 01 00 03 60 D8 16
    :B0 00 00 25 61 28 A1 29 47 03 60 D8 17 B0 00 00 25 61 28 A0 29 47 03 61
    :C4 40 2A D0 23 D0 12 B2 02 00 72 47 01 26 EE 07 59 D8 03 61 28 A1 29 03
    :60 D9 16 B0 00 00 24 B2 F8 07 03 61 28 AB 29 47 03 50 B3 21 00 03 61 28
    :AB 29 01 0D F8 07 59 D9 03 5C B1 40 06 03 5B FF
    
    E2B3R
    RUN
    

    And the main input screen:
    apple1_display.gif

    And the Game of Life:
    2000: A2 00 A9 A0 9D 00 24 9D 00 25 9D 00 26 9D 00 27 E8 D0 F1 BD 80 21 20 EF FF E8 E0 38 D0 F5 20 02
    : 21 C9 8D D0 F9 20 3F 21 29 3F 69 20 85 F9 A0 00 20 3F 21 29 03 18 69 24 85 F1 A5 FA 85 F0 A9 AA
    : 91 F0 C6 F9 D0 EA A9 24 85 F9 A9 40 85 F8 A2 27 A9 AD 9D D8 27 9D 40 24 CA 10 F7 B1 F8 20 EF FF
    : E6 F8 D0 F7 E6 F9 A5 F9 C9 28 D0 EF 20 02 21 A0 00 20 F3 20 B1 F0 91 F2 E6 F0 E6 F2 D0 F6 E6 F1
    : E6 F3 A5 F1 C9 28 D0 EC 20 61 21 A0 00 B1 F2 C9 AA D0 0A A0 27 20 14 21 A0 01 20 1D 21 E6 F0 E6
    : F2 D0 E8 E6 F1 E6 F3 A5 F1 C9 28 D0 DE 18 A2 27 BD D8 27 7D 68 24 9D 68 24 BD 40 24 7D B0 27 9D
    : B0 27 CA 10 EB 20 F3 20 A0 00 B1 F0 C9 02 D0 04 B1 F2 D0 0A C9 03 D0 04 A9 AA D0 02 A9 A0 91 F0
    : E6 F0 E6 F2 D0 E2 E6 F1 E6 F3 A5 F3 C9 2C D0 D8 4C 46 20 A9 24 85 F1 A9 28 85 F3 A9 40 85 F0 85
    : F2 60 E6 FA D0 02 E6 FB AD 11 D0 10 F5 AD 10 D0 20 EF FF 60 20 1D 21 C8 C0 2A D0 F8 60 18 B1 F0
    : 69 01 91 F0 84 F9 38 A5 F0 E5 F9 85 F6 A5 F1 E9 00 85 F7 A0 00 B1 F6 18 69 01 91 F6 A4 F9 60 A5
    : FB 85 F6 A5 FA 0A 26 F6 0A 26 F6 18 65 FA 48 A5 F6 65 FB 85 FB 68 69 11 85 FA A5 FB 69 36 85 FB
    : 60 20 F3 20 A9 00 A8 91 F0 E6 F0 D0 FA E6 F1 A6 F1 E0 28 D0 F2 20 F3 20 60 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0
    : 8D 8D 8D 8D C3 CF CE D7 C1 D9 A7 D3 A0 C7 C1 CD C5 A0 CF C6 A0 CC C9 C6 C5 8D 8D D0 CC C5 C1 D3
    : C5 A0 D4 D9 D0 C5 A0 D9 CF D5 D2 A0 C6 D5 CC CC A0 CE C1 CD C5 AE 8D 8D
    

    The tapes look like these(I don't have all these on original tapes, just the Basic programming tapes and trek and a few other things, the rest is on normal tapes):
    a1_cassettes.jpeg

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  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Dale Parish


    Is there a built in assembler?


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭highfive


    Big respect to the poster. Just finished reading the steve jobs biography and its amazing all the stuff he and woz got up to. Best of luck with the auction ;)

    Earliest thing I had was a c64 but it was da bomb! I used to brag to my mates that I 'hacked into the ram'! Also, I wrote a program that bounced a ball around the screen lol!

    Question: Did the poster buy the apple 1 when it came out or later and what did he use it for?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,853 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    Is there a built in assembler?

    From the Apple Museum:
    Operating System:
    Woz built the Apple I to run BASIC, so games could be programmed and played on it. It was a game machine for the most part. Woz thought the binary switches of the Altair 8800 and similar PCs were not user friendly enough so he wrote a BASIC language assembler into the ROM by hand using only hex. The Apple I did allow you to play around with the system using the 6502 disassembler though, following the philosophy that every user should be allowed to know everything about their computer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,853 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    highfive wrote: »

    Question: Did the poster buy the apple 1 when it came out or later and what did he use it for?

    I bought it a good few years ago(not in the 80's or anything like that, very late 90's or very early 00's I think).

    I wasn't born when it originally came out :)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 810 ✭✭✭who what when


    sham69 wrote: »
    If he didnt, Woz would have stayed building machines as a hobby.
    ..

    From what I know of the man I doubt if he would have had much of a problem with this scenario! Money wasnt top of his list by any means, in fact im not sure if money was even on his list at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭highfive


    Steve SI wrote: »


    I wasn't born when it originally came out :)

    .

    Ah so your not that old then. On the ball buying one b4 apple woz as famous as it is now(woz, no pun intended!) :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,322 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    how much did you get it for and from where?
    does it have all its bit?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,853 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    Skerries wrote: »
    how much did you get it for and from where?
    does it have all its bit?

    When I got it it had most of the bits, but not all. I picked up the remaining few little bits over the years(the last very small part I got last year from a private seller on apple fritter). It was not released with a case of any kind but the one I have was made for it in the late 70's I think(made from oak).

    I wont be so crude as to talk about how much it was or how much I paid to complete it over the years :rolleyes:
    But sufficed to say if I do sell it I'll make a profit.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭CathalDublin


    E4+1 Now:D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,853 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    E4+1 Now:D

    Missed it but seen that episode before :)


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