Airsofts of Irish Army issue past and present.

bullets · 16-09-2007 9:49pm #1

Anyone know what airsofts are out there that have
been used by the Irish Army present and in the past?
One of my goals is to buy replicas or airsofts of
of as much as I can of kit issued to the Irish army
both past and present.

I have the FN-FAL and soon on the way hopefully a Steyr AUG.
I would like to get an Enfield, Bren, Carl Gustaf, and BAP,
and eventually if possible a Bren MIII (which are too expensive to
get custom built at present).

~B

NakedDex · 16-09-2007 9:54pm

I believe they use the Steyr Scout as a sniper rifle but it's not being made by anyone yet (more is the pity). I wonder is anyone making the Gustav 81mm anti-tank launcher?!

Hivemind187 · 16-09-2007 10:04pm

The Mk43 Mod 0 GPMG is the current light machine gun replacing the Bren gun.

There is a pretty decent run down of the IDF issue list on wikipaedia (search Irish Army)

Just remember that the modern Irish Army camo pattern and uniforms are not legal for civilian ownership or use.

chalky · 16-09-2007 10:12pm

There's a Bren MkI & MkII and a GPMG on http://www.shootnscoot.co.uk/. Bit pricey though, and I don't know where you'd get the MkIII

The Irish army use the Accuracy International as their sniper rifle. I saw a couple of people with these, not sure where they got them though

Also I found a BAP somewhere before (I think it was UNcompany) I'll try and find a link for that

EDIT:
http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=299
there it is

Captain Chaos · 17-09-2007 6:09pm

The AUG A1,A2 and A3, JG, CA and TM

HK USP 9mm, KSC/KWA do the .45 version. KJW do the 9mm.

testicle · 17-09-2007 11:19pm

NakedDex wrote:

I believe they use the Steyr Scout

They don't.

Alvin T. Grey · 18-09-2007 5:32pm

Don't forget the MP5s.

Guns.Ie · 21-09-2007 12:17am

The FN FAL. King Arms make a full metal version

chalky · 21-09-2007 2:45am

Guns.Ie wrote:

The FN FAL. King Arms make a full metal version

He has one already, which is why I didn't mention it.

Alvin T. Grey wrote:

Don't forget the MP5s.

If you're gonna include what the ARW use, that list is gonna get a hell of a lot bigger

Captain Chaos · 21-09-2007 2:48am

It wouldn't get too much bigger.

That being said, I don't think you can get airsoft .50cal sniper rifles.

chalky · 21-09-2007 3:00am

Captain Chaos wrote:

It wouldn't get too much bigger.

That being said, I don't think you can get airsoft .50cal sniper rifles.

You can, but they are very expensive, and a bit too powerfull. And I meant to say "have" as opposed to "use". afaik they have a very varied armoury, so as to get experience with a large no. of different weapons (not too sure of this, so don't quote me)

bullets wrote:

I would like to get an Enfield, Bren, Carl Gustaf, and BAP

I assume you're talking about the Carl gustav smg and not the Carl gustav 84mm recoilless rifle (both of which the Irish army use/have used)

bullets · 21-09-2007 8:37am

chalky wrote:

You can, but they are very expensive, and a bit too powerfull. And I meant to say "have" as opposed to "use". afaik they have a very varied armoury, so as to get experience with a large no. of different weapons (not too sure of this, so don't quote me)

I assume you're talking about the Carl gustav smg and not the Carl gustav 84mm recoilless rifle (both of which the Irish army use/have used)

The 50 Cal is awesome but way to expensive I forget where I saw it
but it was unreal.

Yep want a Carl gustav SMG. Ugly as hell and I never liked it much in my FCA days as I was crap at shooting the real steel. (But one of the best at firing the FAL)
When you were a Cpl they whipped away your FN and gave you a Gustav instead
whenever you went on escort duty

~B

SpitfireIV · 21-09-2007 10:19am

bullets wrote:

I would like to get an Enfield...

You'll have to get a No1 MkI*** a No1 MkIII (or MkIII*) and a No4 (Mk I or II or 1/2 or 1/3....:p ) all of which the Irish army have had over the years.

I jest

dont some UK company do a No4T, dont know what the power of it is, but it was pretty expensive. If I could get the raw hardware (ie reciever, bolt and barrell) I'd consider making a SMLE look alike, I had considered it when I was making a new VSR stock, but I couldnt bring myself to hacking or chopping the VSR metal

......maybe I can pick up a cheap second hand one?

Hivemind187 · 21-09-2007 11:07am

As far as I have been able to find out the ARW have quite a large selection of weapons and it is a requirement (as is it with most special forces) to have some experience with a broad selection of arms.

Specific models known to be used by the Rangers include (but certainly not limited to) P90's, G36's, Spas 12, Super 90, AW50, SG1, MP5, AUG, Minimi, plus anything in the Irish army armoury.

Remember, special forces units tend to adapt their equipment to their situation so its a little difficult to pin down "what they use" as opposed to what they officially have access to.

Lemming · 21-09-2007 11:24am

chalky wrote:

I assume you're talking about the Carl gustav smg and not the Carl gustav 84mm recoilless rifle (both of which the Irish army use/have used)

I got all giddy and laughed manically when I read that ....

Lads, don't be putting ideas of 84mm recoiless AEGs in my mind ...

padmundo · 21-09-2007 12:04pm

Lemming wrote:

I got all giddy and laughed manically when I read that ....

Lads, don't be putting ideas of 84mm recoiless AEGs in my mind ...

Someone mention the Carl Gustav.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okQgKj_viCA

pte1058563 · 18-11-2007 8:22pm

hey all , i just reciently found this site , good thing about it they are based in ireland so shipping is not to dear. they have the steyr aug.:D and many other airsoft guns
http://www.digitalwareshill.ie

zero19 · 18-11-2007 8:26pm

There are plenty of irish retailers selling better quality steyrs than those ones...

Rew · 18-11-2007 9:00pm

Hivemind187 wrote: »

As far as I have been able to find out the ARW have quite a large selection of weapons and it is a requirement (as is it with most special forces) to have some experience with a broad selection of arms.

Specific models known to be used by the Rangers include (but certainly not limited to) P90's, G36's, Spas 12, Super 90, AW50, SG1, MP5, AUG, Minimi, plus anything in the Irish army armoury.

Remember, special forces units tend to adapt their equipment to their situation so its a little difficult to pin down "what they use" as opposed to what they officially have access to.

The AUG is their primary rifle, the others are for familiarity. MP5 for the black role stuff. P229 is their side arm. Sniper is the AI in .338 and .5, SG1 in black role. I can never remeber the standard shotgun. Ranger loads out is pretty similar to a regualr Irish one with a few tweaks.

Genghiz Cohen · 18-11-2007 9:05pm

pte1058563 wrote: »

hey all , i just reciently found this site , good thing about it they are based in ireland so shipping is not to dear. they have the steyr aug.:D and many other airsoft guns
http://www.digitalwarehouse.ie/index.cfm/page/shop/catId/240

hmmm, 1 post and instantly pitching a retailer?

NakedDex · 18-11-2007 10:30pm

Rew wrote: »

The AUG is their primary rifle, the others are for familiarity. MP5 for the black role stuff. P229 is their side arm. Sniper is the AI in .338 and .5, SG1 in black role. I can never remeber the standard shotgun. Ranger loads out is pretty similar to a regualr Irish one with a few tweaks.

Their adopted sidearm is the USP as of August this year, prior to that it was the BAP. The AI AW.338/.50 are only the anti material rifles (and is rarely used by anyone other than ARW), their anti personell rifles are the Steyr SSG-69 and AI L96. The shotgun of choice is the Benelli M4 but isn't widely used.
Regular army doesn't use the MP5, (naval service sometimes do however). It's more likely that the, should a unit require short barrel weapons they use the short barrel for the Steyr AUG since it's a 5 second barrel swap requireing no more training and no load changes.

chalky · 18-11-2007 10:37pm

NakedDex wrote: »

Their adopted sidearm is the USP as of August this year, prior to that it was the BAP. The AI AW.338/.50 are only the anti material rifles (and is rarely used by anyone other than ARW), their anti personell rifles are the Steyr SSG-69 and AI L96. The shotgun of choice is the Benelli M4 but isn't widely used.
Regular army doesn't use the MP5, (naval service sometimes do however). It's more likely that the, should a unit require short barrel weapons they use the short barrel for the Steyr AUG since it's a 5 second barrel swap requireing no more training and no load changes.

Rew's talking about the ARW who use the P229 as their sidearm.

Captain Chaos · 18-11-2007 10:43pm

chalky wrote: »

Rew's talking about the ARW who use the P229 as their sidearm.

I thought it was the P226 that they used, front line forces don't usually go for compact pistols.

NakedDex · 18-11-2007 10:47pm

Ah I see, my apologies then. I thought he meant regular army.

Their full loadout is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Army_Rangers

Gatling · 18-11-2007 10:53pm

ARWs MP5 is the MP5 A E , basicly an MP5 with a ris system ,the AUG is a carbine sometimes fitted with a C-mag , also they have been known to use the SA-80 ,the G3 is sometimes used in marksman role ,the bennelli shotgun and the remington shotgun and possibly the spas 12

Captain Chaos · 18-11-2007 10:55pm

Gatling wrote: »

ARWs MP5 is the MP5 A E , basicly an MP5 with a ris system ,the AUG is a carbine sometimes fitted with a C-mag , also they have been known to use the SA-80 ,the G3 is sometimes used in marksman role ,the bennelli shotgun and the remington shotgun and possibly the spas 12

A here come on why oh why would they want to use the SA80 other than for evaluation purposes.

chalky · 18-11-2007 11:08pm

Captain Chaos wrote: »

I thought it was the P226 that they used, front line forces don't usually go for compact pistols.

Actually I was thinking that myself, but then rew mentioned the 229 and confused me.

Gatling · 18-11-2007 11:11pm

im only the messenger, ok the SA80 should be one of the best weapons in real life ,but anyone who know the sa ,know it was full of faults until H&K fixed most of the worst parts,

Rew · 19-11-2007 12:45am

chalky wrote: »

Actually I was thinking that myself, but then rew mentioned the 229 and confused me.

Yeah sorry my fault I ment P226, 229 is the compact version 226.

Rew · 19-11-2007 12:57am

NakedDex wrote: »

Their adopted sidearm is the USP as of August this year, prior to that it was the BAP. The AI AW.338/.50 are only the anti material rifles (and is rarely used by anyone other than ARW), their anti personell rifles are the Steyr SSG-69 and AI L96. The shotgun of choice is the Benelli M4 but isn't widely used.
Regular army doesn't use the MP5, (naval service sometimes do however). It's more likely that the, should a unit require short barrel weapons they use the short barrel for the Steyr AUG since it's a 5 second barrel swap requireing no more training and no load changes.

Your a bit off the mark on some of that. .338 is a sniper caliber with better range then .308. .5 is anti-material alright.

Never heard of the Steyr SSG-69 being used by the Army. Before the AI its was FN's with optical sights, and before that it was LE's.

No one outside the ARW uses .338, .5 or shotguns. The EOD robot has a shotgun thats about it.

Navy don't use MP5's they use USP's and Steyrs like everyone else.

Short barrel Steyr is in use with the Cav units and ARW for ages, but not outside that.

Gatling · 19-11-2007 1:09am

Rew wrote: »

Your a bit off the mark on some of that. .
.5 or shotguns. The EOD robot has a shotgun thats about it.

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the army use shotguns when overseas as( dont laugh) anti snake in the leb/liberia or as you said the ARW,

why are we on this subject

Airsofts of Irish Army issue past and present.

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