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New Retro Gameshop in Dublin

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    #32
    CathalDublin
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    I've been thinking alot about doing something similar
    Its hard to know if it will work or not, you would probably have to sell games of today aswell to keep profits up. As for sourcing the games I'd say large collections on ebay, advertisements in buyandsell/gumtree/adverts/etc.


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    #33
    97i9y3941
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    i woundnt say so,being ireland and a nation of begrudgers we woundnt pay over the odds *let alone we whinge about the prices on ebay sometimes...


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    #34
    Butch Cassidy
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    Ye know what I think is weird is that there's Ps2 and Xbox original games that still command a respectful price yet the game shops by offering peanuts for them in trade-in and then stopping trading in them - such as the case with Xbox- they've helped make Xbox and PS2 games "retro" in a way. Or at least they will soon in the case of the PS2 games.


    Why can't any of the game shops here do like Gamestation in Britain do. Keep doing trades on prev. gen games but maybe only good/valuable/playable ones. So weed out all the football and sports games and only take in the good stuff.

    I find it bizarre that in a few months it's possible that someone will walk in to a game shop with a copy of Ico or MGS Subsistence or Rez and they'll be turned away "Nope, we don't do trade-ins on PS2 games anymore ". *points at sign that reads 'We now longer accept trade ins for PS2'*


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    #35
    Butch Cassidy
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    Oh, Marvel vs. Capcom 2 is another one.

    I think there were some PS2 games either reprinted last year at some point or Gamestop just got dozens of them in cause I remember they had a few titles at about 15quid each. MGS2 Substance was one of them.


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    #36
    ghostchant
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    I just wish Gamestop sold preowned GBA games. The DS Lite/Phat still plays them, and most of the Gamestops in the states still stock them too, bought a whole lot there in the last few months


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    #37
    Atavan-Halen
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    The American Gamestops still stock Gamecube and Xbox games, although I think they're trying to get rid of them atm.


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    #38
    ghostchant
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    Yeah bought a US gamecube at CEX in Boston and bought a few games in gamestop, pretty good value at the moment, as like you say they're trying to get rid of it all. Still a lot of good titles, boxed copy of Ikaruga was in one of them, but already had the PAL version


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    #39
    Atavan-Halen
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    ghostchant wrote: »
    Yeah bought a US gamecube at CEX in Boston and bought a few games in gamestop, pretty good value at the moment, as like you say they're trying to get rid of it all. Still a lot of good titles, boxed copy of Ikaruga was in one of them, but already had the PAL version

    You should have picked it up anyway!


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    #40
    ghostchant
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    I seriously considered it but was $20 for a game I essentially already have a mint copy of. I'm scared to calculate how much money I've spent on games here in the last 4 months, good thing I'm coming home today! On a related note, packing is a pain in the ass


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    #41
    Atavan-Halen
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    Ah yes, it can be hard to justify something like that. Safe journey home!


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    #42
    Butch Cassidy
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    The one on Henry St had a bizarre box full of Gamecube consoles and a few Playstations for sale. They didn't advertise them in the shop though, you had to ask which was weird :confused:


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    #43
    readyletsgo
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    Butch Cassidy wrote: »
    The one on Henry St had a bizarre box full of Gamecube consoles and a few Playstations for sale. They didn't advertise them in the shop though, you had to ask which was weird :confused:


    Where in the shop? up stairs was it?
    Never see any gamecube games in shops except for in that 2nd hand place on Talbot St but he has ALL format games from €15 and up for a lot of rubbish games. Wouldnt really think he has a big turn over.
    Although he has a great selection of Dreamcast games must be said!


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    #44
    Butch Cassidy
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    readyletsgo wrote: »
    Where in the shop? up stairs was it?
    Never see any gamecube games in shops except for in that 2nd hand place on Talbot St but he has ALL format games from €15 and up for a lot of rubbish games. Wouldnt really think he has a big turn over.
    Although he has a great selection of Dreamcast games must be said!
    Sorry, the Gamestop last year had a few boxed Gamecubes. Pretty sure they were second hand. Anytime I went in there I saw a big storage box on the floor in the upstairs DVD bit and there was a few GAmecubes in it.

    I'd say they're long gone now.
    That Gamestop also had dozens and dozens of Fifa and LMA manager games for Xbox - I got Tron 2.0 & Ninja Gaiden for three quid:cool:. These two are long gone as well as the Rogue Spear and rayman Rush games they had.


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    #45
    readyletsgo
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    Ah ok, pity.
    I always thought it was weird the way no gamestops or other gaming shops re-stocked up on GCN and Xbox games seeing as they are both backwards compat, with a recession going on out there people would buy them (excluding sports games of course) as they are a lot cheaper than Wii/360 games...


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    #46
    Augmerson
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    Butch Cassidy wrote: »
    Sorry, the Gamestop last year had a few boxed Gamecubes. Pretty sure they were second hand. Anytime I went in there I saw a big storage box on the floor in the upstairs DVD bit and there was a few GAmecubes in it.

    I'd say they're long gone now.
    That Gamestop also had dozens and dozens of Fifa and LMA manager games for Xbox - I got Tron 2.0 & Ninja Gaiden for three quid:cool:. These two are long gone as well as the Rogue Spear and rayman Rush games they had.

    Raging now I didn't take a picture of the stall with like 200 copies of Rogue Spear and Raymush Rush. How the **** did they end up with so many copies of the same game?

    I think the major videogame retailers here like Game and Gamestop shot themselves in the foot by no longer trading Dreamcast, Gamecube, Xbox and GBA games.


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    #47
    CiDeRmAn
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    ghostchant wrote: »
    I just wish Gamestop sold preowned GBA games. The DS Lite/Phat still plays them, and most of the Gamestops in the states still stock them too, bought a whole lot there in the last few months

    They did, they had a huge box of them behind the counter back at the start of 2009, and they were shifting them for a fiver each, I picked up a ton of great games, Guardian Heroes Advance, Duke Nukem Advance, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Zero, lots and lots of very cheap great games.


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    #48
    o1s1n
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    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    They did, they had a huge box of them behind the counter back at the start of 2009, and they were shifting them for a fiver each, I picked up a ton of great games, Guardian Heroes Advance, Duke Nukem Advance, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Zero, lots and lots of very cheap great games.

    Why are they treating old games like porn? Get it out on the shelves!


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    #49
    mondeo
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    I cannot imagine a proper retro store in Dublin. I came across a similar enterprise in city centre asking ridiculous money for something I can get on ebay for pennies...

    Between 10 & 15 euro for a megadrive game not even in a box.... on yer bike chancing their legs :rolleyes:

    A master system for 70 odd euro without a promise that it works...I got two of them in a charity shop for a couple of euro each and their perfect. I bet if they had found them they would be looking for a greedy little profit for them.


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    #50
    Butch Cassidy
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    readyletsgo wrote: »
    Where in the shop? up stairs was it?
    Never see any gamecube games in shops except for in that 2nd hand place on Talbot St but he has ALL format games from €15 and up for a lot of rubbish games. Wouldnt really think he has a big turn over.
    Although he has a great selection of Dreamcast games must be said!

    Urgh, that Talbot St shop is awful. Fifa games for 15quid like! Most of what he has is crap and it's so overpriced that you feel like asking the guy does he have a clue what he's doing. Some of the games haev been there so long that there's layers upon layers of dust that have formed over what must be nearly 10 years!
    readyletsgo wrote: »
    Ah ok, pity.
    I always thought it was weird the way no gamestops or other gaming shops re-stocked up on GCN and Xbox games seeing as they are both backwards compat, with a recession going on out there people would buy them (excluding sports games of course) as they are a lot cheaper than Wii/360 games...


    Just imagine someone with a copy of Twin Snakes going in to Gamestop ands aying "Hi, can I trade this in, what'll you give me for it?"

    The response will be "nope, don't trade in Gamecube games, go away" when in reality they could give the guy 15quid, sell it for 30 and it's happy days! It's just bizarre.
    Augmerson wrote: »
    Raging now I didn't take a picture of the stall with like 200 copies of Rogue Spear and Raymush Rush. How the **** did they end up with so many copies of the same game?

    I don't quite know how they got the games or where they got them from or even why. I'd suspectthey were got from some UK company in the UK that would've gone into liquidation as that's where Gamestop are getting a lot of stock like that - remember all them copies of Predator 2 lying around? Yep, bought from a company going out of business. Same goes with some of the PS2 games they're getting in. I posted the other day about Sly2, they got in a few copies of that on PS2 from some crowd in England that went out of business according to one manager I asked.

    I was really excited when I saw them Rayman Rush and Rogue Spear games cause I thought "cool they're still open to selling prev. gen games" and that it might be the start of them getting in similar deals. Obviously not as they got in two fairly poor games that they couldn't sell even at a Euro or two for both games. It's part of the reason I think Irish businesses are a bit crap at business - they don't know what people want and they just go on the basis of "well if it sells then we've won and if it doesn't fúck trying that again". So I doubt we'll see them getting in more PS1 games :(. I'd like to know were there or are there any other prev. gen games they have had the oppurtunity to buy but didn't because of the Rayman/Rainbow 6 fiasco.


    Augmerson wrote: »
    I think the major videogame retailers here like Game and Gamestop shot themselves in the foot by no longer trading Dreamcast, Gamecube, Xbox and GBA games.


    They did shoot themselves inthe foot and I don't bloody understand the mentality! Fair enough they don't want to get stuck with a million copies of Fifa 2002 but they could weed all the shíte out that wouldn't sell and only trade in the good stuff that is A) valuable and B) playable ie. sellable.
    o1s1n wrote: »
    Why are they treating old games like porn? Get it out on the shelves!


    HAha! You're right actually there. Saying in public that you actually play and and enjoy playing games from the previous generations especially the immediate generation actually is like saying you like watching transexuals play with their feet. The looks I get when I ask in shops for PS2 games or when I tell people I still enjoy playing Xbox "original" or PS2 games is baffling!


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    #51
    Atavan-Halen
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    Butch Cassidy wrote: »
    HAha! You're right actually there. Saying in public that you actually play and and enjoy playing games from the previous generations especially the immediate generation actually is like saying you like watching transexuals play with their feet. The looks I get when I ask in shops for PS2 games or when I tell people I still enjoy playing Xbox "original" or PS2 games is baffling!

    I remember about a year ago I was ringing different games shops to see if they had any gamecubes or gameboy micros and I practically got laughed off the phone. It's ridiculous. People want it, so sell it! Put up a few posters saying they now accept all games, retro or not, build up some stock and sell it! As long as it's priced fairly I'd be shopping there without a doubt.


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    #52
    Butch Cassidy
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    le sigh...


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    #53
    Butch Cassidy
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    I was buying a Ps2 game in Gamestop last week and I just quipped to the girl at the till/kinad speaking to myself "Seems like all the good PS2 games are gone now, just football games and Eyetoy left..." Then she reponds "Well what do you expect? the console's 11 years old like! Get with the times"

    (she didn't really say that last bit but the first part of the quote is verbatim.)


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    #54
    Atavan-Halen
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    Butch Cassidy wrote: »
    le sigh...

    Bookmart/Game exchange? Yeah I'd shop there but it's too expensive for the stock he has.


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    #55
    Butch Cassidy
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    Yeah I got Fable, Knights of the Old Republic and a few others Xbox games for €25 off a guy on Adverts (I was probably paying over the odds as is) and Mr Talbot St shop wants €25 each for the Knights games and €15 for Fable! Who's he kidding like?

    If he priced the Star Wars games at a tener then maybe he'd catch a bite considering they go for an average of that on the auction site - . Irish business never price stuff to sell so no one buys it and they go out of business. It's changed a bit since the recession but there's still cases like Mr Talbot St around. Just apply his business to any other sector and it's not that different really.


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    #56
    97i9y3941
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    well,its business,everyone makes a mark up,its about supply and demand,if you dont like it dont buy it,whats point being in business if your selling stuff at a lost,like the music industry,with i tunes its there to buy music cheap,but people will nearly always go for the illegal way to get the music,its just human nature :)


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    #57
    Atavan-Halen
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    Butch Cassidy wrote: »
    Yeah I got Fable, Knights of the Old Republic and a few others Xbox games for €25 off a guy on Adverts (I was probably paying over the odds as is) and Mr Talbot St shop wants €25 each for the Knights games and €15 for Fable! Who's he kidding like?

    If he priced the Star Wars games at a tener then maybe he'd catch a bite considering they go for an average of that on the auction site - . Irish business never price stuff to sell so no one buys it and they go out of business. It's changed a bit since the recession but there's still cases like Mr Talbot St around. Just apply his business to any other sector and it's not that different really.

    It's ridiculous alright. If you're going to be selling something specialised (ie: retro games) you'll need to be pricing it accordingly. Your customers are going to be in the know of what the average price of something should be and aren't going to be fooled by signs claiming "rare!!! old!!!" etc... You won't have your average casual gamer or parent that knows nothing outside of xbox live going in there buying games so just sell it for what it's worth!


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    #58
    Butch Cassidy
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    Fred83 wrote: »
    well,its business,everyone makes a mark up,its about supply and demand,if you dont like it dont buy it,whats point being in business if your selling stuff at a lost,like the music industry,with i tunes its there to buy music cheap,but people will nearly always go for the illegal way to get the music,its just human nature :)
    I think you're straying from the main point here though. Like our good friend atavan says, retro gaming ie. prev. gen games even PS2 games, is a fairly specialised market. Basically you're not selling to every tom, dick and harry like you would if it was current gen games like Modern Warfare and as such the people most likely to buy Xbox games, Mega drive games, Dreamcast games, Nes games etc. will be aware what they go for on ebay. Sure you'll get the odd straggler calling in and seeing the old games from his childhood and think "ooh deadly, I might buy this" but even at that they're priced so over the odds I'd say even someone that's not aware of the retro scene wouldn't pay €25 for Knights of the Old Republic.

    This guy is only thinking of his markup and not about pricing stuff to sell ie. pricing stuff to look attractive. He's sitting there thinking "grand, I'll give this guy a few quid trade i for this Star Wars and sell it on for €25 and make a few hundred percent profit" but as I said, that guy I doubt has sold many games in the last year! I went in there last summer to have a browse and then again there a few weeks ago and I saw pretty much the same selection of games save for the PS2 and current gen games.


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    #59
    Butch Cassidy
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    atavan-halen wrote: »
    It's ridiculous alright. If you're going to be selling something specialised (ie: retro games) you'll need to be pricing it accordingly. Your customers are going to be in the know of what the average price of something should be and aren't going to be fooled by signs claiming "rare!!! old!!!" etc... You won't have your average casual gamer or parent that knows nothing outside of xbox live going in there buying games so just sell it for what it's worth!
    If there was a casual/average gamer's market for Xbox games then maybe Gamestop would still stock them. I can only assume they don't thnk there is. Backwards compatibility with the Xbox 360 I think has damaged that somewhat.


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    #60
    97i9y3941
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    well,yes theres a fine line between,specialising and trying get stuff off for nothing,i dont see aes,radiant silverguns,panzer dragoon saga going for €50 each on ebay :)


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    #61
    Butch Cassidy
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    Fred83 wrote: »
    well,yes theres a fine line between,specialising and trying get stuff off for nothing,i dont see aes,radiant silverguns,panzer dragoon saga going for €50 each on ebay :)
    If the Talbot St guy priced his games a bit more along the lines of what they go for in final Ebay auctions than the buy it now price he might shift more. Go in and scope out the place for yrself. You'll see the same games int he same places on the same shelves in a few months time only with a new layer of dust! Granted them Star Wars games for Xbox may attract some interest he's priced them out of the market I believe.


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