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  • 21-01-2011 1:38am
    #1
    Letyourselfgo
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    how many winners/losers I can find.
    Long time lurker and inspired by greetings, nulty and xpyro I thought I'd log my horse selections here.

    Lingfield
    3:40 - Sasheen 5.8
    4:15 - Rubenstar 6.2

    Wolverhampton
    5:05 - Inde country 14.0
    6:35 - swimsuit 6.0
    7:05 - Chinese democracy 4.2
    7:35 - Cheveyo 6.6

    Chepstow
    1:40 - Lady of ashcott 9.4

    Catterick
    2:55 - Amir pasha 8.0
    3:30 - The brig at ayr 19.5

    It's alot of selections but I'm just trying sth out, I'll stick the results up tomorrowin this table to keep it all neat.

    Horse|Result|BSP
    Lady of ashcott|||
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    yesno1234
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    Letyourselfgo wrote: »
    how many winners/losers I can find.
    Long time lurker and inspired by greetings, nulty and xpyro I thought I'd log my horse selections here.

    Lingfield
    3:40 - Sasheen 5.8
    4:15 - Rubenstar 6.2

    Wolverhampton
    5:05 - Inde country 14.0
    6:35 - swimsuit 6.0
    7:05 - Chinese democracy 4.2
    7:35 - Cheveyo 6.6

    Chepstow
    1:40 - Lady of ashcott 9.4

    Catterick
    2:55 - Amir pasha 8.0
    3:30 - The brig at ayr 19.5

    It's alot of selections but I'm just trying sth out, I'll stick the results up tomorrowin this table to keep it all neat.

    Horse|Result|BSP
    Lady of ashcott|||

    Best of Luck. What's your stakes?


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    #3
    Letyourselfgo
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    yesno1234 wrote: »
    Best of Luck. What's your stakes?

    Cheers, no set stakes as yet. I want to see what the profit/loss is to €1.


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    Nulty
    Registered Users Posts: 7,838 ✭✭✭Nulty


    Great to have you here!

    You know your allowed paper trade if you like. No one is suggesting you have to gamble real money.

    Prices are just concrete representations of peoples opinions and that is what gambling is essentially about. Whether or not your gambling money or not, your opinions and log are welcome. :)


    PS
    Thats cool, I'm stealing your table!


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    #5
    Letyourselfgo
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    Nulty wrote: »


    PS
    Thats cool, I'm stealing your table!

    :D
    It was inspired by yours

    Just looking through Saturdays cards and I'm a legend takes my eye in the 3:30 at ascot


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    Nulty
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    Actually I had a quick search on Google and got fed up...how do you do it?


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    Nulty wrote: »
    Actually I had a quick search on Google and got fed up...how do you do it?

    Just quote my table and remove the quote tags at the start and end and away you go and when you think your done but you can't see the table just hit refresh.


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    Nulty
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    I did it there but can I start the autonum on a number other than 1?


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    board_stiff
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    Best of luck with the log and as Nulty suggested put down some stakes. Even if you're not gambling real money it will allow you to track things especially if you want to back horses with different stakes based on your confidence.


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    Nulty
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    board_stiff wrote: »
    Best of luck with the log and as Nulty suggested put down some stakes. Even if you're not gambling real money it will allow you to track things especially if you want to back horses with different stakes based on your confidence.

    I'm guessing he'll play level stakes


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    #11
    Letyourselfgo
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    Todays Racing
    Horse|Result|BSP|P/L
    Sasheen 3:40 Ling||||
    Inde country 5:05 Wol||||
    Swimsuit 6:35 Wol||||
    Chinese democracy 7:05 Wol||||
    Cheveyo 7:35 Wol||||


    Future selections
    Horse|Date|Venue|Price
    I'm a legend|22/1/11|Ascot 3:30||
    Maktu or Major malarkey|22/1/11|Haydock 3:15|7.0, 13.0|
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    UrbanSea
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    Good luck letyourselfgo,hopefully you can pick out a few winners.


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    ghosttown
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    Best of luck with this, keep meaning to start up a log, but haven't been too impressed with racing recently. Will get one up before Chelenham though !


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    Letyourselfgo
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    UrbanSea wrote: »
    Good luck letyourselfgo,hopefully you can pick out a few winners.

    Can't thank posts yet so cheers, I hope people don't mind the tables just it'll make life easier for me when remembering upcoming bets. With 3 little ones in the house I can get easily distracted :D


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    UrbanSea
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    Letyourselfgo wrote: »
    Can't thank posts yet so cheers, I hope people don't mind the tables just it'll make life easier for me when remembering upcoming bets. With 3 little ones in the house I can get easily distracted :D

    Haha don't worry about it. Good for seeing how much you're up or down too. That's the bad thing about my log,I just try and keep a P/L after every bet.


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    Todays Racing
    Horse|Result|BSP|P/L
    Sasheen 3:40 Ling|5/11|8.47|-1|
    Inde country 5:05 Wol|2/9|11.97|-2|
    Swimsuit 6:35 Wol|3/6|9.16|-3|
    Chinese democracy 7:05 Wol|2/9|4.90|-4|
    Cheveyo 7:35 Wol|2/13|8.38|-5|


    Future selections
    Horse|Date|Venue|Price
    I'm a legend|22/1/11|Ascot 3:30|7.80|
    Maktu or Major malarkey|22/1/11|Haydock 3:15|7.0, 13.0|
    ||||
    ||||
    ||||



    -5 pts for the day but it included 3 x 2nds and I can't be too disappointed with sasheen, had a bad draw, maybe one to keep an eye on.


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    Racing selections
    Horse|Result|BSP|P/L
    Sasheen 3:40 Ling|5/11|8.47|-1|
    Inde country 5:05 Wol|2/9|11.97|-2|
    Swimsuit 6:35 Wol|3/6|9.16|-3|
    Chinese democracy 7:05 Wol|2/9|4.90|-4|
    Cheveyo 7:35 Wol|2/13|8.38|-5|
    Lordsbridge 12:40 Ascot||||
    Skeleton 12:50 Lingfield||||
    Flying squad 2:10 Wincanton||||
    I'm a legend 3:30 Ascot||||
    Sioux rising 3:40 Lingfield||||
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    Another up for consideration is Bugsy boy 3:25 Wincanton


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    Letyourselfgo
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    Letyourselfgo wrote: »

    Another up for consideration is Bugsy boy 3:25 Wincanton

    First win but I never put it in the table :D wins at 15


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    Racing selections
    Horse|Result|BSP|P/L
    Sasheen 3:40 Ling|5/11|8.47|-1|
    Inde country 5:05 Wol|2/9|11.97|-2|
    Swimsuit 6:35 Wol|3/6|9.16|-3|
    Chinese democracy 7:05 Wol|2/9|4.90|-4|
    Cheveyo 7:35 Wol|2/13|8.38|-5|
    Lordsbridge 12:40 Ascot|4/6|5.90|-6|
    Skeleton 12:50 Lingfield|9/9|12.50|-7|
    Flying squad 2:10 Wincanton|PU|9.80|-8|
    I'm a legend 3:30 Ascot|2/11|7.0|-9|
    Sioux rising 3:40 Lingfield|3/8|5.01|-10|
    ||||


    Again can't be too annoyed, a couple of places at the end and I'm a legend was going well till a big mistake 3 out. Disappointment of the day was skeleton, given a terrible ride, in my opinion. I backed everything today including bugsy boy with a strategy of 1 pt the win and 2 pts the place, so I'll do the maths later and see if it's a strategy worth exploring.


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    Racing selections
    Horse|Result|BSP|P/L
    Sasheen 3:40 Ling|5/11|8.47|-1|
    Inde country 5:05 Wol|2/9|11.97|-2|
    Swimsuit 6:35 Wol|3/6|9.16|-3|
    Chinese democracy 7:05 Wol|2/9|4.90|-4|
    Cheveyo 7:35 Wol|2/13|8.38|-5|
    Lordsbridge 12:40 Ascot|4/6|5.90|-6|
    Skeleton 12:50 Lingfield|9/9|12.50|-7|
    Flying squad 2:10 Wincanton|PU|9.80|-8|
    I'm a legend 3:30 Ascot|2/11|7.0|-9|
    Sioux rising 3:40 Lingfield|3/8|5.01|-10|
    What a steel 1:50 Market rasen||||
    Kinkeel 2:00 Towcester||||
    Norville 2:10 Kempton||||
    Sailors sovereign 2:30 Towcester||||
    Fujin dancer 3:25 Market rasen||||
    Queenstown lad 4:05 Towcester||||
    Turjuman 4:15 Kempton||||


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    #21
    Letyourselfgo
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    Just worked out the maths for my 11 bets starting yesterday using 1 point the win and 2 points the place and it puts me at +15.48 obviously a huge chunk of this is down to bugsy boy.
    Any thoughts on this type of strategy would be much appreciated.


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    This is the new table for now, it's about making money and I'm having alot of placed selections so just curious to see what P/L would be for the following strategies.

    Racing selections
    Horse|Result|BSP|BPSP|Level stakes|1pt win, 2pts place|1pt Place only
    Sasheen 3:40 Ling|5/11|8.47|2.84|-1|-3|-1|
    Inde country 5:05 Wol|2/9|11.97|2.66|-2|-0.68|+0.66|
    Swimsuit 6:35 Wol|3/6|9.16|4.0|-3|-3.68|-0.34|
    Chinese democracy 7:05 Wol|2/9|4.90|1.90|-4|-2.88|+0.56|
    Cheveyo 7:35 Wol|2/13|8.38|2.70|-5|-0.48|+2.26|
    Lordsbridge 12:40 Ascot|4/6|5.90|2.78|-6|-3.48|+1.26|
    Skeleton 12:50 Lingfield|9/9|12.50|2.82|-7|-6.48|+0.26|
    Flying squad 2:10 Wincanton|PU|9.80|3.40|-8|-9.48|-0.74|
    I'm a legend 3:30 Ascot|2/11|7.0|2.28|-9|-7.92|+0.54|
    Sioux rising 3:40 Lingfield|3/8|5.01|2.20|-10|-6.52|+1.74|
    What a steel 1:50 Market rasen|3/16|6.36|2.14|-11|-5.24|+2.88|
    Kinkeel 2:00 Towcester|1/7|5.90|3.05|-6.1|+3.76|+4.93|
    Norville 2:10 Kempton|5/9|6.69|2.06|-7.1|+0.76|+3.93|
    Sailors sovereign 2:30 Towcester|PU|8.0|2.42|-8.1|-2.24|+2.93|
    Fujin dancer 3:25 Market rasen|3/12|22.99|6.40|-9.1|+7.56|+8.33|
    Queenstown lad 4:05 Towcester|3/14|6.60|2.30|-10.1|+9.16|+9.63|
    Turjuman 4:15 Kempton|3/8|3.40|1.46|-11.1|+9.08|+10.09|


    Not too bad a week for me (17 races, 1 win, 8 places and 8 losers), I'll continue monitoring all these strategies for next week


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    Racing selections
    Horse|Result|BSP|BPSP|Level stakes|1pt win, 2pts place|1pt Place only
    Sasheen 3:40 Ling|5/11|8.47|2.84|-1|-3|-1|
    Inde country 5:05 Wol|2/9|11.97|2.66|-2|-0.68|+0.66|
    Swimsuit 6:35 Wol|3/6|9.16|4.0|-3|-3.68|-0.34|
    Chinese democracy 7:05 Wol|2/9|4.90|1.90|-4|-2.88|+0.56|
    Cheveyo 7:35 Wol|2/13|8.38|2.70|-5|-0.48|+2.26|
    Lordsbridge 12:40 Ascot|4/6|5.90|2.78|-6|-3.48|+1.26|
    Skeleton 12:50 Lingfield|9/9|12.50|2.82|-7|-6.48|+0.26|
    Flying squad 2:10 Wincanton|PU|9.80|3.40|-8|-9.48|-0.74|
    I'm a legend 3:30 Ascot|2/11|7.0|2.28|-9|-7.92|+0.54|
    Sioux rising 3:40 Lingfield|3/8|5.01|2.20|-10|-6.52|+1.74|
    What a steel 1:50 Market rasen|3/16|6.36|2.14|-11|-5.24|+2.88|
    Kinkeel 2:00 Towcester|1/7|5.90|3.05|-6.1|+3.76|+4.93|
    Norville 2:10 Kempton|5/9|6.69|2.06|-7.1|+0.76|+3.93|
    Sailors sovereign 2:30 Towcester|PU|8.0|2.42|-8.1|-2.24|+2.93|
    Fujin dancer 3:25 Market rasen|3/12|22.99|6.40|-9.1|+7.56|+8.33|
    Queenstown lad 4:05 Towcester|3/14|6.60|2.30|-10.1|+9.16|+9.63|
    Turjuman 4:15 Kempton|3/8|3.40|1.46|-11.1|+9.08|+10.09|
    Apache brave 1:25 Wetherby|||||||
    Itwasonlyakiss 2:10 Kempton|||||||
    Torteval 2:20 Wolverhampton|||||||
    Astrodiva 2:45 Kempton|||||||
    Sushailah 3:20 Kempton|||||||
    Work boy 3:40 Wetherby|||||||
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    A few for tomorrow.
    Also considering chilli green and tewin wood in the 3:50 at Kempton


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    #24
    Letyourselfgo
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    Chilli green wins the 3:50 and Tewin wood was a NR in the same race.
    I've updated the table with tomorrows selections.

    Racing selections
    Horse|Result|BSP|BPSP|Level stakes|1pt win, 2pts place|1pt Place only
    Sasheen 3:40 Ling|5/11|8.47|2.84|-1|-3|-1|
    Inde country 5:05 Wol|2/9|11.97|2.66|-2|-0.68|+0.66|
    Swimsuit 6:35 Wol|3/6|9.16|4.0|-3|-3.68|-0.34|
    Chinese democracy 7:05 Wol|2/9|4.90|1.90|-4|-2.88|+0.56|
    Cheveyo 7:35 Wol|2/13|8.38|2.70|-5|-0.48|+2.26|
    Lordsbridge 12:40 Ascot|4/6|5.90|2.78|-6|-3.48|+1.26|
    Skeleton 12:50 Lingfield|9/9|12.50|2.82|-7|-6.48|+0.26|
    Flying squad 2:10 Wincanton|PU|9.80|3.40|-8|-9.48|-0.74|
    I'm a legend 3:30 Ascot|2/11|7.0|2.28|-9|-7.92|+0.54|
    Sioux rising 3:40 Lingfield|3/8|5.01|2.20|-10|-6.52|+1.74|
    What a steel 1:50 Market rasen|3/16|6.36|2.14|-11|-5.24|+2.88|
    Kinkeel 2:00 Towcester|1/7|5.90|3.05|-6.1|+3.76|+4.93|
    Norville 2:10 Kempton|5/9|6.69|2.06|-7.1|+0.76|+3.93|
    Sailors sovereign 2:30 Towcester|PU|8.0|2.42|-8.1|-2.24|+2.93|
    Fujin dancer 3:25 Market rasen|3/12|22.99|6.40|-9.1|+7.56|+8.33|
    Queenstown lad 4:05 Towcester|3/14|6.60|2.30|-10.1|+9.16|+9.63|
    Turjuman 4:15 Kempton|3/8|3.40|1.46|-11.1|+9.08|+10.09|
    Apache brave 1:25 Wetherby|4/6|4.0|2.36|-12.1|+6.08|+9.09|
    Itwasonlyakiss 2:10 Kempton|8/10|9.45|2.54|-13.1|+3.08|+8.09|
    Torteval 2:20 Wolverhampton|3/7|3.53|1.32|-14.1|+2.72|+8.41|
    Astrodiva 2:45 Kempton|9/14|12.50|4.10|-15.1|-0.28|+7.41|
    Sushailah 3:20 Kempton|3/11|18.50|5.70|-16.1|+8.12|+12.11|
    Work boy 3:40 Wetherby|1/6|4.50|2.34|-12.60|+14.32|+13.45|
    Gold story 12:50 Sth|||||||
    Positivity 1:50 Sth|||||||
    Donald will do 2:10 Leic|||||||
    Tomintoul star 2:20 Sth|||||||
    Waveband 2:50 Sth|||||||
    Midnight diamond 3:00 Sedge|||||||
    Hever road 3:40 Leic|||||||
    Seasonselite 4:10 Leic|||||||
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    #25
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    Really annoyed at the ATR site, I checked what they wrote about draw advantage for gold story and they had draw advantage none, bull crap as he was clearly at a disadvantage and was forced wide through out the whole race. I must find another site to help me understand the draws.


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    #26
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    Well after 4 placed horses from 5 selections Midnight diamond wins easily, I had him at 7.50 but I think he went off at 6.40.


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    Just if anyone is interested I put my selections up the night before, there in the bottom of the table, probably wasn't clear.


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    Nulty
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    Letyourselfgo wrote: »
    Really annoyed at the ATR site, I checked what they wrote about draw advantage for gold story and they had draw advantage none, bull crap as he was clearly at a disadvantage and was forced wide through out the whole race. I must find another site to help me understand the draws.


    If you want to know about draw advantage in a given race, watch a replay of a previous race over course and distance. Its not the quickest or easiest way but its the best way.


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    Letyourselfgo
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    Cheers nulty, good idea, I sent Boycie a mail and he disagreed pointing out that the winner came from stall 10 but I still think I'm right having watched the race again.

    Good day for placing again, really thought Hever road was going to get the 3rd spot for a while, would be nice to get some winners and get that red down.

    I'll keep up the experiment as I think it's very interesting and as things stand I know what way I'll be betting in the future, any thoughts welcome

    So far 31 selections, 3 winners, 15 placed, 13 losers

    Racing selections
    Horse|Result|BSP|BPSP|Level stakes|1pt win, 2pts place|1pt Place only
    Sasheen 3:40 Ling|5/11|8.47|2.84|-1|-3|-1|
    Inde country 5:05 Wol|2/9|11.97|2.66|-2|-0.68|+0.66|
    Swimsuit 6:35 Wol|3/6|9.16|4.0|-3|-3.68|-0.34|
    Chinese democracy 7:05 Wol|2/9|4.90|1.90|-4|-2.88|+0.56|
    Cheveyo 7:35 Wol|2/13|8.38|2.70|-5|-0.48|+2.26|
    Lordsbridge 12:40 Ascot|4/6|5.90|2.78|-6|-3.48|+1.26|
    Skeleton 12:50 Lingfield|9/9|12.50|2.82|-7|-6.48|+0.26|
    Flying squad 2:10 Wincanton|PU|9.80|3.40|-8|-9.48|-0.74|
    I'm a legend 3:30 Ascot|2/11|7.0|2.28|-9|-7.92|+0.54|
    Sioux rising 3:40 Lingfield|3/8|5.01|2.20|-10|-6.52|+1.74|
    What a steel 1:50 Market rasen|3/16|6.36|2.14|-11|-5.24|+2.88|
    Kinkeel 2:00 Towcester|1/7|5.90|3.05|-6.1|+3.76|+4.93|
    Norville 2:10 Kempton|5/9|6.69|2.06|-7.1|+0.76|+3.93|
    Sailors sovereign 2:30 Towcester|PU|8.0|2.42|-8.1|-2.24|+2.93|
    Fujin dancer 3:25 Market rasen|3/12|22.99|6.40|-9.1|+7.56|+8.33|
    Queenstown lad 4:05 Towcester|3/14|6.60|2.30|-10.1|+9.16|+9.63|
    Turjuman 4:15 Kempton|3/8|3.40|1.46|-11.1|+9.08|+10.09|
    Apache brave 1:25 Wetherby|4/6|4.0|2.36|-12.1|+6.08|+9.09|
    Itwasonlyakiss 2:10 Kempton|8/10|9.45|2.54|-13.1|+3.08|+8.09|
    Torteval 2:20 Wolverhampton|3/7|3.53|1.32|-14.1|+2.72|+8.41|
    Astrodiva 2:45 Kempton|9/14|12.50|4.10|-15.1|-0.28|+7.41|
    Sushailah 3:20 Kempton|3/11|18.50|5.70|-16.1|+8.12|+12.11|
    Work boy 3:40 Wetherby|1/6|4.50|2.34|-12.60|+14.32|+13.45|
    Gold story 12:50 Sth|2/12|4.20|1.81|-13.60|+16.94|+14.26|
    Positivity 1:50 Sth|4/9|6.0|1.84|-14.60|+13.94|+13.26|
    Donald will do 2:10 Leic|3/10|10.50|3.15|-15.60|+19.24|+15.41|
    Tomintoul star 2:20 Sth|3/10|4.30|1.75|-16.60|+21.74|+16.16|
    Waveband 2:50 Sth|2/6|2.57|1.62|-17.60|+21.98|+16.78|
    Midnight diamond 3:00 Sedge|1/12|6.4|2.52|-12.20|+30.42|+18.30|
    Hever road 3:40 Leic|4/10|22.81|5.10|-13.20|+27.42|+17.30|
    Seasonselite 4:10 Leic|F|6.40|2.62|-14.20|+24.42|+16.30|
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    Letyourselfgo
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    A few for tomorrow, still have to look in Limerick, I'll add these selections to the bigger table at the end of tomorrows racing.

    Tomorrows Racing selections
    Horse|Result|BSP|BPSP|Level stakes|1pt win, 2pts place|1pt Place only
    Chineses democracy 1:25 Lingfield|||||||
    Cheveyo 2:25 Lingfield|||||||
    Sonara 3:05 Muss|||||||
    Persian prince 3:35 Muss|||||||
    Talenti 3:45 Muss|||||||
    Ice road trucker 5:35 Kempton|||||||
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    Letyourselfgo
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    Letyourselfgo wrote: »
    A few for tomorrow, still have to look in Limerick, I'll add these selections to the bigger table at the end of tomorrows racing.

    Tomorrows Racing selections
    Horse|Result|BSP|BPSP|Level stakes|1pt win, 2pts place|1pt Place only
    Chineses democracy 1:25 Lingfield|||||||
    Cheveyo 2:25 Lingfield|||||||
    Sonara 3:05 Muss|||||||
    Persian prince 3:35 Muss|||||||
    Talenti 3:45 Muss|||||||
    Ice road trucker 5:35 Kempton|||||||
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    Cheveyo is a NR so I'm going to replace it with Radiator rooney.


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