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Xbox modding questions
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22-04-2004 1:34pm#1
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Originally posted by Kid Icarus
I'd like to mod my Xbox to do the following (at least):
- Play audio and video files
- emulation
- play backed up games from the HD
I'd also like it to run Linux, but I could live without it.
I'd prefer to get an non-soldering mod-chip that I can switch on/off. So here are the actual questions....
How difficult is it to mod the Xbox?
Would I be better to get a cheap 2nd hand Xbox and work from that?
How difficult is it to put a larger hard drive in?
Any other comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!
its easy as pie.
get an executor 2.3blite+ (i think, its a while since i go mine)
theyre about 40 quid
buy a larger hard drive. i have a 126gb, but now tehre is support for over the 130gb limit, so go as high as your cash will spend.
get a copy of what ever bios you want. cant remember what i used. 4376 sound familiar?
get a copy of slayers mod dashboard. cnt rememebr exact name off hand, but do a search. you should be able to find an irc room and download from there.
once you install the mod chip (takles about 15 minutes, no wires, external on\off switch) upgrade the bios by booting with cd-rw with bios on it.
replace the hard drive
once that is done, reboot with slayers disk in, and it will give you the options you need, like install a new dashboard on a disk larger than 130gb with a mod chip that has on/ff capability.
this will install orginal xbox settings so you can play live and use orginal disks, and then when you have your chip on, it will boot into the new dash and allow you to install or ftp or do whatever you like.
basically, i go to blockbuster, install the game on to hard drive (takes about 15 minutes, and slayers dash has built in copy apps) and bring game back and finish game in your own time. if you like the game, you will then buy it no doubt, as you are an honest person, arent you?
but of course, it should really only be used to back up games you have already purchased.
thats pretty much it. its really really simple. the last one i did took me about 30 minutes from start to finish.
with regards the linux bit, dont be so fúcking gay! its a games consol, you can network it, you can use it as a file server if you want. christ, use it as a bloody mp3 server is you want, but come on, linux?
i suppose some people have just go tto take it one step too far
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Originally posted by Kid Icarus
Things are starting to make sense to me a little more now. So what you have done is set up your mod chip to look for a dashboard that is not "default.xbe". When the chip is on, it'll load up your other dash. When it's off, it'll load up the default one. Is that right? How can you do that?
(And thanks for all the help!)
EDIT: Yeah it sank in. So I'll need to get a chip that'll allow multiple BIOS's so I could possibly load whichever dash I feel like (as you do with yours). Time for more research on xbox-scene! It'll probably be an Xecutor 2.3 Pro, simply so I can flash the BIOS from my laptop. Once I get that going, I'll start to worry about hard drives/EvoX.
Don't really need the pro. When u get the chip first it's loaded with the cromwell bios. This is a bios that's only suitable for booting linux. If you create a cd with the bios u want installed on it named BIOS.bin and boot the xbox with it in, the cromwell bios will automatically flash this bios to the chip. After that u can simply use EvoX to flash whatever combo of bioses u want. btw the lite version supports 2 banks, the pro supports 4. Also, u can load whatever dashboard u want from EvoX once u boot into it.
To mess around with the boot sequence and other features of the Executer bios use "XBtool". But u don't have to do this. The default sequence already picks up
- 1. avalaunch.xbe
- 2. evoxdash.xbe
- 3. mxmdash.xbe
- 4. nexgen.xbe
- 5. xboxdash.xbe
in that order.
If u got any more questions, just shoot. I spent ages researching this on xbox-scene , i may aswell pass the info along cept i don't know anything about running linux on the xbox. didn't try that one. 0 -
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Originally posted by elmer
solder installs are always better but pogo pins will probably do the trick if you're not moving it around much
Nige
not being argumentative here, but why do you say that?
personally, i much prefer the idea of not taking hot metal to the mainboard of my xbox! pogo pins are just place, screw down, wiggle until connected.
besides, i wouldnt want to solder pints to the wrong connections, know what i mean
pogo pins, and slayers.
get your xbox up and running in half an hour.0 -
Originally posted by WhiteWashMan
not being argumentative here, but why do you say that?
personally, i much prefer the idea of not taking hot metal to the mainboard of my xbox! pogo pins are just place, screw down, wiggle until connected.
besides, i wouldnt want to solder pints to the wrong connections, know what i mean
pogo pins, and slayers.
get your xbox up and running in half an hour.
soldering is much more secure than pogo pins - a nice pin header negates soldering the wrong points and allows for easy removal(of the chip).
It's the wiggle bit you mention about pogos i don't like. it can be hit and miss and if you are transporting the xbox a good bit then it's much more likely for the pogo pins to become dislodged than a soldered pin header
but like i said they'll probably do the trick for most people. especially if you're afraid of killing the board. but if you buy a seperate pogopin adapter it'll cost you an extra 25 to 30 quid - you might aswell just get someone to do an install for you at that cost.
a solder install will take about the same amount of time - or you could just do a tsop flash instead of bothering with chips at all and be even faster0 -
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Originally posted by elmer
soldering is much more secure than pogo pins - a nice pin header negates soldering the wrong points and allows for easy removal(of the chip).
It's the wiggle bit you mention about pogos i don't like. it can be hit and miss and if you are transporting the xbox a good bit then it's much more likely for the pogo pins to become dislodged than a soldered pin header
but like i said they'll probably do the trick for most people. especially if you're afraid of killing the board. but if you buy a seperate pogopin adapter it'll cost you an extra 25 to 30 quid - you might aswell just get someone to do an install for you at that cost.
a solder install will take about the same amount of time - or you could just do a tsop flash instead of bothering with chips at all and be even faster
well, when i mention wiggling, im not taking about shakin the shít out of it
more a case of half a millimeter.
with regards the pogo board, well, some of them dont need one.
the reason i mentioned the whole debate on pogo pins and solder is simple.
its advice for first time modders.
its not an advanced course, you gotta break it to fix it an dall that.
i mean, you wouldnt give a learner driver an F1 car would you?
well, i dont see the point in making things difficult for the first time modder.
the reason i mention slayers is because i spent about 3 weeks researching modding, and when it came down to it, until i did it, i had no clue what it all meant.
i just installed the chip, flashed it, and ran the slayers cd. and everything worked.
if you are going to start soldering pins, flashing the bios with weird software, unlocking drives, adding your own flavour of evox dashboards and then trying to make it all work and then start trying to ftp about the place, it may just be alittle bit too much for some reason.
i think the emphasis should be on the simplicity of the set up.
unless you are just going to buy the kit and give it to someone to install 0 -
i agree with you - but anyone who has soldered before and is in any way good can easily solder in a chip and guessing about the people who frequent these boards i'd say there'd be quite a few who can solder but have never tried modding.
my first chip was a matrix back on an original(v1.0) xbox and the thing was a pain. Once i got soldering it was joy though.
I know that the alignment issues have been reduced when installing them. like I said pogo pins will do the trick for most people but soldering is more reliable and personally i find it easier but that's purely because i've done it loads of times and i hate having to allign pogo pins when i come accross them.
I dislike also having to pay extra for either an adaptor or a chip with them on them.
i see a big difference to soldering a chip than to reflashing etc0 -
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WhiteWashMan
it provides better contact - it's really as simple as that. there's no performance difference apart from reliability in terms of it being a lot less likely to become dislodged.
for the x2.3lite family - the plus has pogo pins the normal lite doesn't. cost difference is about 14 - 18 stg as far as i can see.
I hit the flip side on my first xbox - the chip wouldn't align properly but the cd-r red fine. I've yet to find one that wouldn't read my padded(putting a 200m dummy file on the disc so the actual data is in the middle of it) cd-r after a few goes. sure a cd-rw is better anyway you can resuse it.
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one - we're both right
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yeah you're refering to raincoat - it uses the exploit to boot a linux kernel. raincoat is the best because it's the only way to erase and write winbond tsops. you can get other exploits that boot to evox or other dash of choice.
you're taking a risk in the first place tsoping - i find it more comforting to telnet in so you do the backup and the write and then be done the only problem that can really arise(apart from using the wrong size bios or losing power during write) is that the chip won't erase but that's fine - you just need to check your contacts.
i'm not aware of an automated version of any of the exploits but i've never gone looking for one
depending on how screwed up the tsop is then you could restore it with a normal modchip - but if you leave the chip in there it'll be fine booting off the chip. you can get drastic and get a chip(29 wire) that bypasses the tsop rather than the normal ones that just boot off the debug(lpc) area of the board. if you cut the right wires you can then reflash the original tsop but it's intricate soldering
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Originally posted by elmer
WhiteWashMan
it provides better contact - it's really as simple as that. there's no performance difference apart from reliability in terms of it being a lot less likely to become dislodged.
for the x2.3lite family - the plus has pogo pins the normal lite doesn't. cost difference is about 14 - 18 stg as far as i can see.
I hit the flip side on my first xbox - the chip wouldn't align properly but the cd-r red fine. I've yet to find one that wouldn't read my padded(putting a 200m dummy file on the disc so the actual data is in the middle of it) cd-r after a few goes. sure a cd-rw is better anyway you can resuse it.
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one - we're both right
no bother, it was really for my own research, not out of some reason to argue
luckily, ive got loads of cash, so paying the additional 15 quid for an easy install is not a problem, but like i said, i knew i wanted one to start with so didnt bother with pricing or researching solder chips.
as for the cd thing, i just went and bought some cd-rws and there were no problems. just me not reading properly when everyone said 'dont use cd-rs, they dont always work'. my bad
to be honest, since i installed slayers dash, i have had no reason to change anything, although, if there is a better ftp app, could someone let me know. the one on there is so badly coloured, i cant actually see anything. would like to start transfering movies to my xbox, via xbox, and not via pc. ok ok ok, i know, its anal, but there you go
as for linux on an xbox? no seriously, get a life 0 -
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Qbot - one thing i forgot - the later copies of agent under fire have been patched - should be no trouble using splinter cell or getting it seeing as everyone has a copy anyhow
Whitewashman - the ftp app i like is also a file manager - xtoolbox - if you put it into the apps folder on the e: then slayers should pic it up - i think slayers already uses dvd2xbox for copying files to the hd
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i already use that for copyinf disks to the hard drive and its all in built.
the trouble is the defalt ftp app that slayers uses, or picks up, or whatever it does. i dont like it. i cant use it.
i want to know if anyone can suggest any other
with regards teh cd-r issues, not really an issue anymore. i got cd-rws
and yes, i now know about these things, but a pain in the ass for a newbie it was!0 -
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