GNR Chinese Democracy world tour 2009/2010

Its So Easy · 11-12-2009 6:44pm #1

Asian Leg
December 11, 2009 - Taipei County Stadium (Taipei, Taiwan)
December 13, 2009 - Olympic Park Gymnastics Stadium (Seoul, South Korea)
December 16, 2009 - Osaka Dome (Osaka, Japan)
December 19, 2009 - Tokyo Dome (Tokyo, Japan)
Canadian Leg
January 13, 2010 - MTS Centre (Winnipeg, MB)
January 16, 2010 - Pengrowth Saddledome (Calgary, AB)
January 17, 2010 - Rexall Place (Edmonton, AB)
January 19, 2010 - Credit Union Centre (Saskatoon, SK)
January 20, 2010 - Brandt Centre (Regina, SK)
January 24, 2010 - Copps Coliseum (Hamilton, ON)
January 25, 2010 - John Labatt Centre (London, ON)
January 27, 2010 - Centre Bell (Montreal, PQ)
January 28, 2010 - Air Canada Centre (Toronto, ON)
January 31, 2010 - Scotiabank Place (Ottawa, ON)
February 1, 2010 - Colisee Pepsi (Quebec City, PQ)
February 3, 2010 - Moncton Coliseum (Moncton, NB)
February 4, 2010 - Metro Centre (Halifax, NS)

South American leg

March 10th - April 10th

rednik · 11-12-2009 6:49pm

I am still listening to Chinese Democracy and enjoying it. I haven't seen them live since Slane and although they are a totally different line up, it is one I look forward to as long as Axl doesn't keep us waiting too long for him to appear on stage.

Its So Easy · 11-12-2009 6:52pm

Also dont piss axl rose off or touch anyone with him.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/11/axl-rose-guns-n-roses-paparazzi-punch-attack-airport-lax-video/

RonMexico · 11-12-2009 7:52pm

Also Axl has ditched the braids and returned to the long hair/bandana look.

DJ Ashba has also replaced Robin Finck.

From reports coming in it sounds as though Ashba set the place on fire with his playing and from the short clips posted it sounds true.

Massive stage/pyro show and a great setlist.

1. Chinese Democracy
2. Welcome To The Jungle
3. It's So Easy
4. Mr Brownstone
5. If The World
6. Live and Let Die
7. Richard Fortus solo (James Bond Theme)
8. There Was A Time
9. Drumsolo
10. Bass solo
11. My generation with Tommy Stinson on vocals
12. I.R.S.
13. Rocket Queen
14. Dizzy Reed Piano solo
15. Street of Dreams
16. DJ Ashba solo
17. Sweet Child O' Mine
18. Band jam
19. November Rain
20. Ron Thal solo (Pink Panther)
21. You Could Be Mine
22. Shackler's Revenge
23. Knockin' On Heaven's Door

Encore:
24. This I Love (Dizzy on the piano)
25. Band Jam
26. Better
27. Paradise City

Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFlrVr_m_jA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pKHT65uFNg

Mushy · 11-12-2009 7:56pm

As much as I couldn't be bothered seeing them, a 21-song setlist is quite impressive, while giving all the band there individual moments.

RonMexico · 11-12-2009 8:02pm

Better longer video of Sweet Child

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q14kebO0iUc

Its So Easy · 11-12-2009 8:07pm

All setlists are from HTGTH.com and the people who give the updates.

December 11th, 2009 - Taipei, Taiwan @ Taipei City Stadium
Setlist: Chinese Democracy, Welcome To The Jungle, It's So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, If The World, Live And Let Die, Richard Fortus guitar solo (James Bond), There Was A Time, Frank Ferrer drum solo, Tommy Stinson bass solo/My Generation (The Who cover with Tommy on lead vocals), I.R.S., Rocket Queen, Dizzy Reed piano solo/Street Of Dreams, DJ Ashba guitar solo/Sweet Child O' Mine, Jam/November Rain, Ron Thal guitar solo (Pink Panther), You Could Be Mine, Shackler's Revenge, Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Encore: This I Love, Jam/Better, Paradise City

Notes: It starts raining during the show so Axl changes the lyrics of November Rain to acknowledge it. The crowd loves it.

RonMexico · 11-12-2009 8:13pm

Its So Easy wrote: »

All setlists are from HTGTH.com and the people who give the updates.

December 11th, 2009 - Taipei, Taiwan @ Taipei City Stadium
Setlist: Chinese Democracy, Welcome To The Jungle, It's So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, If The World, Live And Let Die, Richard Fortus guitar solo (James Bond), There Was A Time, Frank Ferrer drum solo, Tommy Stinson bass solo/My Generation (The Who cover with Tommy on lead vocals), I.R.S., Rocket Queen, Dizzy Reed piano solo/Street Of Dreams, DJ Ashba guitar solo/Sweet Child O' Mine, Jam/November Rain, Ron Thal guitar solo (Pink Panther), You Could Be Mine, Shackler's Revenge, Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Encore: This I Love, Jam/Better, Paradise City

Notes: It starts raining during the show so Axl changes the lyrics of November Rain to acknowledge it. The crowd loves it.

I already posted the setlist.

11-12-2009 8:15pm

Its So Easy wrote: »

Also dont piss axl rose off or touch anyone with him.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/11/axl-rose-guns-n-roses-paparazzi-punch-attack-airport-lax-video/

Nice to see Axl out and about again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYZefzv8nHA

"Before the brawl, Axl warns the paparazzi about a photog who was allegedly getting close to a woman in his entourage saying, "touch her again, I'll break his f**king neck."

Seconds later, the woman can be seen scuffling with a photog -- and that's when Axl charges in and swings for the photog's head ... knocking the guy right on his ass.

As members of Axl's entourage tried to rip the Guns n' Roses singer away, the rocker continued to stomp and kick the man while he was on the ground.

Members of Rose's crew eventually tore him away and walked to their gate. In the footage, it's clear two TSA agents observed the fight, but we've learned they never notified airport police.

Axl has since posted an article on his MySpace page, in which the paparazzi are described as "belligerent" -- it also states Rose was uninjured in the "unprovoked attack."

smelltheglove · 11-12-2009 8:59pm

Been keeping tabs on this all day over at mygnrforum great to see them back and good to see axl throwing a few well deserved punches aswell lol always knew ashba would suit gnr i was a big fan of the first beautiful creatures album great guitar player....lets hope they hit europe in the new year cause ill have to go to 5 or 6 of the shows again!

Seth Brundle · 12-12-2009 12:04am

Mushy wrote: »

As much as I couldn't be bothered seeing them, a 21-song setlist is quite impressive, while giving all the band there individual moments.

...assuming that Axl doesn't take the notion of arriving three hours late (without soundchecking obviously)and then throwing a tantrum midway through before storming off!

RonMexico · 12-12-2009 12:30am

They hit the stage dead on time in Dublin in 2006. Caught a lot of people by surprise. They were on time in Taiwan too. Axl sounds great, the band sounds great. Hating on Axl is such sheep mentality it is sad.

Seth Brundle · 12-12-2009 12:40am

Nothing to do with sheep mentality! I'm after reading Watch You Bleed: The Saga of Guns N' Roses and I learnt a lot more about Axl than I had previously known.
What I described was a regular occurence by the obsessive & abusive primadonna!

lord lucan · 12-12-2009 1:20am

kbannon wrote: »

Nothing to do with sheep mentality! I'm after reading Watch You Bleed: The Saga of Guns N' Roses and I learnt a lot more about Axl than I had previously known.
What I described was a regular occurence by the obsessive & abusive primadonna!

+1 to that. I have been and always will be a massive GN'R fan(original band) but Axls just got too up himself lately. All that hating on Slash is just petty and childish. Having watched that vid from LAX i see his temperament hasn't changed,while i don't wish it blows up in his face i do see this going pear shaped.

I notice they've avoided North America first,they'll struggle to fill arenas there,particularly the US following know-shows and cancellations in the past and an album that's been largely forgotten.

Its So Easy · 12-12-2009 1:30am

lord lucan wrote: »

+1 to that. I have been and always will be a massive GN'R fan(original band) but Axls just got too up himself lately. All that hating on Slash is just petty and childish. Having watched that vid from LAX i see his temperament hasn't changed,while i don't wish it blows up in his face i do see this going pear shaped.

I notice they've avoided North America first,they'll struggle to fill arenas there,particularly the US following know-shows and cancellations in the past and an album that's been largely forgotten.

The old band is gone as much as we all wish it was back together it won't happen ever. If Axl is to be believed. Well the LAX thing was some paparrazi put their hands on beta and for those who know who beta is and what she means to Axl then you can understand his reaction.

Seth Brundle · 12-12-2009 1:39am

He took the band from the others and effectivley pushed them out through his paranoia, selfishness, self-obsession, unprofessionalism, etc..

However, getting back on topic, unless he has changed his ways, (something that he really needed to do big time) then he will never gain respect from the old followers that were lost over the years.

Its So Easy · 12-12-2009 1:48am

kbannon wrote: »

He took the band from the others and effectivley pushed them out through his paranoia, selfishness, self-obsession, unprofessionalism, etc..

However, getting back on topic, unless he has changed his ways, (something that he really needed to do big time) then he will never gain respect from the old followers that were lost over the years.

Steven - fired
Izzy - left on his own
Slash - left on his own
Duff - left on his own
Matt - Fired
Gilby - Left go

Two were fired and Slash and Duff could have stayed if they wanted to but they didn't.

lord lucan · 12-12-2009 1:51am

Its So Easy wrote: »

The old band is gone as much as we all wish it was back together it won't happen ever. If Axl is to be believed. Well the LAX thing was some paparrazi put their hands on beta and for those who know who beta is and what she means to Axl then you can understand his reaction.

The cynic in me thinks that the lunge at the photographer was nicely timed on the eve of a new tour. Beta must be made of strong stuff to stick with him all these years,fair play.

Does her son still post on mygnrforum.com?

Its So Easy · 12-12-2009 1:55am

lord lucan wrote: »

The cynic in me thinks that the lunge at the photographer was nicely timed on the eve of a new tour. Beta must be made of strong stuff to stick with him all these years,fair play.

Does her son still post on mygnrforum.com?

fernando ? As far as I know he does. HTGTH is the place to be, as Jarmo is going to all the shows planned in Asia and Canada.

Shows what you get for being thanked by Axl Rose on an album.

RonMexico · 12-12-2009 1:57am

Jarma is a wanker and HTGTH is censored to ****. Mygnrforum is the only place to be.

Seth Brundle · 12-12-2009 1:59am

Its So Easy wrote: »

Steven - fired
Izzy - left on his own
Slash - left on his own
Duff - left on his own
Matt - Fired
Gilby - Left go

Two were fired and Slash and Duff could have stayed if they wanted to but they didn't.

Why did Izzy, SLash and Duff leave?
Why did musicians used over the lifetime of CD leave?

Its So Easy · 12-12-2009 2:00am

RonMexico wrote: »

Jarma is a wanker and HTGTH is censored to ****. Mygnrforum is the only place to be.

Fair point but I had to ask Jarmo could I use the setlists(reason I was behind you in posting) and posted it here on boards.

lord lucan · 12-12-2009 2:00am

RonMexico wrote: »

Jarma is a wanker and HTGTH is censored to ****. Mygnrforum is the only place to be.

I was on HTGTH for a good while but Jarno's ridiculous modding and censorship(ie. Axl is god and Slash is evil) made me leave. Was on Mygnrforum for a good while,haven't been over there in ages though,not since Axl put in an appearance as Dexter!:D

Its So Easy · 12-12-2009 2:12am

kbannon wrote: »

Why did Izzy, SLash and Duff leave?
Why did musicians used over the lifetime of CD leave?

As far as I know Izzy didn't like being told what to do, and being sober and clean around Slash and Duff who were out of their minds most of the Illusion tour must not have been much fun.

Slash left because nothing was getting done and a few other reasons.

Duff seems to have left because the rest had ****ed off at that stage.

Paul Huge left as he wasn't into touring and all that required.
Robin left because of Nine Inch Nails.
Brain left because of his wife giving birth.

RonMexico · 12-12-2009 1:39pm

"December" Rain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAsiXheJ89o

Sweet Child O' Mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH8k5-peyfE

Live and Let Die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TazvxohWVx4

Welcome to the Jungle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCvDlRHjnMo

RonMexico · 12-12-2009 3:07pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwG3NmhyKuc

superweld · 12-12-2009 3:38pm

GNR are back and dare I say sounding better than ever

I wish people would stop focusing on the past and commenting on things they don't know about. The watch you bleed book was written with Axl bashing in mind so don't reference that. Anyone here would punch that guy in the same situation. Publicity stunt? LOL I don't think so.

Let's focus on the music and the current band. Looks like GNR fans are in for a treat.

Its So Easy · 13-12-2009 5:06pm

All setlists are from HTGTH.com and the people who give the updates.

December 13th, 2009 - Seoul, South Korea @ Olympic Park Gymnastics Arena
Setlist: Chinese Democracy,Welcome To The Jungle,It's So Easy,Mr Brownstone,Shackler's Revenge,There Was A Time,Richard Solo (James Bond),Live and Let Die,Drum Solo,Sorry,Rocket Queen,DJ Solo,Sweet Child O' Mine,Dizzy Solo (Ziggy Stardust),Street of Dreams, You Could Be Mine (with F1 on the video screen),Jam (Black Betty),My Generation in G with Tommy ****in' Stinson,Jam,November Rain,Take A Walk On The Wild Side,Better,Knockin' On Heaven's Door,Bumblefoot Solo (Pink Panther),Paradise City

Notes:
Opening act: GUMX

Rocky77 · 13-12-2009 5:37pm

Guns N' Roses changed my life. I had no particular interest in music til a friend loaned me AFD in secondary school and after the opening ripple of Jungle I was hooked. It was the gateway to all the rest of the music I'm into now, I travel all over the place going to gigs (was in LA to see Kiss and Steel Panther two weeks ago), my taste then influenced my brother who plays in a band called Sunset Vista, who try to chase a Crue/Buckcherry/Velvet Revolver-kind of sound.

But enough of the background. I just don't see the point of what Axl is doing anymore. Chinese Democracy left me totally underwhelmed and in my opinion at least, wasn't value for $13million worth of record compnay investment. I've seen the new incarnation three times live and while Axl is sounding great - miles better than when he resurfaced at House of Blues and Rock in Rio - there are too many soloes in the show and the setlist is too predicatable. No Don't Cry, no Estranged, no Dead Horse...

I don't deny him his right to tour and make music but change the name and let's all move on.

RonMexico · 13-12-2009 7:02pm

Please do not turn this thread into another ****ing old vs new guns argument. Been there done that, move on. Axl has, Slash has, time the fans did the same.

smelltheglove · 13-12-2009 11:49pm

yeah lads come on get over it this IS guns n roses now,and like all the other tours im delighted to see one of the greatest frontmen do what he does best and sounding better than ever
Ill never forget standing in a park in leeds in 2002 listening to the opening notes of november rain words cant explain it ****ing amazing and id urge any gnr fans past and present to catch this live tour if it comes anyway close to eire cause like the last few tours ill be getting to at least 3 of these shows if europe happens!! THERE WAS A TIME!! RRRAAAWWWK!

lord lucan · 14-12-2009 2:20am

RonMexico wrote: »

Please do not turn this thread into another ****ing old vs new guns argument. Been there done that, move on. Axl has, Slash has, time the fans did the same.

Axl hasn't got over it,that's the problem. "I consider Slash a cancer", a direct quote from the nut job himself from february of this year.

brendansmith · 14-12-2009 2:32am

lord lucan wrote: »

Axl hasn't got over it,that's the problem. "I consider Slash a cancer", a direct quote from the nut job himself from february of this year.

:eek:

lord lucan · 14-12-2009 2:46am

In context,it reads:"I suppose (former bass player) Duff (McKagan) could play guitar on something somewhere but there's zero possibility of me having anything to do with Slash," Rose said.

"In a nutshell, personally I consider him a cancer and better removed, avoided -- and the less anyone heard of him or his supporters the better."

Rose was not even a fan of Slash's guitar playing, claiming he has lost his edge and seems to be more passionate about being "a whore for the limelight."

RonMexico · 14-12-2009 9:08pm

**** it lets just turn this another Axl vs Slash thread again. Jesus H. Christ.

smelltheglove · 14-12-2009 9:41pm

yeah so irritating always happens that why i tend to stay away from these threads on here but hey thats there opinion and were all entitled to it

Its So Easy · 16-12-2009 12:42am

lord lucan wrote: »

Axl hasn't got over it,that's the problem. "I consider Slash a cancer", a direct quote from the nut job himself from february of this year.

If this was on HTGTH you'd be banned for saying that. And why did this turn into a Slash Vs Axl argument ?

Can people just enjoy the band as it is as they are very good and Axl has got his voice back to a good standard.

I mean from some of the audio and video of the Illusion tour, axl must have been driniking acid at times.

lord lucan · 16-12-2009 2:19am

Its So Easy wrote: »

If this was on HTGTH you'd be banned for saying that. And why did this turn into a Slash Vs Axl argument ?

Can people just enjoy the band as it is as they are very good and Axl has got his voice back to a good standard.

I mean from some of the audio and video of the Illusion tour, axl must have been driniking acid at times.

I wasn't trying to derail the thread or turn it into an Axl v Slash thread,i merely replied to RonMexicos comment that Axl has put the past behind him which i believe he hasn't. Axl doesn't help himself when it comes to interviews. He will of course be asked about "old" GN'R. He would be best saying nothing about it or even having a clause in interviews allowing no questions about it. He's gonna be quizzed about it during any media during this tour,any outbursts could overshadow what he and his band accomplish on stage.

I think Axls voice got seriously strained during the illusion tour due to the gruelling schedule they set themselves. I actually think his mental state had an impact too. The early arena shows were manic,Axl was like a maniac(in a good way!) on stage,pushing his vocals to the limit. As he progressed through psychotherapy he calmed down a lot and his voice stabilised to a large degree.

RonMexico · 16-12-2009 1:39pm

Axl do press during this tour - yeah riiight

RonMexico · 16-12-2009 4:16pm

Setlist from todays show in Japan.

01. Chinese Democracy
02. Welcome To The Jungle
03. It's So Easy
04. Mr Brownstone
05. Shackler's Revenge
06. If The World
07. Richard Fortus solo
08. Live and Let Die
09. Sorry
10. Rocket Queen
11. Prostitute
12. Dizzy Solo
13. Street of Dreams
14. Scraped
15. Frank Solo
16. You Could Be Mine
17.Axl Piano Solo
18. November Rain
19. IRS
20. DJ Ashba Solo
21. Sweet Child O' Mine
22. Catcher In The Rye
23. Out Ta Get Me
24. Bumblefoot Solo (Pink Panther)
25. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
26. Whole Lotta Rosie
27. This I Love
28. Nightrain

Encore:
29. Madagascar
30. Better
31. Sonic Reducer (The Dead Boys)
32. Patience
33. Don't Cry
34. Paradise City

Its So Easy · 17-12-2009 10:31pm

RonMexico wrote: »

Setlist from todays show in Japan.

01. Chinese Democracy
02. Welcome To The Jungle
03. It's So Easy
04. Mr Brownstone
05. Shackler's Revenge
06. If The World
07. Richard Fortus solo
08. Live and Let Die
09. Sorry
10. Rocket Queen
11. Prostitute
12. Dizzy Solo
13. Street of Dreams
14. Scraped
15. Frank Solo
16. You Could Be Mine
17.Axl Piano Solo
18. November Rain
19. IRS
20. DJ Ashba Solo
21. Sweet Child O' Mine
22. Catcher In The Rye
23. Out Ta Get Me
24. Bumblefoot Solo (Pink Panther)
25. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
26. Whole Lotta Rosie
27. This I Love
28. Nightrain

Encore:
29. Madagascar
30. Better
31. Sonic Reducer (The Dead Boys)
32. Patience
33. Don't Cry
34. Paradise City

That is some ****ing class set list.

Its So Easy · 19-12-2009 3:00pm

Officially the SECOND LONGEST GNR concert in history has happened today. three and a half hours.

December 19th, 2009 - Tokyo, Japan @ Tokyo Dome
Setlist: Chinese Democracy,Welcome To The Jungle, It's So Easy,Mr Brownstone,Catcher In The Rye,Sorry,If The World,Richard Solo,Live And Let Die,Dizzy Solo (Ziggy),Street of Dreams,You Could Be Mine,Rocket Queen,My Michele,DJ Solo,Sweet Child O' Mine,Shackler's Revenge,IRS,Axl Piano Solo,November Rain,Whole Lotta Rosie,Knockin' On Heaven's Door,Scraped,Prostitute,This I Love,Frank Solo,Out Ta Get Me,Bumblefoot Solo (Pink Panther) / Don't Cry,Nightrain

Encore:Madagascar,There Was A Time,Tommy Solo - My Generation,Better,Patience,Nice Boys,Paradise City

Notes:

lord lucan · 19-12-2009 3:39pm

I thought they played nearly 4 hours in L.A. in '91,last night at the Great Western Forum?!!

Its So Easy · 19-12-2009 3:51pm

lord lucan wrote: »

I thought they played nearly 4 hours in L.A. in '91,last night at the Great Western Forum?!!

You're right its the second longest show.

lord lucan · 19-12-2009 6:46pm

Its So Easy wrote: »

You're right its the second longest show.

The bootleg of that L.A. gig is savage.10 AFD songs iirc and other rarities like Locomotive.

Rocky77 · 19-12-2009 7:28pm

Its So Easy wrote: »

December 19th, 2009 - Tokyo, Japan @ Tokyo Dome
Setlist: Chinese Democracy,Welcome To The Jungle, It's So Easy,Mr Brownstone,Catcher In The Rye,Sorry,If The World,Richard Solo,Live And Let Die,Dizzy Solo (Ziggy),Street of Dreams,You Could Be Mine,Rocket Queen,My Michele,DJ Solo,Sweet Child O' Mine,Shackler's Revenge,IRS,Axl Piano Solo,November Rain,Whole Lotta Rosie,Knockin' On Heaven's Door,Scraped,Prostitute,This I Love,Frank Solo,Out Ta Get Me,Bumblefoot Solo (Pink Panther) / Don't Cry,Nightrain

Encore:Madagascar,There Was A Time,Tommy Solo - My Generation,Better,Patience,Nice Boys,Paradise City

Too many soloes I think. If I was going along I'd rather hear more songs.

RonMexico · 20-12-2009 3:38pm

Rocky77 wrote: »

Too many soloes I think. If I was going along I'd rather hear more songs.

Yeah clearly 30 songs in a 3hour + concert is not enough for some people :rolleyes:

Rocky77 · 20-12-2009 4:32pm

RonMexico wrote: »

Yeah clearly 30 songs in a 3hour + concert is not enough for some people :rolleyes:

Dead Horse, Locamotive, Estranged or... some glorified sessions musicians bloating a concert setlist with a solo. I wonder of the programme seller should be allowed do a 'changing a fifty' solo....

RonMexico · 20-12-2009 4:45pm

Rocky77 wrote: »

Dead Horse, Locamotive, Estranged or... some glorified sessions musicians bloating a concert setlist with a solo. I wonder of the programme seller should be allowed do a 'changing a fifty' solo....

I'll take the 13 songs from their new album thank you very much.

Mental Mickey · 20-12-2009 5:35pm

RonMexico wrote: »

I'll take the 13 songs from their new album thank you very much.

:eek: Are you mad??? Half of its rubbish.

RonMexico · 20-12-2009 6:52pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

:eek: Are you mad??? Half of its rubbish.

In your opinion and thats just it. Axl is damned either way no matter what he does he just can't win with some people. If he plays just the old material he gets the "cover band" bull**** and if he plays the new material people are moaning about the old material. Anyway I have had it with this thread about the tour being derailed constantly.

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GNR Chinese Democracy world tour 2009/2010

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