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Route for aircraft deliveries to European carriers

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  • 25-05-2010 2:06pm
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    useless
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    I was just wondering if anyone knows the route say, Ryanair's brand new 737's take from the factory in Washington to Dublin/their new base in Europe. I'd have thought they wouldnt have the range to cover the North Atlantic from the east coast of the US, or even Canada.
    Similar story for the smaller planes that Embraer makes in Brazil- how do they route from the factory to their new owners in Europe?

    Just curious!


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    Storm 10
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    Smaller aircraft route across the Atlantic through Gander in Newfoundland and then into Shannon to refuel if required, they would refuel in the US on the way from Brazil, I am not sure about Ryanair aircraft but as they would have no passengers or baggage they would be very light thus increasing their range.


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    phonypony
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    although they perhaps do stop on the delivery flight, the 737-800 fully fuelled and with no passengers or baggage and all that duty-free will quite easily make the trip from Seattle. It's just a guess but on smaller aircraft like the Embraer they may make use of extra tanks to reduce the number of legs...


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    donkey balls
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    the b737 can do the USA-Europe with out having to stop over for fuel,the likes of C170& pa28 normally route over gander, Iceland then down into Europe with extra fuel tamks.


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    EchoIndia
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    Embraer aircraft usually ferry across the South Atlantic from Brazil to West Africa or the Canaries. I'm not sure of the "jumping-off point" in Brazil but Recife seems a likely candidate. As a rule, Boeings for customers in Western Europe make the delivery flight in one hop from Seattle, while those going further afield (e.g Eastern Europe or the Middle East typically stop in Eastern Canada (usually Gander or Goose Bay) before routeing onwards. The actual route is a matter of choice for the operator involved, e.g. a lot of the Air India Express 737s have passed through Birmingham, perhaps because it is an airport served by Air India.

    Here is the route for the most recent Ryanair 737 delivery. Note that as a rule the aircraft climb to FL390 or 410 quite early in the lfight, for maximum fuel economy:

    http://flightaware.com/live/flight/RYR800K


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    FlutterinBantam
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    useless wrote: »
    I was just wondering if anyone knows the route say, Ryanair's brand new 737's take from the factory in Washington to Dublin/their new base in Europe. I'd have thought they wouldnt have the range to cover the North Atlantic from the east coast of the US, or even Canada.
    Similar story for the smaller planes that Embraer makes in Brazil- how do they route from the factory to their new owners in Europe?

    Just curious!


    No problem crossing the Atlantic.

    The less fuel efficient will use Goose Bay or Gander and route near Keflavik if winds are not favourable.

    Should make western Europe fairly easily.


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    highlydebased
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    AFAIK the longest nonstop was Boeing Field-Prague with a Skyeurope B737.


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    bazzachazza
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    BA's Emb190's routed Sao Jose Dos Campos-Recife-Reina Sofia (GCTS)-Exeter whereas their 170's didn't have the legs and only made it to Amilcar Cabral (GVAC) after Recife.


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    Our man in Havana
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    It must have been on fumes by the time it landed in Prague.


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    CaptainSkidmark
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    wonder where KLM stop the 737-800 for fuel from Seattle?

    Or the Fokker route(lol)


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