Late Night Live on Newstalk is Kaput.

mike65 · 01-12-2008 3:22pm #1

Just saw on another forum that its gone. It was rubbish IMO, a poorly presented panel discussion show which went out between 10 and midnight with a selection of guests that didnt encourage the casual listener.

Of course its demise also indicates a reigning in of more expensive formats, so whats next I wonder? I guess the sunday morning slot is safe as listenership would be quite healthy for that "Sunday paper reading" slot.

I can see stuff like Talking History and Culture Shock going though.

Mike

humberklog · 01-12-2008 3:30pm

I'd reckoned that Tom Dunne would've been better suited to a show at that time. Fully agree with Op that the show didn't exactly shine. No sad demise but what've they planned for that slot now? I'm usually over at the beeb by then but would welcome some Irish competition.

Badabing · 01-12-2008 3:48pm

There back to the 'best of Newstalk' at 10 i think, how did they get a national licence and not have a live show after 10'0 clock. They've gone downhill fast lately.

humberklog · 01-12-2008 3:54pm

I've been very impressed with NPR when Newstalk switched over live during the US elections. I listen to the radio through the ol' wireless so don't have digital option. I'd welcome it if newstalk switched over from 10 til...eh...Off the Ball came on!
Would it be expensive to do that though. NPR from 10 til 6a.m ish.?

rferguson · 01-12-2008 3:56pm

humberklog wrote: »

I'd reckoned that Tom Dunne would've been better suited to a show at that time. Fully agree with Op that the show didn't exactly shine. No sad demise but what've they planned for that slot now? I'm usually over at the beeb by then but would welcome some Irish competition.

I agree. I think the morning slot 9 -12 is the weakest of the day. Tom would be better at the 10pm slot. he annoys me first thing in the morning:mad:

Big Tone · 01-12-2008 5:09pm

Not surprising, maybe the JNLR figures reflected that.

One wonders how long more can credit-crunch-hit Denis O' Brien continue to fund what is essentially a monetary black hole and especially now that he is running two national stations.

BTW in 2009 there could be some station closures/mergers as the advertising revenue continues to decrease. RTE have already cut their rates by 25%...but that's another thread.

robo · 01-12-2008 5:27pm

As annoying as Orla and Declan could sometimes be, they had good shows and good topical guests. They dealt with current affairs reasonably well - with people on the show who had topics to deal with and an audience willing to listen.
But when you have it on at 10pm with Declan, well what politician, business person etc would want to be out at that hour. Yes it may be in their interets, but during the morning is the best time.

If they had Tom on in the evening, after Off The Ball, to discuss everything and anything - then that would be better. quirky guests and issues that are interesting rather than pressing would be good.

I see from the Newstalk website that Declan Carty is no longer a presenter.

I just think that they got this one all wrong and need to move Tom from the morning.

FlutterinBantam · 01-12-2008 6:04pm

Must admit I like Newstalk early on Sunday morning.

Whatever you say about Brendan O'Brien at least you have some live news as opposed to the rather dreary output from RTE up to 1100.

There is definitely a market for a discussion show around 2200 weekdays.

Vincent Browne proved that when he was on radio.

Badabing · 01-12-2008 7:15pm

Yep Tom Dunne is on again at 10 pm.

robo · 01-12-2008 7:16pm

Badabing wrote: »

Yep Tom Dunne is on again at 10 pm.

Yeh a repeat of the morning show :rolleyes:

Badabing · 01-12-2008 7:37pm

robo wrote: »

Yeh a repeat of the morning show :rolleyes:

Oh is he not on again at 10pm my bad;) Im afraid even with heavy editing you cant improve his bland show.

nhughes100 · 01-12-2008 7:47pm

Good riddence, Newstalk has gone seriously downhill, the right hook is barely listenable at the moment, even the wide angle which used to be very good has started to beat the "blame the public sector" drum a bit too much.

Please let Claire Byrne be next.

Dob74 · 01-12-2008 8:04pm

Shame, they most be in trouble. Moncief, Hook and off the ball a pretty good. I have to admit I love talking history. It would be a shame if they cancel it. But Dinny O'Brien most be feeling the pain of the slow down. His shares in independant media and aer lingus are in the toilet.

GSF · 01-12-2008 9:14pm

Sounds like there will be quite a few more redundancies to come in radio over the next few months. The weak stations that have just been hanging on will be the first to come under pressure.

CrowdedHouse · 01-12-2008 9:54pm

robo wrote: »

Yeh a repeat of the morning show :rolleyes:

NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo !

I was a fairly regular listener to Late Night Live,granted it didn't set the world on fire but was better than nothing or John Creedon ..

Back to Radio 5 I suppose

Sad Professor · 01-12-2008 10:40pm

I'm kinda sad to hear this. It wasn't a great show but it was better than nothing. I used love Vincent Browne on Radio 1 and Late Night Live filled that gap somewhat.

Irish talk radio is so f**king brutal. Matt Cooper is the only show I can sit through anymore without cringing. I've no problem with quirky, funny stuff but christ, Newstalk needs to find a balance. 5live does a really good job of this especially Simon Mayo. Hell, even Richard Bacon can handle some heavy stuff.

Badabing · 01-12-2008 10:54pm

They've had trouble with 10-12 slot going back to when they were a local dublin station i remember they had a show with Breffni Clack that lasted only a few months.

robo · 01-12-2008 11:16pm

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo !

I was a fairly regular listener to Late Night Live,granted it didn't set the world on fire but was better than nothing or John Creedon ..

Back to Radio 5 I suppose

That is what Irish radio does to us - sends us to other stations for variety, like the government send us up the north to save our cash :rolleyes:

bbability · 02-12-2008 10:35pm

It lasted longer than expected. Adrian Kennedy might not be a bad option. Something tabliodish. I remember Capital in London used to do a show called Late night Confessions with Jeremy Kyle. Maybe they could do something similar?

mike65 · 02-12-2008 11:11pm

:eek:

Mike

Aidric · 02-12-2008 11:15pm

Declan Carthy was the equivalent of a bad dose of Bovril.

FlutterinBantam · 03-12-2008 12:20am

Badabing wrote: »

They've had trouble with 10-12 slot going back to when they were a local dublin station i remember they had a show with Breffni Clack that lasted only a few months.

Please tell me no one by the name of Breffni Clack ever presented a radio show any any station anywhere in this Universe!!

Breffni Clack:eek::eek:

Firetrap · 03-12-2008 12:48am

She used to present a show on Today FM as well. Think it was called Late Night Love or something.

Back on topic - it's not looking good if Newstalk's axing shows like Late Night Live and Splanc (the Irish thing that I'd imagine nobody ever listened to). I wonder how much did they cost to produce? Repeats should only be allowed in the small hours of the morning, not at 10:00 at night ffs.

It's the thin edge of the wedge - I can see them going for Talking History next :mad:

connundrum · 03-12-2008 1:40am

I wouldn't go down the route of an Adrian Kennedy type show tbh, and I detest the way in which Newstalk find it acceptable to play repeats for nearly as long as the station is live on air.

What about sticking in documentaries? I remember RTE used to have weeks were they'd play a selection of half hour documentaries which were fairly decent.

Media students would throw something together for a recession busting price if worst came to worst

Bum Boy · 03-12-2008 4:56am

Where is Breffni these days?

It's a disgrace that they can get away with automation at 10pm weeknights. Weekend morning are pretty late to go live also. It's a shame.

humberklog · 03-12-2008 1:26pm

bbability wrote: »

Late night Confessions with Jeremy Kyle. Maybe they could do something similar?

I'm weak...my legs have given way.
I'm dizzy...is that blood from my eyes or nose?
I'm falling, gasping against the railings like Rashers Tierney.

Jeremy kyle is the modern protestant version of Fr Michael Cleary.

stepinnman · 03-12-2008 3:08pm

Firetrap wrote: »

Back on topic - it's not looking good if Newstalk's axing shows like Late Night Live and Splanc (the Irish thing that I'd imagine nobody ever listened to).

I think I may have been one of the few people that did listen to it! Not religiously in fairness but if I was in the car and it was on I'd leave it. My Irish isn't great but the banter was usually fairly liberally sprinkled with a few words of Bearla, especially during the chats with the guests. If nothing else the show seemed to be a pretty genuine attempt to fulfill the Irish language remit on a national station.

GSF · 03-12-2008 3:25pm

humberklog wrote: »

Jeremy kyle is the modern protestant version of Fr Michael Cleary.

More like the Spanish inquisition actually.;)

Dave! · 03-12-2008 4:57pm

Cut their national license, make them a Cork regional station or somethin.

Dub13 · 03-12-2008 4:59pm

What kind of numbers was Late night Live pulling in...?surly there is a market for a national night time talk based program..?

Dave! · 03-12-2008 5:03pm

I would have thought so. Surely intelligent people, which Adrian Kennedy doesn't cater for, listen to the radio at night time too?

Late Night Live on Newstalk is Kaput.

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