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**LFCFan** · 15-01-2010, 00:14

As suggested by Sceptre, I've decided to add a sticky for people to discuss what they consider to be a ripoff.

The dictionary defines it as:

1. an act or instance of ripping off another or others; a theft, cheat, or swindle.
2. exploitation, esp. of those who cannot prevent or counter it.
3. a copy or imitation.
4. a person who rips off another or others; thief or swindler.

Someone coming to my door and taking money from me to tar my drive but then not doing it is, in my mind, not a ripoff. It would be a scam. Something illegal.

What this forum is for is to discuss when consumers have been ripped off because of high prices. Ripoff Ireland forum was started to discuss the rediculously hihg prices of goods and services in Ireland compared to our European neighbours and mainly came about because of our change to Euro and the fact it was easier to see the price differences.

Please feel free to discuss what you think should be considered a ripoff. Give examples if you wish but please keep them anecdotal and not a moan about something that has just happened to you. You can start your own thread about that.

This thread will be monitored closely so stay on topic and no personal abuse or you get an instant ban for a week!!!

ejmaztec · 15-01-2010, 20:09

It seems to me that society has absorbed "attempted rip-off" into "rip-off", so that whether you've paid or not, a rip-off price exists. I'd go with that absorption, as it does seem to be the norm now.

I think that a rip-off situation can only occur in the same jurisdiction. The prices charged in other countries, no matter how close, are largely irrelevant. If anyone wants to compare neighbouring jurisdictions, they may as well go the whole hog and bring Chinese prices into it. Every country on the planet has different prices for the same goods, but a lot of people can't get that into their heads, for some strange reason.

subway · 18-01-2010, 15:38

this forum would seem to be unable to serve its purpose.
for as long as i can remember any attempt to highlight an anecdotal example of what most people refer to as "rip off ireland" has simply been shot down by other forum members.
if the consumer hasnt LITERALLY been robbed been the retailer, then the rip off apparently isnt worthy of posting. the only thing a poster can expect is a torrent of replies explaining that whatever they have posted is not a rip off.

a forum set up to highlight the high cost of living in ireland, ends up getting bogged down in the correct use of its name - colloquail or dictionary.

most posters use the accepted colloquail understanding, but unfortunately they have no leg to stand on when the dictionary definiton is raised.

either rename the forum or lock it up, its an ongoing disaster as it cant exist with both definitions and no amount of rules/charters are going to redefine the phrase in the irish mind.

animaal · 23-01-2010, 00:30

The forum has a charter, it's clearly stated that the purpose of the forum is to discuss prices that are too high, etc. That charter should be enough. Anybody who tries to shut down a thread even though it's following the spirit of the charter should be dropped from a height.

As an example, the charter for the Ladies Lounge starts with "Please note that this is a forum for the discussion of all topics and any issues pertaining to being a woman". How long would you give me if I was trying to derail threads there, based on my own definition of the forum name, when the charter is clear that those discussions are relevant?

subway · 23-01-2010, 13:11

this forum is the same forum as consumer issues, just with a different name.
it should function as a reverse bargain alerts, if it is to serve any purpose at all.

if boards.ie are afraid of libelling a company then close or rename the forum...

mullen · 22-04-2010, 18:13

I was going to retire in Ireland i spend the last 7 months there and got the hell out of the place they have THE RIP OFF down to a ART FORM. IT STARTS WITH THE GOVERNMENT ALL THE WAY DOWN. I would tell anyone who is going there. your in for a shock of your life if you don't get attack in you home no one cares just break the door down and KILL YOU. no one see anything so they IS THE GREEN FIELDS. this place called IRELAND

ItalianPosh · 12-06-2010, 02:54

One should be especially careful when buying online. sometimes it is useful to find out who the web owner is and what country they are based in. I once thought I was buying from a UK website but was actually buying from a chinese one so I'm not sure whether it was a rip off or not.
Check website owner

mullen · 12-06-2010, 19:12

after reading some of the reply to been RIP OF IRELAND it seem to me some of or maybe most people living in IRELAND don't know or care when there been rip off. Someday they may wake up to what is happening to them i suggest getting out of the country and living in another country even if it England and see what is

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Originally Posted by mullen

I was going to retire in Ireland i spend the last 7 months there and got the hell out of the place they have THE RIP OFF down to a ART FORM. IT STARTS WITH THE GOVERNMENT ALL THE WAY DOWN. I would tell anyone who is going there. your in for a shock of your life if you don't get attack in you home no one cares just break the door down and KILL YOU. no one see anything so they IS THE GREEN FIELDS. this place called IRELAND

jor el · 22-06-2010, 14:45

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Originally Posted by mullen

I was going to retire in Ireland i spend the last 7 months there and got the hell out of the place they have THE RIP OFF down to a ART FORM. IT STARTS WITH THE GOVERNMENT ALL THE WAY DOWN. I would tell anyone who is going there. your in for a shock of your life if you don't get attack in you home no one cares just break the door down and KILL YOU. no one see anything so they IS THE GREEN FIELDS. this place called IRELAND

This forum, and this thread, is for discussion of high consumer pricing in Ireland. It is not a place for you to vent your obviously racist views.

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Originally Posted by mullen

Someday they may wake up to what is happening to them i suggest getting out of the country and living in another country even if it England and see what is

Your Utopian view of everywhere that isn't Ireland is laughable. Why did the number of non-Irish nationals living in Ireland increase from 274k to 420k between 2002 and 2006, according to the census? If they were all attacked and killed in their homes, why are there still so many here? Your racist view of Ireland is not welcome here.

aintnopegion · 19-09-2011, 16:52

I think with the advent of the internet the prices in other countries especially UK and Euro countries is highly relevant. When it is possible to buy an item on Amazon for a fraction of the price that it is advertised on a comparable Irish site and then have that item delivered free. then I think it is a problem. Or that companies who operate Here and in UK have vastly different prices for the same item. My Father recently bought me over an item he purchased in the UK in Aldi. We found we did not need it so went to the Aldi here in Cork for a refund (we were told we would only receive the amount in euro they charge here 79.99 euro) my Father had actually paid 49.99 pounds around 56 euro at the time so he made a profit on this occasion but how can the prices vary so much. I cannot believe that logistics would add so much to price. I also think with so many people having net access and relatives in UK that a lot of people here will of course buy the same items cheaper when they get the chance and consider that the prices here are indeed a rip off in a lot of cases.

john_reilly74 · 11-01-2012, 19:13

It's when you let off a rip of a shart and try to blame someone else

filthyjabba · 26-02-2012, 21:53

Hey, does anyone think this deal is a little bit too good to be true, it's fake tiffany alright, but the silver is sterling... 600g sold for €325

http://www.adverts.ie/necklaces-pend...rrings/1315655

al22 · 28-01-2013, 06:39

There, I think, is another rip-off. It is the high wages demand, on reason thet living costs here are high. Reality is the prices are growing according to how much customer can pay for that? Same international chains of shop have low prices in a countries with a low wages, and high in a countries with a high wages. A circle. A cup of coffee in Bulgaria 50 cent and 3.50+ in Ireland make it clear.

15-01-2010, 00:14	#1
LFCFan Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Drogheda Posts: 3,434 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Rip Off Ireland	What is a Rip Off?? As suggested by Sceptre, I've decided to add a sticky for people to discuss what they consider to be a ripoff. The dictionary defines it as: 1. an act or instance of ripping off another or others; a theft, cheat, or swindle. 2. exploitation, esp. of those who cannot prevent or counter it. 3. a copy or imitation. 4. a person who rips off another or others; thief or swindler. Someone coming to my door and taking money from me to tar my drive but then not doing it is, in my mind, not a ripoff. It would be a scam. Something illegal. What this forum is for is to discuss when consumers have been ripped off because of high prices. Ripoff Ireland forum was started to discuss the rediculously hihg prices of goods and services in Ireland compared to our European neighbours and mainly came about because of our change to Euro and the fact it was easier to see the price differences. Please feel free to discuss what you think should be considered a ripoff. Give examples if you wish but please keep them anecdotal and not a moan about something that has just happened to you. You can start your own thread about that. This thread will be monitored closely so stay on topic and no personal abuse or you get an instant ban for a week!!! Last edited by LFCFan; 15-01-2010 at 00:17.

18-01-2010, 15:38	#3
subway Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5,546 Adverts \| Friends	this forum would seem to be unable to serve its purpose. for as long as i can remember any attempt to highlight an anecdotal example of what most people refer to as "rip off ireland" has simply been shot down by other forum members. if the consumer hasnt LITERALLY been robbed been the retailer, then the rip off apparently isnt worthy of posting. the only thing a poster can expect is a torrent of replies explaining that whatever they have posted is not a rip off. a forum set up to highlight the high cost of living in ireland, ends up getting bogged down in the correct use of its name - colloquail or dictionary. most posters use the accepted colloquail understanding, but unfortunately they have no leg to stand on when the dictionary definiton is raised. either rename the forum or lock it up, its an ongoing disaster as it cant exist with both definitions and no amount of rules/charters are going to redefine the phrase in the irish mind. Last edited by subway; 18-01-2010 at 15:42.

22-04-2010, 18:13	#6
mullen Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 18 Adverts \| Friends	yes ireland is a rip off country I was going to retire in Ireland i spend the last 7 months there and got the hell out of the place they have THE RIP OFF down to a ART FORM. IT STARTS WITH THE GOVERNMENT ALL THE WAY DOWN. I would tell anyone who is going there. your in for a shock of your life if you don't get attack in you home no one cares just break the door down and KILL YOU. no one see anything so they IS THE GREEN FIELDS. this place called IRELAND

12-06-2010, 02:54	#7
ItalianPosh Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 13 Adverts \| Friends	One should be especially careful when buying online. sometimes it is useful to find out who the web owner is and what country they are based in. I once thought I was buying from a UK website but was actually buying from a chinese one so I'm not sure whether it was a rip off or not. Check website owner Last edited by ItalianPosh; 12-06-2010 at 03:17.

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15-01-2010, 20:09	#2
ejmaztec Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Fecktov Posts: 22,565 Adverts \| Friends	It seems to me that society has absorbed "attempted rip-off" into "rip-off", so that whether you've paid or not, a rip-off price exists. I'd go with that absorption, as it does seem to be the norm now. I think that a rip-off situation can only occur in the same jurisdiction. The prices charged in other countries, no matter how close, are largely irrelevant. If anyone wants to compare neighbouring jurisdictions, they may as well go the whole hog and bring Chinese prices into it. Every country on the planet has different prices for the same goods, but a lot of people can't get that into their heads, for some strange reason.

23-01-2010, 00:30	#4
animaal Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 255 Adverts \| Friends	The forum has a charter, it's clearly stated that the purpose of the forum is to discuss prices that are too high, etc. That charter should be enough. Anybody who tries to shut down a thread even though it's following the spirit of the charter should be dropped from a height. As an example, the charter for the Ladies Lounge starts with "Please note that this is a forum for the discussion of all topics and any issues pertaining to being a woman". How long would you give me if I was trying to derail threads there, based on my own definition of the forum name, when the charter is clear that those discussions are relevant?

23-01-2010, 13:11	#5
subway Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5,546 Adverts \| Friends	this forum is the same forum as consumer issues, just with a different name. it should function as a reverse bargain alerts, if it is to serve any purpose at all. if boards.ie are afraid of libelling a company then close or rename the forum...

19-09-2011, 16:52	#10
aintnopegion Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 14 Adverts \| Friends	I think with the advent of the internet the prices in other countries especially UK and Euro countries is highly relevant. When it is possible to buy an item on Amazon for a fraction of the price that it is advertised on a comparable Irish site and then have that item delivered free. then I think it is a problem. Or that companies who operate Here and in UK have vastly different prices for the same item. My Father recently bought me over an item he purchased in the UK in Aldi. We found we did not need it so went to the Aldi here in Cork for a refund (we were told we would only receive the amount in euro they charge here 79.99 euro) my Father had actually paid 49.99 pounds around 56 euro at the time so he made a profit on this occasion but how can the prices vary so much. I cannot believe that logistics would add so much to price. I also think with so many people having net access and relatives in UK that a lot of people here will of course buy the same items cheaper when they get the chance and consider that the prices here are indeed a rip off in a lot of cases.

11-01-2012, 19:13	#11
john_reilly74 Closed Account Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 55 Adverts \| Friends	It's when you let off a rip of a shart and try to blame someone else

26-02-2012, 21:53	#12
filthyjabba Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 32 Adverts \| Friends	Hey, does anyone think this deal is a little bit too good to be true, it's fake tiffany alright, but the silver is sterling... 600g sold for €325 http://www.adverts.ie/necklaces-pend...rrings/1315655

28-01-2013, 06:39	#13
al22 Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 17 Adverts \| Friends	There, I think, is another rip-off. It is the high wages demand, on reason thet living costs here are high. Reality is the prices are growing according to how much customer can pay for that? Same international chains of shop have low prices in a countries with a low wages, and high in a countries with a high wages. A circle. A cup of coffee in Bulgaria 50 cent and 3.50+ in Ireland make it clear.