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Do you have an economic background?

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  • 22-12-2011 8:21pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 785 ✭✭✭


    I'm just curious as to what the background of posters (especially the regular contributors) is within the Irish Economy forum. Do you work in the financial industry or did you study finance or economics in third level?

    For me it's no to both questions. I'm an engineer and I had a vague notion of how the equity markets worked but had no clue about bond markets or general macro economics. I only developed a real interest in this area since the financial melt-down of 2008. I just wanted to try and understand what they were talking about in the news. I've since read a few books and this forum has been a fairly decent source of knowledge as well.

    So how about you?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    I'm a writer / musician / code monkey with an interest in politics and economics. I've never formally studied either but one doesn't need a degree to enjoy something.

    So that would be a nay from me, I'm neither an economist nor an accountant :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    Both, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I know more than the next guy, as the markets always have a habit of kicking you just when you think you've things mastered.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,173 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Leaving Cert and 2 years College as part of a Bachelor of Commerce but haven't worked in the area.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭sarumite


    I am a scientist myself. Other than Business Org at leaving cert I have no other experience. I have always had an interest in politics etc. I have had a pretty tough few years since the recession and as a result I have started taking more interest in the economy in general.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    In my 4th year of an Economics degree in TCD. Hopefully I'll get a job. Even better if it's an economics related job :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    I'm an Economics graduate from UCD & Postgrad in accounting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    Scientist by training (Physics/Maths) but a programmer by profession.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,468 ✭✭✭BluntGuy


    Masters in physics and a degree in applied mathematics and physics.

    Dunno if that particularly helps understand economics, but I've a fairly healthy interest in it. :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    msc in thphysics & maths, working & qualifying as an actuary now
    i did take an economics exam this year :pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    Physics graduate working as Quant developer for hedgefund. No training in economics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭Dr Galen


    My primary degree was in Economics back in the day. Since then I've a B.Sc and some post grad work in healthcare stuff.

    Likely will be going back to college next year do some type of economicsy/financey/commercey/businessey Masters


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    A degree in Economics, background in Physics and Applied Maths too, some post grad experience in Economics/Applied maths. Though to be honest I was always more interested in modelling stuff than actual policy stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭Dr Galen


    I'd actually be the opposite tbh. The applied maths/numbers part of economics never really appealed to me. Much more interested in policy and the sociological impact of economic policy etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Dr Galen wrote: »
    I'd actually be the opposite tbh. The applied maths/numbers part of economics never really appealed to me. Much more interested in policy and the sociological impact of economic policy etc.

    Not technical enough for me. I'm kinda interesting in health economics and actual DALY rates for various illnesses versus money spent on them etc but when it comes to framing budgets etc it's just too messy to be intellectually pleasing for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    MSc in environmental resource management, now programming/project managing/workflow/communications consulting. Self-taught in economics...mind you, self-taught in everything I do for a living as well!

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    I am a practising barrister at the Irish bar with an undergraduate and masters degree in law (as well as the King's Inns Barrister-at-Law degree obviously) and I am attempting to start my PhD in law as well; but in a previous life I was 2 years into an economics degree.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    Software developer by day, sometimes by night...

    I only really got interested in the whole thing from the economic collapse as was just in first job out of college at the stage and wanted to work out what was coming down the line so wanted to stay informed.

    I'm not that hardcore into economics I don't think (I don't even know much about what types of study there is in the area), I like to read some of the stuff here and in the economics forum but not really interested in doing the Math's and actually modeling anything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    thebman wrote: »
    Software developer by day, sometimes by night...

    I only really got interested in the whole thing from the economic collapse as was just in first job out of college at the stage and wanted to work out what was coming down the line so wanted to stay informed.

    I'm not that hardcore into economics I don't think (I don't even know much about what types of study there is in the area), I like to read some of the stuff here and in the economics forum but not really interested in doing the Math's and actually modeling anything.
    Sort of the reason I quit :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,468 ✭✭✭BluntGuy


    Scofflaw wrote: »
    MSc in environmental resource management, now programming/project managing/workflow/communications consulting. Self-taught in economics...mind you, self-taught in everything I do for a living as well!

    cordially,
    Scofflaw

    I'm interested, did you ever work in any area of environmental management or a "green" area in general?

    Good thread by the way OP, interesting to see the backgrounds of some of the contributors here. :)

    Nice to see a lot of physics types. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Needing an economics degree in order to understand the economic crisis is a bit like needing a sports science degree to understand why Ireland had such a dreadful world cup.

    I know economists who have no real appreciation for the fleeting 'live economy', much in the same way that a mathematician specialising in optimization modeling may have little enthusiasm for, say, devising bus timetables.

    We must separate economic theory (the art of trying to understand the economy and its components) from our temporary understanding of this fleeting 'live economy' we live with. Understanding the latter mainly requires an understanding of politics and an appreciation for absurd human behaviour. The requirement to know much about economic science is not a particularly gruelling one - a basic grasp will suffice. Nobody needs an economics degree to understand this - much of which is never taught at University anyway.
    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.
    I have to question the suggestion that economists 'lacking vision' is a bad thing.

    Economics as a pure science must never lower itself to visions, nor to passing down visionary diktats to bankers, politicians or individuals. Economists ought only be concerned only with understanding the economy and its components. No objective scientist argues for any more than what is demonstrably true. His progress is slow and steady; painstaking, perhaps. He presents his conclusions and allows others to interpret them as they wish.

    Suggesting that economists become philosophers is not unlike proposing that nuclear physicists ought to be pro or anti nuclear energy. It misses the point entirely. We should pursue knowledge for its own sake; not to, as Eliot says, 'squeeze the universe in a ball, to roll it toward an overwhelming question."

    It is not the economist's role to predict or to preach, merely to understand.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    later10 wrote: »
    It is not the economist's role to predict or to preach, merely to understand.

    Indeed. Though I'd preface economist with academic, many industry ones aren't really that interested in understanding as much as they're interested in backing up a certain world view. There are some excellent industry economists who aren't like this of course.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Voltex


    Degree in Business Mgmt...Dip in Food manufact mgmt (UCC)...C&G qualified in Craft Bakery and C&G Bakery Technology. Hopefully starting MBS in Sept.
    No stand alone economic qualificatons...although covered intro micro and macro on my degree.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,173 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Surely the suggestion that economist should be like philosophers is suggesting that economists should question rather than hypothesise?


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Surely the suggestion that economist should be like philosophers is suggesting that economists should question rather than hypothesise?

    It's a problem in the social sciences in general, not just economics. It's hard to do pure science when it's people's lives and livelihoods you're talking about. You have to develop a rather extreme detachment in order to do the science properly. E.g. in some ways we shouldn't put as much a % of money into cancer research because cancer while very, very serious is only one of a number of conditions that disable people and ruin lives. So rationally we should cut some funding and redirect it into mental health or whatever. Try telling that to a cancer patient's face though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    BluntGuy wrote: »
    I'm interested, did you ever work in any area of environmental management or a "green" area in general?

    Primarily groundwater for a few years, since my primary degree was geology (previously in the oil industry). Marine conservation, eco-tourism (again, though, geo-tourism). I was hoping to get into integrated coastal zone management here - indeed, any form of integrated environmental management, since the people/social/economic side is as important as the scientific side - but despite a brief flurry of consultant's reports, 'position papers' and 'reviews' here in the late 1990s, nothing ever happened.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,681 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Scofflaw wrote: »
    Primarily groundwater for a few years, since my primary degree was geology (previously in the oil industry).
    Well with Geological mapping you get to survive in hostile conditions with little or any support-rather like today's economy (BTW ditto on the geology degree)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    Economics student in UCD and have about 6 years experience working in the finance industry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Dannyboy83


    Degree in Computer Science.
    Self taught in most things.
    Knew little about politics or economics before I joined this forum.

    I'm only here because I reckon we're going to have a soft landing and I want to discourage people from talking down the economy.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭daithimacgroin


    On what basis do you think there will be a soft-landing?


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