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[article] Ships used as car parks for unsold vehicles

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  • 10-02-2009 1:37pm
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    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,699 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Ships used as car parks for unsold vehicles

    Car manufacturers are increasingly using ships to store excess vehicles
    because ports' parking areas have become overwhelmed by the build-up of
    unsold vehicles.

    The move is a rare positive development for operators of the world's fleet
    of 640 car carriers, which face sharp falls in traffic. At the same time, 70
    new ships, mostly larger than their predecessors, are due for delivery this
    year alone.

    Operators have been forced to slow ships down to absorb spare capacity and
    conserve fuel. Many are also simplifying distribution networks. Some ports
    have run out of storage space as recently imported cars or vehicles awaiting
    export sit unsold following the sudden fall in demand.

    Specialist car terminals' vast parking spaces are often the only point in
    supply chains with sufficient storage space for large numbers of cars.

    One specialist car-carrier shipbroker said the number of under-employed car
    carriers was helping manufacturers to find vessels for storage.

    Wallenius Wilhelmsen, the Scandinavian joint venture that operates the
    world's largest car-carrier fleet, confirmed that one of its vessels, the
    Morning Glory, had been chartered to store up to 2,500 Toyota cars in the
    port of Malmö, southern Sweden.

    Another large operator, Oslo-based Höegh Autoliners, said it was working on
    a number of inquiries from manufacturers. Other operators are known to be
    considering or to have taken on storage work.

    Until the third quarter of last year, no operator would have had the
    capacity to spare ships for such work.

    While there are no exact figures yet for the scale of the downturn, demand
    is known to have dropped off sharply since September. The downturn is
    particularly affecting the operators of smaller ships that are used to ferry
    cars from main hub ports to smaller ports.

    Operators are increasingly calling directly at smaller ports, thus avoiding
    the need to trans-ship on to smaller vessels.

    The slump in car demand is encouraging operators for the first time in many
    years to compete harder for business moving large construction equipment,
    new trains and other large loads they had neglected because vessels were so
    full of cars.

    Carl-Johan Hagman, chief executive of Höegh Autoliners, said that the past
    five to six years had seen unprecedented growth for the sector, which had
    now come to an end. "For the first time for many years now, our sales force
    has got to get out and bring the cargo into the ships," he said.

    Source : ft.com / Maritime Clippings


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Should be what they do in Britain - use old airforce bases which would surely be cheaper and safer.

    scary pic

    610x.jpg


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,560 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Please wait patiently, a crew of Somali pirates will be with you shortly...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    That would never work, who'd pay a randsom for 500 cars in the current climate? :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    well they lossing money on it allready, why they dont just drop a price price?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ferris


    well they lossing money on it allready, why they dont just drop a price price?

    I don't know if id want to own a car that had been stored for 3+ months in a salty atmosphere.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    I don't know if id want to own a car that had been stored for 3+ months in a salty atmosphere.

    Even more reason to drop the price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Confab wrote: »
    Even more reason to drop the price.

    exactly, let them swallow a hard pill now, then just make all these cars rust on sea salt.

    sell it with minimum lost now, then just have it all scrapped...


  • Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭leon8v


    Ferris wrote: »
    I don't know if id want to own a car that had been stored for 3+ months in a salty atmosphere.

    You would probably never know!!

    As for the picture above being scary, Its not really, If thats in the UK, many of the large distributors would hold a few thousand cars at any one time in a normal year so that level of stock would be normal, the problem with that volume of stock is that the current market will make it harder to sell so its more than they need for the current market and will only become scary if it doesnt move over this year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ferris


    leon8v wrote: »
    You would probably never know!!

    you're probably right, the dealer would probably make sure that the brake disks were cleaned off anyway. I suppose the exhaust would be the worst affected component, possibly suspension arms also.

    Wasn't there a big expose done by panorama in the 80's about the conditions that new UK cars were being stored under. In muddy fields etc - there was an outcry and the industry self regulated after that.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,699 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Ferris wrote: »
    I don't know if id want to own a car that had been stored for 3+ months in a salty atmosphere.

    What's the difference between this
    pic-import-med.jpg

    and stored inside this (out of the elements!)
    hual.JPG


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Dyflin wrote: »
    What's the difference between this
    pic-import-med.jpg

    and stored inside this (out of the elements!)
    hual.JPG

    giant lego bricks and obviously a huge ship?:cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ferris


    Dyflin wrote: »
    What's the difference between this
    pic-import-med.jpg

    and stored inside this (out of the elements!)
    hual.JPG

    Difference == Nothing, both are a stored in a salt water atmosphere. I'm saying that both are unacceptable places to store a brand new car. By the way if you think that the conditions for storage are any better inside the ship than outside then you're wrong. Most steel boats rust from the inside --> out.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,699 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Ferris wrote: »
    Most steel boats rust from the inside --> out.

    Pure and utter rubbish :rolleyes: Have any proof for this theory?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭S.I.R


    mike65 wrote: »
    Should be what they do in Britain - use old airforce bases which would surely be cheaper and safer.

    scary pic

    610x.jpg

    well, ireland doesnt get enough cars for something like that....


    dublin and/or cork is just about big enough to hold the few new/used cars imported/getting exported...


    but using the ships seems to be working aslong as they dont sink...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ferris


    Dyflin wrote: »
    Pure and utter rubbish :rolleyes: Have any proof for this theory?

    Steel boats rust on the topsides and in the bilges first as this is where there is sufficient air/moisture mix to rust. Very often the area's below the water will stay corrosion free as there is no oxygen (hence no oxidisation) - unless the cathodic protection is neglected, wherin its usually the prop/shaft that goes first - not the hull.

    The only proof I have is contained in my experience and in the physical sciences, both of which are considerable.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,699 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    And therein lies your problem, we're talking abut ships, not toy boats. Ships don't have topsides, they have superstructures, and I have spent long enough with a needle gun or chipping hammer in hand to know that ships rust from the outside in, not the other way around!

    These cars will be much better off tucked away in sealed environments inside a ship rather than in open car lots, exposed to all sorts of rain, frost, ice, pollution and direct sunlight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭leon8v


    S.I.R wrote: »
    but using the ships seems to be working aslong as they dont sink...

    If they are well insured you might see one or two sinking!!!:D


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