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29-07-2006, 10:17   #1
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Cockapoo Puppies!

Hi I dont know what everyones reaction is going to be with these dogs but anyways I really want a cockapoo dog. For those who dont know what a cockapoo dog is its a cocker spaniel crossed with a poodle and they are the cutest thing alive! Does anyone know ANYONE who has one or breeds them I cant seem to find anyone in Ireland that does ! Thanks in advance!
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29-07-2006, 10:36   #2
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NO WAY could I admit with a straight face I own a cockapoo.
I'll stick with me jack russell x's

Apart from being " so cute " what are the breed characteristics - good points v breed defects....... Potential problems etc ?
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29-07-2006, 10:59   #3
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Ok when I first heard the name I way like no way! They're meant to have a brilliant temperment and no health problems heres a picture of a cockapoo puppy:
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" meant to "

Do you have any research into this or any facts to go on or are you just accepting the word of breeders ......

I just don't get this deliberate cross breeding of dogs - there's enough mongrels out there - 30,000 dogs died in this country in pounds - that figure doesn't include private vets figures for put to sleep.

Please re-consider adopting a dog from a shelter - any puppy can have a great temperament if rared correctly and adopted at the right age - 8 weeks.
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29-07-2006, 14:51   #5
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Well they are not a real breed so you are going to have any of the health problems or behaviour problems of either cocker spaniel or the poodle. The biggest thing to look out for is ear infections (cocker spaniels are notorious for that). The require a hell of a lot of grooming also.
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29-07-2006, 16:12   #6
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Well its not just a late fashion they have been bred since 1970's... not long I know but there are breeders trying to make them a breed and have puppies with 4 generations of cockapoos. I have already have had 2 dogs from the pound and I still have one and I have researched littlely about them! I am just interested to know if there is an actual breeder. I realise they will need a lot of grooming but having a horse I know what a lot of grooming is so I dont really mind
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I am sorry to burst your bubble, OP, but they are at potential risk of health problems common to either Toy Poodles or Cocker Spaniels. This can include:

* hip dysplasia
* progressive retinal atrophy
* epilepsy
* poor temperaments
* allergies
* skin and ear problems
* Legg-Calve-Perthes
* luxating patellas
* hypothyroidism
* cryptorchidism
* gastric torsion

Nice list, hm?

*There are many unethical breeders who have cashed in on the cute name of the "breed" and who continually breed poodles and cockers together to get the "cockapoos" for their clientele. If "cockapoo" breeders were actually interested in establishing this as a real breed, you would see them forming a breed club and hammering out a descriptive standard. You would find them selectively breeding "cockapoos" to "cockapoos", making an effort to keep the dogs they thought would best contribute to the quality of their dogs, keeping detailed breeding records that can later form records acceptable to
the Kennel Club, and selling their extra puppies on non breeding agreements.*

This is like many other unfortunate *breeds* an American invention aimed to cash in on the cuteness factor.
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ah the pure breed arguement again, ya gotta love it, as long as there is a demand there will be people supplyin!!!! people need to be educated on these things and not just see a pic of a dog and think ah cute i would love one!!!!
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30-07-2006, 19:09   #9
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I am sorry to burst your bubble, OP, but they are at potential risk of health problems common to either Toy Poodles or Cocker Spaniels. This can include:

* hip dysplasia
* progressive retinal atrophy
* epilepsy
* poor temperaments
* allergies
* skin and ear problems
* Legg-Calve-Perthes
* luxating patellas
* hypothyroidism
* cryptorchidism
* gastric torsion

Nice list, hm?

*There are many unethical breeders who have cashed in on the cute name of the "breed" and who continually breed poodles and cockers together to get the "cockapoos" for their clientele. If "cockapoo" breeders were actually interested in establishing this as a real breed, you would see them forming a breed club and hammering out a descriptive standard. You would find them selectively breeding "cockapoos" to "cockapoos", making an effort to keep the dogs they thought would best contribute to the quality of their dogs, keeping detailed breeding records that can later form records acceptable to
the Kennel Club, and selling their extra puppies on non breeding agreements.*

This is like many other unfortunate *breeds* an American invention aimed to cash in on the cuteness factor.
Ok well my horse has an allergy disease called sweet itch which is not pretty or fun but when you got an animal you dont just dont get it to play with you have to look after it! And it doesnt bother me if a dog is more work... anyway all I wanted to know was if there was a breeder in Ireland and instead of getting a helpful answer I got a lecture! Plus I think getting a dog like a cockapoo is better that those tiny chihuahuas that you put in your bag who are bred for their size but because of their size their weak!
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30-07-2006, 19:39   #10
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Well, if you want to buy a dog with a list of potential health problems an arm long then you go right ahead.

After all, they are sooo cute and you know obviously what you are doing .

Pink world, eh ?
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I was certainly not having a go at you, OP. There just this cute puppy syndrome going on too much these days and people ending up in a world of hurt when they find out about the potential problems.
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...but when you got an animal you dont just dont get it to play with you have to look after it! And it doesnt bother me if a dog is more work...
How about the dog then?

It just might be bothered by something that is agonizingly painful like hip dysplasia. And you can't brush and comb away a poor temperament either ...
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How about the dog then?

It just might be bothered by something that is agonizingly painful like hip dysplasia. And you can't brush and comb away a poor temperament either ...
Yeah but you can get a poor temperment ina purebred anyway! My dog is a rottie x lab and everyone thinks he should have a muzzle! And he has NEVER growled or anything to anyone! And acts like a puppy...
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If you get a dog as a pup no matter what breed it's the way it's brought up, socialised and trained that will deceide the temprement. I'm not into what is the latest fad or breed to have but I have met this breed of dog and tbh they were just as pleasant as any other dog pure or mix breed. Hip dispasia etc can happen in any breed, ok more are prone to it. Collies are but does that mean we shouldn't have collies as pets.
I guess the danger is with any pb or latest trend is that puppy farmers will twig and start milling them out and you will end up with all sorts of problems. There are responisble breeders out there sadly there are more irresposible ones than responsible.

The thing is no matter what breed you want is to be very careful where you get the dog from.
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If you get a dog as a pup no matter what breed it's the way it's brought up, socialised and trained that will deceide the temprement.
I am sorry but this is rubbish, alot of the dogs temperament is already in its genes, nervousness for example can well be pased on from mother to pup and not just during the time it spends with the Mother.
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