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06-03-2010, 17:43   #1
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Social Welfare payments - leaving home

Hi i am 18 and leaving home for the first time. I wish to rent a 1 room appt. Does anybody know what are all my entitlements when moving out and looking for employment
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06-03-2010, 17:51   #2
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The full JSA for people under the age of 21 is €100, as far as I know.I wouldn't be surprised if you think that's ridiculous. That's what was announced in the budget anyway.
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hmm thats fairly rough alrite.. would that include rent allowance i wonder
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No,you apply for rent allowance through the HSE.It's separate. It's shocking that the government decided that there should be three different rates for JSA (under 21,under 24 and 25+).And by the look of things people seem pretty happy to accept it.
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leaving home for the first time

What are the benefits for a person under 25 leaving home , looking to rent an appartment and in search of work?
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06-03-2010, 18:20   #6
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While i appreciate there maybe personal reasons for leaving home, you are taking an enormous gamble. JSA at your age will be no more than €100 and this is assuming you will get it. There is an enormous waiting list at the moment, depending on what part of the country you are in. In addition you have a catch 22, you need to be actually renting an apartment before applying for rent allowance and again there are many different rates of this allowance being paid. Its a big bad world out there not helped with very few jobs out there, particularly if you have no experience. Good luck with your decision.
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Why are you leaving home if you cant finance somewhere to live ?

Or are you moving closer to a city to find work
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True,I meant to mention that you need to have been renting for at least 6 months before you are entitled to rent allowance and,as far as I know,it's discretionary e.g.,no fixed rate. Also, the landlord/lady has to be willing to accept it.
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True,I meant to mention that you need to have been renting for at least 6 months before you are entitled to rent allowance and,as far as I know,it's discretionary e.g.,no fixed rate. Also, the landlord/lady has to be willing to accept it.
Hi there, i did not actually realize the 6 month rule but makes sense alright! I think a spot of reality check maybe required in this situation!
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Hi there, i did not actually realize the 6 month rule but makes sense alright! I think a spot of reality check maybe required in this situation!
Yeah, last year I moved out of home while I was on the dole and that was what I was told.I don't think moving out from your parents' home while you're on the dole is always a bad decision. I moved because of a combination of wanting to be with my partner , living at home was doing nothing for my motivation or esteem and because I felt I had a better chance of finding a job in a different location. The new dole payments for under 25s are really are awful and anyone who believes that moving out of home is there best chance of finding work is screwed. You could call it inequality.
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I certainly admire your motivations Tiddlers and i hope the decision paid off for you. So many young people leave home without fully appreciating the challenges ahead, especially with no Jobs. I am a little older, Mortgage holder (small thank god), living with my girlfriend. I was made redundant recently, girlfriend not working either so i have learned a lot about the welfare system and its pitfalls over the past few months. This said, there are many, many people in worse situations than i am. Just hope this country gets back on its feet soon!
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16-03-2010, 23:45   #12
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Hello,

I have a Question about claiming the Dole...

I have to leave my job due to Job Stress/experience bullying...I've been stressing out, have interpersonal issues due to all these issues at work...

Yes I'm married but I cant stay at my job due to poor issues at work...I dont know what else to do but leave my job??

These issues have been going on for almost 6months and my 3 bosses & 2 CEO's of the company all know about what is going on but still nothing has changed...So in 7 days I will no long have a job...

I'm been looking for a new job since Nov '09, but still I have not found another job...

If anyone knows what I would be entitled(Dole) to that would really help me as I have never claimed Dole before...

Thanks for your help!
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Hello,

I have a Question about claiming the Dole...

I have to leave my job due to Job Stress/experience bullying...I've been stressing out, have interpersonal issues due to all these issues at work...

Yes I'm married but I cant stay at my job due to poor issues at work...I dont know what else to do but leave my job??

These issues have been going on for almost 6months and my 3 bosses & 2 CEO's of the company all know about what is going on but still nothing has changed...So in 7 days I will no long have a job...

I'm been looking for a new job since Nov '09, but still I have not found another job...

If anyone knows what I would be entitled(Dole) to that would really help me as I have never claimed Dole before...

Thanks for your help!
Depending on how much PRSI contributions you have paid in you may be entitled up to the full amount of Benefit of €196 p/w. Depending on how long you have been paying them(i think?) will determine whether you get it for 9 or 12 months, after that its Jobseekers allowance(means tested)

Its really horrible this day and age people are being forced out of their jobs. Have you spoken to Citizens Information or maybe some form of Union as to what is going on with you in your job? Depending on how much you're earning and if you're actually willing to take such a small amount to live on with SW id reconsider my options
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Social Welfare payments - leaving home

You may be in the wrong forum, this appears to be a serious case of harassment and or bullying. Have you considered legal advice and i would certainly not be advising you resign although i appreciate this must be a difficult position. Firstly you need to document everything, of you feel strongly about resigning you need to state clearly to your employers the reasons why you have made this decision and perhaps put them on notice you intend to seek legal advice on constructive dismissal.

My immediate concern is you may be penalized by the social welfare for leaving your job albeit under difficult circumstances, this could lead to up the 9 weeks waiting before you are even considered for JSB.

My strongest advice is to check numerous websites particularly the NERA site and citizens information for any and all information dealing with unfair dismissal but be advised, you must document everything about your experiences. You don't state how long you were employed by this company but you should be aware you need at least 13 months continuous employment to be covered by the unfair dismissals act.
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Hello Dempo1,

Thank you for your reply on this issue/matter...

Yes I have written documentation of all issues at work, I have also kept All emails to My Bosses including the woman in HR and the 2 CEO's of this company...They all had Full Knowledge of what what going on...I had 5 Meetings with one of my Bosses and after the 3rd meeting about it in December 2009 she told me "I should be Lucky to have a job"
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When I told My Boss I did not want to work with the person that was causing these issues and really effecting my Quality of Life, and I'm just not happy with what is going on at the moment...
**In response My Boss said "that I should thinking it over, this weekend and let her know if that is my decision, if so it could be not good for me....(I think she was kind of saying that The company would let me go, as they dont need a full-time person working in my Department"

I've been considering going to a solicitor about all the issues that happened at work and this lead up to me putting in my notice as it was way too much stress on myself... But I just not sure who to talk with about all this??

I'm happy about leaving my job but I felt that there was nothing else to do as None of the Managers were dealing with the issue... I was told by 2 of the Managers (one including the woman in HR) "told us to Sort out the issues our Selves" which It is Unacceptable to me that A Manager Would tell the Employee to Sort out the Issue themselves!

I really feel that i have been cheated out of a job, and money that I would be making if the managers could of just sorted out this issue... But alas they all looked away, and acted as if nothing was going on...How sick is that...??

Totally sad!
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