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11-03-2006, 02:13   #16
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Thanks for your replies everyone but if you think if the name Aoibheann, where I live (south Ireland) this is pronounced at Av-een, thats how I thought Aoibhe would be Ava.
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Where is south Ireland?

Aoibheann is pronounced "Eevan".

I very much doubt if it's pronounced 'Av-een' in any dialect.

The letters 'aoi' at the beginning of an Irish language word are pronounced something like 'ee' in English.

I would be interested to know in which dialect it is pronounced differently.
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11-03-2006, 02:16   #17
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You pronounce it 'E-fah' like
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11-03-2006, 03:54   #18
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Aoibhe is pronounced ee-vah. Never in my life have I heard it pronounced "Avah". Why not just use an British name, job done.
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11-03-2006, 04:30   #19
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I'd go for ee-vah too, I don't see how it could be pronounced ava at all....seems totally out of it.
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13-03-2006, 10:19   #20
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To Mishasta

I am acutally from Co. Tipperary, and Aoibheann/ Aoibhin is always pronounced and read as Ay-Veen, therefore thats why we thought maybe Aoibhe would be pronounced Ava
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13-03-2006, 15:20   #21
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As Míshásta said, aoi is pronounced as 'ee' and has been so for thousands of year.
If the notion of using fadas is too confusing for you i suggest you should go along with what others have said and just use and English name!

However, if you really do want to Gaelicise the name and can't bear the trouble that an accent produces try, Aodhbha. That sounds like Ava though i doubt your child will appreciate the spelling!
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13-03-2006, 15:47   #22
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I'm not a conoisseur of Munster Irish, but to the best of my knowledge (which may not mean anything ), at least in Connemara, any word I can think of that starts with "aoi" (whether used as a name or not), sounds like it starts with "ee" (as in the English word "sleep").

If you want a long "a" sound, as has been suggested on a couple of occasions above, "Éabha" (the fada turns the leading "E" into "ay" as in "hay") is the closest match I can think of.

Having said all of this, if you like a name, whether it conforms to the norms or not, go with it. In the end, as long as the person being given said name can correct people as and when necessary, what's the difference?

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14-03-2006, 01:17   #23
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I am acutally from Co. Tipperary, and Aoibheann/ Aoibhin is always pronounced and read as Ay-Veen, therefore thats why we thought maybe Aoibhe would be pronounced Ava
We'll have to agree to disagree. I think you should check it out on some of the other Irish language forums.

In any case, I wish her a long, healthy and happy life.
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19-03-2006, 14:58   #24
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Thanks everyone, but we want to try and avoid using fadas to prevent confusion.
Prevent confusion? You seem to be adding to the confusion by using non-standard pronunciation for the name. "Aoibhe" should be pronounced like "Aoife", but with a "v" instead of "f". And for those familiar with X-SAMPA, it's /"i:.v@/. I suggest you use "Éabha", or just use the Anglicised version "Ava".
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I'd agree with the majority consensus on this that 'Aoi' should be pronounced 'ee'.
But if you're still not convinced Colleen, I'd suggest you send an e-mail someone in the Irish departments of one of the universities. They'd be quite happy to help I'm sure.
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Re the dialect confusion here, I'm from Cavan, my name is Aoibheann (obviously ) and it's pronounced Ay-veen/Aiveen/or somesuch here. Now I think we go by Ulster Irish, though with Cavan, you'd never know, even though we do live in the province...
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29-03-2006, 15:06   #27
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Aoibhe sounds like Eva
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29-03-2006, 15:23   #28
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The link provided earlier in the thread was a thread I posted with exactly the same dilemma. We called our daughter Ava but were also hoping to spell it Aoibhe. We looked under every stone and asked anywhere we could and never really got a conclusive answer.

The majority would say that Aoibhe is pronounced Eva but as far as we could see there was no correct way as there are examples of similar names that contradict either rule (ie. Aoife being pronounced Efa but Aoibeann being pronounce Ayveen, I also know somebody who called their child Eabhann, pronounced Evan).

We were eventually directed to a sister at our local church who is an expert in Irish Geneology, she told us that there was no concrete pronounciation of Aoibhe and was down to interpretation but the most common one was as Eva.

After that my niece was telling her Irish teacher about the baby and how it was spelt, she stated categorically that were were wrong and Aoibhe was pronounce Eva and no other way.

We eventually decided to just go with Ava, we thought if our niece was being corrected by a teacher imagine the hassle our daughter would have growing up having to constantly correct people and be told that she pronounced her name wrong.
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This is a bit late obviously for you Colleen but we spell our daughter's name Aoibhe and pronounce in Ava. Anyone who would correct you on how your own daughter's name is pronounced or who would correct your daughter on her own name would have to be a real know-it-all with no social skills!
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Sweet Jesus, the things some people burden their own kids with! As if growing up isn't tough enough already.
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