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Film Of The Week #18 - Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind

  • 11-05-2007 08:28PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338013/

    Hmm, I've not actually seen this one myself, even though it has been on my to do list for some time now. Oh well, I'm sure I'll get to it sooner or later, as I generally like films that Charlie Kaufman has written, Being John Malkovich, Adaptation, and Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind.

    Anyway, discuss!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,452 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    I thought that this film tried too hard to be quirky, and I ended up not liking it at all. Slow moving, meandering, difficult to follow and no real pay-off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭Jello


    Just finished watching this actually, it really is fantastic. I can understand why some people hate it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,326 ✭✭✭Zapp Brannigan


    Yes, yes, yes!
    My favourite film ever. Carrey is incredible in it, really stellar performance.
    I know some people hate it, but watching it the 1st time I just loved it. For me, no film comes close.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Endasaurus


    I loved it very much.

    Its conception and the way was put across on screen was very very clever. It was heavy in fantasy but the relationship always felt real to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Captain Smiggy


    Excellent film, do quite like charlie kauffman myself...didn't think confessions was all that great though. but i digress; excellent film, structurally fantastic.
    Carey is a revelation(an overused word i know, but it applies here). the pathos and...normality of his character are astounding.
    perfectly captures relationships(the whole "libary" thing on his tape really reminds of one of the things about my ex that used to drive me nucking futs) both in how great, and how awful they can be.

    Honestly, can't find fault with it, and i'm a picky bollix...


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,867 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Since this is probably my favourtiest movie ever, and since it's my first nomination to get chosen for fotw (:) ) I'm going to write a lenghty one.

    Being John Malckovich, Adaptation, and Human Nature are all excellent films. They really were stunningly original, hilarious pieces of work. The Spike Jonze / Charlie Kaufman combo (which produced BJM and Adaptation) were the films that were always given the focus of the attention. They were quirky, original pieces that lacked emotional punch - and this didn't really matter. Michel Gondry (Human Nature and ETSOTSM) had always said that he was waiting for Kaufman to give him the grade A script. ESOTSM was it.

    The story is as high concept as the previous films - Joel (Jim Carrey) decides to have the memories of ex-girlfried Clementine (Kate Winslet, ever changing hair colour and all) erased after she does the same. However, once the deletion begins, he regrets his decision and tries to fight back. This is, however, an extremely complicated narrative (as I found out when studying this film for a college project recently) with all kinds of subplots and the like, so I'm not going to get into it any more.

    First - I must praise the genius of Gondry. He is by far the most exciting director working at the moment IMO. This film is superbly well put together - reality and memories are constantly being blurred together. This is a difficult thing to achieve effectively, but Gondry never breaks the diegesis of the world. Memories distort (see: the falling car, faceless characters) as they are deleted, and Gondry achieves this through refreshingly traditional special effects - there are only sparce amounts of CGI used here.

    The cast are uniformily excellent. Kate Winslet - as always - is the standout. She is the most likable kook since Annie Hall. Jim Carrey proves his acting worth after the Truman show, with a very minimalist, mumbling performance. The chemistry between these two characters - the extrovert and introvert - is powerful, and like all good romances you really want these two to get back together, despite the setbacks their relationship has clearly suffered. The supporting players - Mark Ruffallo, spectacularly creepy Elijah Wood, quirky Kirsten Dunst, Tom Wilkinson - all do their darndest with limited but important roles.

    But the most impressive part of this film is the way typical genre and narrative constraints are turned on their heads. The narrative structure is completely skew-ways. 20 minutes in, we jump without warning to a completely different sequence of events. The main memory deletion story plays out in reverse order (i.e. Joel and Clementine's break up is the first memory to be erased, and then their relationship plays out in reverse, while Joel actively participates in them). And this main plot is constantly interrupted with 'real-world' interludes which focus on the employees deleting the memories. I'll be honest and say it is a difficult structure to follow, but come the end, as everything has fallen into place, you really be thouroughly impressed at how well Gondry and Kaufman have handled the story. Everything makes a wonderful kind of sense. This is romance, but not as you know it.

    While the previous Kaufman scripts were borderline masterpieces, by adding true emotion to this film, this crosses that border effortlessly. The only film that has come close to reaching the dizzying standard left by Eternal Sunshine is Gondry's fourth film, the absurdly under-viewed 'The Science of Sleep'. Taken as a duo, these two films are probably my two favourite of the decade so far. But Eternal Sunshine came first, and provides one of the finest - if not the finest - cinematic experience I have had to pleasure to sit through.

    That said, I can see where anyone who says this is a crock of steaming s**t is coming from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    i adore this film. it's fantastic, and made me respect jim carey more then i already do. great writing, direction & acting. twisted plot to say the least. it ticks all the boxes as far as i'm concerned... to the point that i've had full on arguments about it with people who don't like it at all.

    i regret never seeing it on the big screen...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,784 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    One of the best films I've ever seen and bound to go down as a classic. Depite being quite abstract it's actually very easy to follow. Didn't stop most of the audience I saw the film with leave within the first half hour. Anyway, their loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭nervous_twitch


    I think this film is the epitomy of romance for the modern-day viewer; the characters are so vivid, so real, and the relationship (warts and all) is the most credible on-screen connection of todays cinema.

    I dunno, it pulls my heartstrings every time :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    alot of people praise Carrey's acting in it, not to take away from his steller performance but kate Winslet was absolutly perfect in it, she played the part brilliantly without flaw.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,452 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Am I the lone dissenting voice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    I decided to go grab this film after hearing the praise on here (and all the previous fotw's being fantastic), but was very skeptical about it being a romance film, with Jim Carrey in a serious role. Dear jebus though I was surprised, really did deserve its spot this week, absolutely superb film. Theres so much subtlety in it, along with a pretty heavy main story line, and the acting is top notch all round, definately the best Elijah Wood performance I've seen, he was such a great creep, and Jim Carrey and Kate Winslet were both second to none, definately worth 2 hours of my time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,712 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I agree with everything that's been said and more, excellent film. Very eccentric and wacky at times but I also thought it a very realistic portrayal of what romantic relationships are like and how we never seem to learn from them.

    Carrey and Winslet get back together at the end but nothing has changed and the final shot of them running through the snow is actually from earlier in the film. So they are seemingly doomed to repeat everything (falling in love, becoming sick of each other, breaking up, getting the other erased from their memory, getting back together again) over and over again. It's quite fitting and ironic therefore that the song that opens the movie is "Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Picked up the DVD on the cheap yesterday, so I'm sure I'll get around to seeing it. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    I personally enjoyed it, but I can see how it divides opinion. Acquired taste needed I'd say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    I did watch this, but I'll be honest, I'm luke-warm about it. Carrey was brilliant, as was Winslet, and there was no fault with the direction, but I did feel a little underwhelmed. Not sure why.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    I just realised if you watch the film whilst extremely drunk then Clem has none of the initial quirky charm that Joel (and the audience) feel for her. (this is the first time I've noticed this in 5 or so viewings)

    Clearly alcohol is the way the avoid potentially unsuccessful relationships! Beer for all, dye for no-one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    I'm a big fan. Quality performances and a pretty high concept. What's not to like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,177 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Just watched this again, about 2 years after seeing it for the first time. Made a lot more sense this time around. The trick is to watch the colour of Clementine's hair...

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,011 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Should have coined in on this first time round.. but I too adore this film.

    When I first saw the trailer using 'Mr Blue Sky' by ELO, it was a trailer that grabbed me and kept me wanting more. Unfortunately, I had a feeling I'd be underwhelmed by the film.. how wrong I was?!

    It's a wonderful film.. very well written, had fantastic performances (from Winslet and Carrey especially) but even the supporting actors are all very interesting (from Ruffalo to Wilkinson).

    It's essentially a romance film at heart.. but it's so well made and as people have said, it's a very realistic portrayal of relationships, and you have to admit it's innovate and handles the subject matter extremely well (especially our characters moving throughout the memories while they're being erased).

    Probably one of my favourite films..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Bump.

    This was on Channel 4 again tonight.

    What an utterly, utterly marvelous movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    yeah blah blah blah whatever, charlie kaufman is like so out there, and micky gondry is like a total visionary and winslet shines and carrey says that thing and and and its ........ after a while you realise its average and the only thing going for it is kirsten dunst. and you know what i mean. and you agree


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    longshanks wrote: »
    yeah blah blah blah whatever, charlie kaufman is like so out there, and micky gondry is like a total visionary and winslet shines and carrey says that thing and and and its ........ after a while you realise its average and the only thing going for it is kirsten dunst. and you know what i mean. and you agree

    No I dont agree with you. As a matter of fact, from now on I will actually go out of my way to disagree with you, just to show that I don't agree with you. Even If I fully believe what you say, I will disagree just for the sake of disagreeing with you. The earth is round you say? Bitch please, its flat as a pancake.


  • Posts: 879 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I did watch this, but I'll be honest, I'm luke-warm about it. Carrey was brilliant, as was Winslet, and there was no fault with the direction, but I did feel a little underwhelmed. Not sure why.

    +1 to the above, the acting was top notch, but for some reason I just didn't enjoy it the way I should have, given the plot and script.

    My wife was quite "meh" about it too.

    Perhaps it's the rather bleak and somber tone of the movie that puts me off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    Archimedes wrote: »
    No I dont agree with you. As a matter of fact, from now on I will actually go out of my way to disagree with you, just to show that I don't agree with you. Even If I fully believe what you say, I will disagree just for the sake of disagreeing with you. The earth is round you say? Bitch please, its flat as a pancake.

    archimedes never licked dick. disagree with that bigman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    nothing wrong with licking dick.


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