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di11on · 31-01-2008, 15:47

If someone posted an honest opinion of a service provided by a company in response to a request for such opinions by another boardsie and that person was subsequently telephoned by the company concerned in response to that post, asking for it to be removed - would this be considered an invasion of privacy?

**tbh** · 31-01-2008, 15:49

it depends, I think. how did they get your phone number? Were they "telling" you to remove it, or asking? What grounds did they give?

di11on · 31-01-2008, 15:57

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Originally Posted by tbh

it depends, I think. how did they get your phone number? Were they "telling" you to remove it, or asking? What grounds did they give?

They said "their advice was for it to be removed"... as if their would be some negative consequence (they didn't say this explicitly).

The grounds were that it was defamatory (which I don't believe it was).

They got my phone number from their records because I'm a customer of theirs. They deduced who I am from my signature, I guess.

**tbh** · 31-01-2008, 16:01

I don't think you could say it's an invasion of privacy, but it's certainly heavy handed. My advice would be to let the admins know (you could drop them a pm or report the post in question) and see what they have to say - if nothing else, it'll give them a heads-up. You could try stripping all subjective text from the post if there is somethere - i.e. don't say you got a **** service, explain exactly what happened and leave it to others to make their minds up. It's an interesting problem.

Sherifu · 31-01-2008, 16:01

Or maybe from your DOB and first name in your profile, however they found your phone number I would consider it harassment to be calling you about a post on here. Can you afford to cut ties with this company?

It's not very hard to deduce the company involved

**humanji** · 31-01-2008, 16:02

If you didn't say anything deflamatory then nuts to them, they're just being jerks. If you did, then either edit the post or remove it.

***bonkey*** · 31-01-2008, 16:02

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Originally Posted by di11on

They deduced who I am from my signature, I guess.

In this case, its not really an invasion of privacy. If you freely put information online which allows you to be identified, then you can't complain if someone uses it.

As pointed out, your public profile gives everything you need to get your name.
Your sig provides a telephone number to a family-run business.

What part of putting those two bits of information together is invading privacy, when you put both in the public domain?

**tbh** · 31-01-2008, 16:04

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Originally Posted by rkm

Or maybe from your DOB and first name in your profile, however they found your phone number I would consider it harassment to be calling you about a post on here. Can you afford to cut ties with this company?

It's not very hard to deduce the company involved

if its something you said today, I wouldn't see a problem with it, and I doubt they'll be able to do anything about it - I AM NOT A LEGAL HEAD.

**faceman** · 31-01-2008, 16:06

Can we see a link to the post in question?

Sherifu · 31-01-2008, 16:09

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Originally Posted by tbh

if its something you said today, I wouldn't see a problem with it

I would have a problem with it, I hate unsolicited calls.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbh

I doubt they'll be able to do anything about it - I AM NOT A LEGAL HEAD.

Me either, dunno.
"their advice was for it to be removed"... sounds like they're chancing their arm to me.

di11on · 31-01-2008, 16:09

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Originally Posted by faceman

Can we see a link to the post in question?

I'd rather keep this a generic discussion, for the moment at least :-)

**humanji** · 31-01-2008, 16:12

Well from the implied "negative consequence", then they're threatening and not just chancing their arm. Call them up and ask to speak to a manager.

**faceman** · 31-01-2008, 16:14

I understand, no probs.

heres my 2c (not to be construed as legal advice) without seeing your post.

It seems that your contact information is public info. Therefore if they put 2 and 2 together using public available info and you did not deny being the party in question, then their methods seem to be above board. This assumes they contacted you using the public phone number.

Without seeing the post i cant comment on whether or not you were libellous or not. Im not too familiar with your posts in general but if you have a connection to woodentoys.ie id imagine you dont post dodgy comments so as woodentoys.ie arent affiliated with your personal views.

If in doubt, seek legal advice though. You can get free legal advice in ireland but i dont have the link. They operate out of certain locations during the week. Im sure google will turn it up.

di11on · 31-01-2008, 16:14

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Originally Posted by humanji

Well from the implied "negative consequence", then they're threatening and not just chancing their arm. Call them up and ask to speak to a manager.

The expression "this comes from high up" was used. And by that I understand it was the manager's decision to call me.

**Oryx** · 31-01-2008, 16:15

I dont consider the call invading your privacy unless they contacted you on a number that is exdirectory. Anyone can call me, its my choice to take the call, or hang up if I feel the need, you know?

If your info is in your sig, they cant be blamed for deducing who you are.

If their request concerned a comment made today, I would advise the mods and otherwise ignore it. Seems to me you were just expressing your opinion.

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di11on Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Dublin Posts: 952 Adverts \| Friends	Invasion of privacy If someone posted an honest opinion of a service provided by a company in response to a request for such opinions by another boardsie and that person was subsequently telephoned by the company concerned in response to that post, asking for it to be removed - would this be considered an invasion of privacy?

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31-01-2008, 15:49	#2
tbh Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: 10, Ireland Road, Ireland Posts: 13,263 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Long Term Illness, The Thunderdome	it depends, I think. how did they get your phone number? Were they "telling" you to remove it, or asking? What grounds did they give?

31-01-2008, 16:01	#4
tbh Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: 10, Ireland Road, Ireland Posts: 13,263 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Long Term Illness, The Thunderdome	I don't think you could say it's an invasion of privacy, but it's certainly heavy handed. My advice would be to let the admins know (you could drop them a pm or report the post in question) and see what they have to say - if nothing else, it'll give them a heads-up. You could try stripping all subjective text from the post if there is somethere - i.e. don't say you got a **** service, explain exactly what happened and leave it to others to make their minds up. It's an interesting problem.

31-01-2008, 16:01	#5
Sherifu Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 17,419 Adverts \| Friends	Or maybe from your DOB and first name in your profile, however they found your phone number I would consider it harassment to be calling you about a post on here. Can you afford to cut ties with this company? It's not very hard to deduce the company involved

31-01-2008, 16:02	#6
humanji Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: with ceiling cat Posts: 13,820 Adverts \| Friends Mod: After Hours	If you didn't say anything deflamatory then nuts to them, they're just being jerks. If you did, then either edit the post or remove it.

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faceman Category Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In the Dreams of Fairies and Moo Cows Posts: 11,934 Adverts \| Friends CMod: No Drama Theatre Group, Humour, Theatre & Performing Arts, Arts, Arts Mods, Films	Can we see a link to the post in question?

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humanji Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: with ceiling cat Posts: 13,820 Adverts \| Friends Mod: After Hours	Well from the implied "negative consequence", then they're threatening and not just chancing their arm. Call them up and ask to speak to a manager.

31-01-2008, 16:14	#13
faceman Category Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In the Dreams of Fairies and Moo Cows Posts: 11,934 Adverts \| Friends CMod: No Drama Theatre Group, Humour, Theatre & Performing Arts, Arts, Arts Mods, Films	I understand, no probs. heres my 2c (not to be construed as legal advice) without seeing your post. It seems that your contact information is public info. Therefore if they put 2 and 2 together using public available info and you did not deny being the party in question, then their methods seem to be above board. This assumes they contacted you using the public phone number. Without seeing the post i cant comment on whether or not you were libellous or not. Im not too familiar with your posts in general but if you have a connection to woodentoys.ie id imagine you dont post dodgy comments so as woodentoys.ie arent affiliated with your personal views. If in doubt, seek legal advice though. You can get free legal advice in ireland but i dont have the link. They operate out of certain locations during the week. Im sure google will turn it up.

31-01-2008, 16:15	#15
Oryx Made of Ticky Tacky Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: On the hillside Posts: 13,177 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Health & Fitness, Paranormal, Sex & Sexuality, Spirituality	I dont consider the call invading your privacy unless they contacted you on a number that is exdirectory. Anyone can call me, its my choice to take the call, or hang up if I feel the need, you know? If your info is in your sig, they cant be blamed for deducing who you are. If their request concerned a comment made today, I would advise the mods and otherwise ignore it. Seems to me you were just expressing your opinion.