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Lada comeback

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  • 08-05-2010 11:49am
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    mondeo
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    Heard on the radio the other day that Lada is making a possible comeback to the sales room in ireland & UK. They were talking 7-8k per car, terrible news if it happens :D


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    Berty
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    Why is it terrible?

    The Dacia is due to come to Ireland as well and if it does I will whole hearthly welcome it.


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    Owen
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    Finally, a use for all those Lada paint samples I have!


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    Poly
    Registered Users Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Poly


    I'd love to see the auld Lada / Fiat 128 type back.
    It was a great auld jammer


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    coolbeans
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    The Niva was a very tough, reliable and dare I say it...even cool machine. I wouldn't get too nostalgic about the rest though. There's no point in trying to polish a turd.


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    vectra
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    I loved the sports ones with the sunroofs
    They made handy skips :D


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    GTE
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    I thought this would be a good while off but I was watching the Formula one today and the works Renault team have a Lada logo on the car!

    Interesting times are approaching.
    Lada F1 haha


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    Henry Ford III
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    Kia Rio heads upmarket.


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    mickdw
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    They have had some new designs on show over the last while.Nothing like the old ladas athough I think the interiors were woeful.

    2lafxps.jpg


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    mondeo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,668 ✭✭✭mondeo


    Berty wrote: »
    Why is it terrible?

    The Dacia is due to come to Ireland as well and if it does I will whole hearthly welcome it.

    I remember the 80's very well and the neighbour push starting his red lada every third morning...honest to god it was funny.

    It would be terrible in a funny sort of way to see Lada branded cars appearing here. Would not bet on them being very up to date with latest safety mods and cons. They would be crude cheap motoring and thats it. Four wheels and a seat kind of thing & I wish them luck lol. :)


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    keithclancy
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    mondeo wrote: »
    I remember the 80's very well and the neighbour push starting his red lada every third morning...honest to god it was funny.

    It would be terrible in a funny sort of way to see Lada branded cars appearing here. Would not bet on them being very up to date with latest safety mods and cons. They would be crude cheap motoring and thats it. Four wheels and a seat kind of thing & I wish them luck lol. :)

    Like a Skoda you mean :) ?


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    Fishtits
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    I once opted for a Lada Niva from the company car pool (overseas)

    It lasted all of a day and a half around town (Skopje) before it got stuck in third gear...

    Someone mentioned Dacia... nowt to do with Lada, low cost Renault, primarily Turkish...

    I Doubt the established importers here are quaking in their boots...


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    vectra
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    keithclancy wrote: »
    Like a Skoda you mean :) ?

    I remember the old Volvo's were like that
    Push them....Kick them .. Curse them..eventually they would go.:D


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    Mycroft H
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    I seem to remember that skoda had the same reputation....... Just look at them now!

    If they can make reliable cheap cars, well then the best of luck to them


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    bladebrew
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    landyman wrote: »
    I seem to remember that skoda had the same reputation....... Just look at them now!

    If they can make reliable cheap cars, well then the best of luck to them

    that is a huge problem though, to turn a company reputation around,
    my dad drives a 07 avensis and was thinking about changing it,i suggested an octavia, he said he wouldnt drive a skoda,i also suggested an isignia, but he had a dodgy vectra years ago so he wont buy an opel, he also wont drive another ford due to an engine seizure in a 3 year old escort in 97, so he wants a new avensis:(


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    mondeo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,668 ✭✭✭mondeo


    landyman wrote: »
    I seem to remember that skoda had the same reputation....... Just look at them now!

    If they can make reliable cheap cars, well then the best of luck to them

    Skoda had a dodgy reputation in the 80's but not near as vicious as the Lada...

    If some major car manufacturer were to buy Lada and turn them around well that would be interesting. Would take years for the Stigma attached to the name to go away.

    Heard a great Lada joke the other day.....What do you call a Lada with a double exhaust?......................... A wheel barrow:D hehe I'm still laughing at that.


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    Guy:Incognito
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    AFAIK the story about the new Lada's said it was Renault that was doing hem. If so I dont get what they are at. Dacia are cheaper Renaults and are due to be launched here so where do these new Lada'ss fit in? Below Dacia? That makes Dacia the midrange cheap car and the actual badged Renaults the standard stuff?


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    Stoolbend
    Registered Users Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭Stoolbend


    lada_c_geneva.JPG

    I've seen worse!

    If they're cheap and people buy them they might help keep me in a job!:D


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    BlackWizard
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    They have one of the most inconic brand names in the car industry. People who don't know much about cars have heard of the name Lada.

    Money can't buy that sort of thing. But money can build a car with a decent warranty. If it turns out to be reliable, which it probably will be, I don't see why they can't do really were here. Renault used to be very dodgy with reliability too. But 5 or so years later and they are back on track with most people putting their past behind them.

    http://www.autoblog.com/photos/lada-c-concept/#179046


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    BrianD3
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    BlackWizard wrote: »
    They have one of the most inconic brand names in the car industry. People who don't know much about cars have heard of the name Lada.

    Money can't buy that sort of thing. But money can build a car with a decent warranty. If it turns out to be reliable, which it probably will be, I don't see why they can't do really were here. Renault used to be very dodgy with reliability too. But 5 or so years later and they are back on track with most people putting their past behind them.

    http://www.autoblog.com/photos/lada-c-concept/#179046
    Yep, and look what Renault has done for Dacia, they are are selling like hotcakes in Europe. And in the latest ADAC reliability report, the Logan/Sandero has been deemed more reliable than the much more expensive Honda Civic and Jazz and also more reliable than some other cars with big reputations.


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    standardtoaster
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    BrianD3 wrote: »
    Yep, and look what Renault has done for Dacia, they are are selling like hotcakes in Europe. And in the latest ADAC reliability report, the Logan/Sandero has been deemed more reliable than the much more expensive Honda Civic and Jazz and also more reliable than some other cars with big reputations.

    Had a Dacia Logan rental for a week last year while on the continent, possibly the reason they are so relaible is because the only thing that can go wrong is the engine breaking.
    You can see by the models that Renault have put their mark on these in my opinion they are about 4/5 years behind the actual Renault models(style look wise), and yes under the hood was an aul Renault engine.

    There are literally no other "extras" in the car e.g the car just about had a radio(model not disimiliar to what you would have found in the 94/95 puntos), even some of the buttons didn't have symbols on them haha, no electric windows and this was a (2008 model), oh no power steering, and the grip on the steering wheel was about as thick as a basketball hoop. Put it this way way when I came home I appreciated my 8 year old Corsa (and thats saying something!!).

    Personally I think they should have left them in Romania, but then again, they are perfect in a recession.


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    pcardin
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    bladebrew wrote: »
    that is a huge problem though, to turn a company reputation around,
    my dad drives a 07 avensis and was thinking about changing it,i suggested an octavia, he said he wouldnt drive a skoda,i also suggested an isignia, but he had a dodgy vectra years ago so he wont buy an opel, he also wont drive another ford due to an engine seizure in a 3 year old escort in 97, so he wants a new avensis:(

    Hilarious...going by his "genius" car choosing plan he will not consider even Toyota if something will happen with this one. Soon there will be only Dublin Bus for him :D
    On the other hand Lada is sh1t anyway and not worth even considering.


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    Mycroft H
    Registered Users Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    pcardin wrote: »
    Hilarious...going by his "genius" car choosing plan he will not consider even Toyota if something will happen with this one. Soon thre will be only Dublin Bus for him :D
    On the other hand Lada is sh1t anyway and not worth even considering.

    Who knows if the new lada will be rubbish? Its a bit presumptuous to say so at this stage?


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    Guy:Incognito
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    standardtoaster wrote: »
    Had a Dacia Logan rental for a week last year while on the continent, possibly the reason they are so relaible is because the only thing that can go wrong is the engine breaking.
    You can see by the models that Renault have put their mark on these in my opinion they are about 4/5 years behind the actual Renault models(style look wise), and yes under the hood was an aul Renault engine.

    There are literally no other "extras" in the car e.g the car just about had a radio(model not disimiliar to what you would have found in the 94/95 puntos), even some of the buttons didn't have symbols on them haha, no electric windows and this was a (2008 model), oh no power steering, and the grip on the steering wheel was about as thick as a basketball hoop. Put it this way way when I came home I appreciated my 8 year old Corsa (and thats saying something!!).

    Personally I think they should have left them in Romania, but then again, they are perfect in a recession.


    Didnt seem to do the Japs any harm in the 90's.

    Not hard to build a reliable car with nothing in it.:)


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    Aidan_M_M
    Registered Users Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭Aidan_M_M


    Some Ladas are cool... they made great little rally cars... here's one I re-painted earlier .

    allsorts022Small.jpg


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    CianRyan
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    A lot of cars that are running great and being sold in great numbers now were terrible back in the 80's/90's, it's very unfair to say Lada will be the same ****e bags they use to be.

    My Dad had a Lada back when I was much younger. Couldn't tell you much about it, other than it was red, I could never open the back door and it never broke down.
    We upgraded to an Almera, think it was a '00 model and it was like luxury.

    Pretty sure the Lada was '90 and it was baught from new. We kept it 'till about 2002 I think. I can barely remember last week...The Lada though, apart from being minimal and the back door being hard to open(I was probably about 8-10 when I couldn't open it), it never broke down. Definitely did not deserve the awful rep it got, how ever ugly it was.


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    colm_mcm
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    Fishtits wrote: »
    Someone mentioned Dacia... nowt to do with Lada, low cost Renault, primarily Turkish...
    .

    national car of Romania actually!


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    2 Espressi
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    Aidan_M_M wrote: »
    Some Ladas are cool... they made great little rally cars... here's one I re-painted earlier .

    allsorts022Small.jpg

    131 Abarth Kit? Looks pretty good!


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    galwaytt
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    Aidan_M_M wrote: »
    Some Ladas are cool... they made great little rally cars... here's one I re-painted earlier .

    allsorts022Small.jpg

    I see 131 Abarth-esque arches and front spoiler there !!

    They're not the only East European people who know how to make a car go well.......oh, and the 3rd pic: they used to put all 3 cars IN the bus (they installed a ramp where the back window was......) . And they all slept in it, as well.........!! No Bernie Ecclestone 'notions' there ! (That bus and cars came to the Galway Rally one year...)

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    #30
    Aidan_M_M
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    Not 131 , but closely styled on it , by Lada themselves . It's a genuine VFTS car , they were actually rallied as Group B cars .


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    Blisterman
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    Was in the suburbs of Sofia in Bulgaria, and every second car was a 1980's Lada.

    I remember mid 90's, there were tons of Lada jokes around, and yet I very rarely saw anyone driving one.


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