'Overnight Guests' and College rooms

Strictly speaking, if someone's going to be staying you have to have him/her signed in in the overnight guest book at Front Arch before midnight that night. In practice, it only really matters if you need to get back in after midnight when the gate's closed. Some nights you might say "X is signed in" and they just wave you by; other times, they're there with book in hand. I've known people to get into ruckuses trying to get guests in unsigned. To my immense surprise, I once got away with ringing Front Arch at 11.30, and asking the guard nicely if he would sign someone in for me . To be honest, it's not as big a pain as it sounds - although it is completely pointless.

As for the bit about not having them too often, I really don't think they actually keep track. If you were acting the maggot in some other way they might check it and use it as a stick to beat you. But I've never heard of it happening.

If you live in Goldsmith Hall facing out to the street you'd possibly manage to avoid it all by tossing your keycard out the window to your waiting guest in, say, a cigarette box. Not that I speak from experience.

Don't know what the story is in Halls.

pendragon wrote:

Hmmm not as bad as I thought it might be, but sounds a bit worse than at my undergrad college... sigh Would you advise trying to rent a flat instead?

www.daft.ie gives quite a good overview of what the rental market is like in Dublin, it's a listings site for flats, houses, apts and spare rooms.

Location wise the campus is hard to beat, two minutes from pub to bed can't be bettered. But, if you want to get some absolute peace and quiet, get some fresh air (the air pollution isn't really that bad, but the college is in a city centre. My college window opened out onto the outside of college and i was washing the net curtain every 3 weeks) and need to get away from the college and 'work' there are some nice areas a bit further out.

Fundamentally, imho, if you like city centre living and aren't too pushed about having huge amounts of space and don't mind the rules and regs the campus could suit you. Few (if any) 1st years live in the campus, so it's a little bit more relaxed. There's a nice sense of history in some of the buildings as well.

The Trinity Hall site is predominantly for first year students, some second years, one year international students and has some areas reserved for post grads. It's in a suburb, not very far from college, so does strike a balance of sorts: the convenience of college organised rooms with internet, etc, with (again) the rules and regs, and the slight distance from the coll itself. There's a thread somewhere here on the board ('the trinity hall thread' - imagination is something us tcd students don't lack) about halls.

stargal wrote:

I've never seen it written down anywhere that you have to sign someone in if you're both living on campus.

I think if falls under the all encompassing, nothing defined, but it can be invoked at the drop of a hat - 'fire regulations'.

xeduCat wrote:

* You don't have to read this bit if you're not interested. So stop now, before it's too late. Still with me? OK, it's expressio unius est exclusio alterius - to express one or more things excludes others. So the fact that they wrote an exhaustive list means that they meant to exclude places not on the list. Eujsdem generis is when you have something like 'attics, halls and other spaces' which means that the other spaces have to be in the same category (genus) as attics and halls. But without a clause making it non-exclusive, any lawyer would that provision as absolutely subject to expressio unius. So there!

I'm just waiting for Angry Banana to make a comment...

Andrew 83 wrote:

That one really is enforced, I never even try to ride through now I've been so well trained by shouts of 'off that bike'.

Me too.

That's something the security at the nassau gate take very seriously, i've seen them chase renegade cyclists down the ramp.

Now, if only they'd do something about the herds of tourists that stand around in stagnant pools of 'ain't it quaint' exclamations....

Dead Ed wrote:

The only place I get hassle from security is for cyclin' ... across the cricket pitch.

You managed to cycle through the cricket strip itself there the other day sans problèmes.

It's exactly 9 minutes walk from the door of my apartment to the Milltown Luas stop, or the length of the Tool song Lateralus. It takes ~12 minutes from Milltown to St Stephen's Green (depending on how slow or fast the drivers go, some put the foot down and others drive like grannies), then about 5-7 minutes walk to the Arts block. Add a further 6-7 to get to the Hamilton. (Yes, I have got my timing down to +/- 1 minute.)

I walk very fast for a 5'9'' guy too, so you can't really improve on that, unless you run.

Cycling takes approximately 15 minutes as far as I've been told.

The 14a bus will get you from Halls to college in about 20 minutes, but that's with virtually no traffic. Rush hour, you'd nearly be quicker walking.

original_psycho wrote:

They are'nt too strict in halls... i've had friends over and there was never really a problem..

I think if your quiet when your coming in they don't hassle you.. that said I live quite near the gate

I think it can also depend on the other ppl in the apt, if they start complaining about excessive guests (and, to some ppl excessive can be 1 guest - the infinite variety of humanity...) then the Powers that Be may take action.

I nearly always walked to the Milltown Luas stop in 5 minutes, from House 80. If I had a 11am class I'd leave at 10.30, walk 5 minutes, wait on average 5 minutes for a Luas, 15 min max journey to St Stephens Green, then 5 minutes walk to the Arts Block. If I was really taking my time the walk to the Luas would be nearly 10 minutes. Maybe I'm a fast walker, it only takes me 35 minutes to walk to whole way into college from Halls sometimes.

jd wrote:

me waves at dr. barrett!

All hail!