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New Build Newbie Needs Advice
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27-01-2011 3:01pm#1
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The above recommendations are sound, the corsair PSU and the CM LITE case are good performers. Get 2-3 120mm fans to stick in the 690 II LITE and it's a great case.
If your main apps make use of hyperthreading, go for an i7-2600k, if not go for an i5-2500k.
Something like this for the motherboard: http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41964&agid=1601
CPU Cooler: http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39771&agid=669
At €136 this 460 GTX might be excessive for your graphics needs, but it's DX11 and will offer a lot more future-proofing then a GT 240 should a game come along in the near future that you want to play. This applies even more if you play in a resolution of 1650 or more. And besides, you're already saving a bundle if you change from the older i7 to a 2500k/2600k
For soundcards check out the Asus Xonar range, whatever best suits your audio needs.
For the OS drive you might consider a ~60GB SSD, they come in at around €120.
That version of windows 7 will be fine, although it is a system builder version and they are locked to the first motherboard they're registered on.0 -
That sounds good. I will stick that PSU down.I don't think the case with the built-in power supply is a good idea. Looks very narrow too. With a lot of money being spent, I would recommend a high quality PSU like this one - Corsair TX 650W Power Supply - €74 and also a beefier case. I understand the power supply is probably more than you require but HWV don't have the Corsair TX 550W in stock, I believe.
Yeah, it's a pity those cases are both out of stock until Feb 15th. I would hope to have the components ordered before then.Moon54 wrote:The Coolermaster 690 II Advanced PC case for €95 or Coolermaster CM 690 II Lite for €66, are highly recommended (and out of stock for a reason!) from what I've researched around various forums. Light can be turned off with a switch too, lol.
I might be tempted if I knew anything about themMoon54 wrote:Are you not tempted to go for the new Sandy Bridge cpu's?
The i7 960 is 45nm technology, whereas the new Sandy Bridge i7 2600 is 32 nm, and almost half the cost. :eek:. I'll do some reading on them later today.
Thanks for the tip I'll add that to the list too.Moon54 wrote:Oh yeah, I got a CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus CPU heatsink for about €20 as a stock cooler replacement. Couldn't find it on HWV, i got mine on scan.co.uk.
Fair enough. As I said I'm not much of a gamer but no doubt as soon as I get the system assembled some game will come out and I'll just have to play it so there's probably no harm in getting something half-decent in there.Moon54 wrote:You could probably future-proof the build a bit by upgrading the graphics card up to a DirectX 11 DDR5 1GB model. Cheapest one on HWV is about €99.
Do you have any links to particular fans I should go for? Also any other cases that might be suitable like this one or this one?Get 2-3 120mm fans to stick in the 690 II LITE and it's a great case.
Good point, I'll check out whether the apps I use most often support hyperthreading or not.seyeM wrote:If your main apps make use of hyperthreading, go for an i7-2600k, if not go for an i5-2500k.
Thanks for that, I'll check those out.seyeM wrote:Something like this for the motherboard: http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41964&agid=1601
CPU Cooler: http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39771&agid=669
Grand, I didn't really think too much about the graphics card choice that I had made, as I wrote above, it's probably better to have a certain amount of future-proofing in there.seyeM wrote:At €136 this 460 GTX might be excessive for your graphics needs, but it's DX11 and will offer a lot more future-proofing then a GT 240 should a game come along in the near future that you want to play. This applies even more if you play in a resolution of 1650 or more. And besides, you're already saving a bundle if you change from the older i7 to a 2500k/2600k
Will do, thanks for the tip.seyeM wrote:For soundcards check out the Asus Xonar range, whatever best suits your audio needs.
I hadn't thought about an SSD. Are they pretty common these days and do they make that much of a difference compared to the "normal" type of drive?seyeM wrote:For the OS drive you might consider a ~60GB SSD, they come in at around €120.
Good point, I hadn't noticed that.seyeM wrote:That version of windows 7 will be fine, although it is a system builder version and they are locked to the first motherboard they're registered on.0 -
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Sure, I do play games but I'm not looking to be able to play the latest and greatest games at the highest resolution with all the graphical eye-candy turned on. Most of the gaming that I do is done on my PS3 anyway. The last PC games I bought were bundles of Icewind Dale I and II and Baldur's Gate I and II.marco_polo wrote: »Can you define 'Not much of a gamer' because if that really means not at all you could go with a sandybridge CPU and H67 board and use the onboardCPU graphics and dispense with the discreet GPU.0 -
Well if those two games are fairly typical of the kind of games you play you really don't need a powerful graphics card at all. I would just go with something like this.
Swap in a GT 460 or something if you see yourself will be playing some more graphically intensive 3D games in the future.
No reccomendations on the high quality soundcard front, not an area I know too much about TBH.
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I was going to suggest the 2600k instead, but the price difference is very big. The 2500 vs 2500k is much more reasonable. Unless the applications benefit greatly from HT, the 2500k is a better deal with some overclocking.
That 3TB isn't good price/GB. 2TB drives are only €80ish, so 2x2TB would be still cheaper. Also, you don't want the 1TB F1. You want the F3.
Doh both these points shame me
, I though I was picking the F3, but the obscene price of the 3Tb just never registered for some reason 
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I think that Asus LE motherboard is the worst in their P67 line, it'd be worth stumping up an extra 20 or 30 euro for a more capable one.
Being the entry level board it has the least amount of additional features which in all fairness is not quite the same thing as being 'the worst'. The Pro version has better overclocking features alright, but not much else differs between them. I did it up under the assumption that the OP was not going to be overclocking which is why I chose that board and and a non 'K' model chip (I should have asked first I suppose). 0 -
marco_polo wrote: »Being the entry level board it has the least amount of additional features which in all fairness is not quite the same thing as being 'the worst'. The Pro version has better overclocking features alright, but not much else differs between them. I did it up under the assumption that the OP was not going to be overclocking which is why I chose that board and and a non 'K' model chip (I should have asked first I suppose).
I meant more along the lines of getting a P8P67 over the P8P67 LE, €9 in the difference, and there is a bit of a gap in features between the LE and the rest of the P67 lineup.
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hold off for at least a month as Intel has hit problems with their new chip
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056165088
i had to cancel my order this morning because of it
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Heh, it'll probably take me that long to sort out exactly what I'm buyinghold off for at least a month as Intel has hit problems with their new chip
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056165088
i had to cancel my order this morning because of it
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Some more questions based on the posts I've read through today:- Does the amount of RAM on the graphics card matter that much? I've replaced the 1Gb GT240 card I had chosen with a 768Mb GTX460 and it's a lot more expensive - €130 versus €60.
- Is there a very noticable difference between a spindle speed of 7200RPM and 5400RPM?
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