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Fight Nights: Bisbing v Le / Bendo v Dos Anjos

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭Moat_Cailin


    I like to see fighters get a chance,but, that seemed like a good stoppage to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭p to the e


    I think the problem may well be that McCarthy stopped it before there an absolute beatdown. The way Dos Anjos was positioned he was raining down shots and it looked like the fight was going to be over in a second or two anyway. I initially thought it was a quick stoppage but on reviewing it you can see that Dos Anjos was capable of landing several more bombs whether Henderson woke up or not.

    If you haven't watched any of the Prelims from the Bendo card then give them a go. Some decent scraps except for perhaps the Magny fight. Ben Saunders finishes with an omoplata which is rare enough and the Matt Hobar vs Aaron Philips fight has some decent technical striking and grappling in it.

    Jordan Mein looked like a danger for anyone at WW. I think he's not yet top ten material but give him another fight or two then a rematch with Woodley could be worth a watch. Pyle is probably too old at this stage to make another decent run so he may finally be resigned to the gate keeper role for the rest of his career.

    Speaking of Tyron Woodley, would love to see him fight Lombard next. Two absolute tanks.

    Was very impressed with Hollaway's crisp striking. He actually looked like he put on a bit of muscle mass. His opponent Clay Collard took the fight on a few days notice and had an exciting, fan friendly style so expect to see him again.

    Cung Le absolutely pounded the body of Bisping. Those kicks and punches to the mid section really affected Bisping but unfortunately emptied the gas tank of Le aswell. I really would love to see a Cung Le vs. Anderson Silva fight before both retire. Luke Rockhold would love to get his hands on Bisping but it seems as though Rockhold might get Machida and a possible title shot. A good matchup for Bisping now would be Tim Boetsch in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,386 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    p to the e wrote: »
    Tyron Woodley, would love to see him fight Lombard next. Two absolute tanks.

    Don't disagree but I dunno teammates fighting each other usually make for sh1t fights unless maybe u are Bigfoot and Mark Hunt :D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    p to the e wrote: »
    I
    Ben Saunders finishes with an omoplata which is rare enough.
    The first omoplata in UFC. Rare enough is putting it lightly.

    I didn't gave sound for that fight. What was Rogans reaction to it? I imagine he was going nuts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭p to the e


    Mellor wrote: »
    The first omoplata in UFC. Rare enough is putting it lightly.

    I didn't gave sound for that fight. What was Rogans reaction to it? I imagine he was going nuts.

    Think it was Brian Stann and Jon Anik on commentating duties. Eddie Bravo was in Saunders's corner and he set up the omoplata with the rubber guard so obviously he was beaming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    p to the e wrote: »
    Think it was Brian Stann and Jon Anik on commentating duties. Eddie Bravo was in Saunders's corner and he set up the omoplata with the rubber guard so obviously he was beaming.
    Went looking for the commentary there and realised it wasn't Rogan. Would of loved to have heard Joe lose his **** over the RG and the omo.

    Seen Eddie in the corner. He looked delighted alright. The rubber guard looked really slick, with the added leg locking in the far arm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


    In my view its so rare to get an omaplata because its much easier to get out of than to apply. Your man was useless trying to get out of it in fairness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Kazooie


    The Omaplata looked class. And bloody painfull as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    ASOT wrote: »
    How anyone can complain about the stoppage is beyond me.

    If people think this was a good stoppage then what do you make of the Pendred,King fight where Pendred was in much worse trouble than this.

    I am a bit conflicted on this stoppage,i can see the arguments for it being stopped,but he could have given it another couple of seconds to see how it all panned out,the punch might have put him down but he was partially defending himself,and we will never know would he really have finished him off there,i'm not so sure he would have finished the fight from here,Benson didn't look out or near out at the point big John stepped in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    amkin25 wrote: »
    If people think this was a good stoppage then what do you make of the Pendred,King fight where Pendred was in much worse trouble than this.

    I am a bit conflicted on this stoppage,i can see the arguments for it being stopped,but he could have given it another couple of seconds to see how it all panned out,the punch might have put him down but he was partially defending himself,and we will never know would he really have finished him off there,i'm not so sure he would have finished the fight from here,Benson didn't look out or near out at the point big John stepped in.

    I said it at that fight, on here & to king himself if that fight was anywhere else but Dublin it would have been stopped imo. Hendersons legs folded as he went limp and he has a blank look on his face, took two big shots while not protecting himself and it would have been more if it wasnt stopped. Iv seen way worse stoppages than this. Its a non issue imo and was stopped correctly.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭evo2000


    ASOT wrote: »
    I said it at that fight, on here & to king himself if that fight was anywhere else but Dublin it would have been stopped imo. Hendersons legs folded as he went limp and he has a blank look on his face, took two big shots while not protecting himself and it would have been more if it wasnt stopped. Iv seen way worse stoppages than this. Its a non issue imo and was stopped correctly.

    it should be irrelevant where the fight is.. we ve seen fighters get worse beating than this relatively soft stoppage especially for someone of bendos stature where you know he can eat a shot and recover if you watch that vid you can see at the end his turning to scramble from the punches,

    Not the worst stoppage in the world i have seen worse but it was certainly early!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭evo2000


    amkin25 wrote: »
    If people think this was a good stoppage then what do you make of the Pendred,King fight where Pendred was in much worse trouble than this.

    I am a bit conflicted on this stoppage,i can see the arguments for it being stopped,but he could have given it another couple of seconds to see how it all panned out,the punch might have put him down but he was partially defending himself,and we will never know would he really have finished him off there,i'm not so sure he would have finished the fight from here,Benson didn't look out or near out at the point big John stepped in.

    Yeah i 100% agree with yeah you can see right after the fight bendo is straight back up, should have let it go abit longer, i think henderson would have survived


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭Easy Rod


    evo2000 wrote: »
    Yeah i 100% agree with yeah you can see right after the fight bendo is straight back up, should have let it go abit longer, i think henderson would have survived

    Absolutely no chance.

    The gif cuts off, but just before Bendo gets up and starts jogging around he's absolutely out of it between Big John McCarthy's legs.

    100% correct stoppage imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭threeball


    Easy Rod wrote: »
    Absolutely no chance.

    The gif cuts off, but just before Bendo gets up and starts jogging around he's absolutely out of it between Big John McCarthy's legs.

    100% correct stoppage imo.

    Exactly he fell forward after that leaving his head wide open which dos Anjos would have pummelled had McCarthy not stepped in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    amkin25 wrote: »
    ,the punch might have put him down but he was partially defending himself,
    Partially?
    He has absolutely no defense what so ever at the punch onwards.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    Mellor wrote: »
    Partially?
    He has absolutely no defense what so ever at the punch onwards.

    Like i said i can see why people think it was a good stoppage because he did get rocked by the punch and his legs went,but slow motion replays are deceiving sometimes in my opinion.

    The look on Bensons face after going down,at the point when big John stepped in,that looked like somebody scambling,people i think mistake the scambling for being in trouble,had this being given another minute id safely bet Benson would have scrambled and got back to his feet pretty fast.

    I don't think he was in major trouble even though it was a big shot,its only a good stoppage if the fighter is gonna take unnecessary punishment,here i don't think that was the case,we seen him rocked before and recovering to win,am not his biggest fan either,but still think this stoppage was a bit early and Dos Anjos wouldn't have finished him off from this position.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,386 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    Admit it the only reason people thought it was stopped too early was Bendo was sparred more punishment and they would have enjoyed him getting loads more digs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭user2011


    Not a Bendo fan but thought John did well getting in to stop it. Even after complaining to the ref and having a jog on the spot when he was going over to Dos Anjos Bendo was still out it and the big I'm out of it smile but I don't know I am :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    califano wrote: »
    In my view its so rare to get an omaplata because its much easier to get out of than to apply. Your man was useless trying to get out of it in fairness.
    I wouldn't say being easy to escape is the reason tbh. Most of the time we see it, it's being used as a sweep or transition, and its not being defended there. But it can be hard to get the tap. I think that's the reason, it's more effective to go omo-backtake than to try too long for the sub.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭evo2000


    Easy Rod wrote: »
    Absolutely no chance.

    The gif cuts off, but just before Bendo gets up and starts jogging around he's absolutely out of it between Big John McCarthy's legs.

    100% correct stoppage imo.

    his between hsi legs because he was scrambling away from punches the gif makes it look worse than what it was the so called "punishment shots" were only glancing if you watch it, henderson has been hit with worse and survived i think


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    Could it have been let go a little longer probably yes.
    Have there been much worse early stoppages yes!
    When its that close the ref has little time to make the call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭califano


    Mellor wrote: »
    I wouldn't say being easy to escape is the reason tbh. Most of the time we see it, it's being used as a sweep or transition, and its not being defended there. But it can be hard to get the tap. I think that's the reason, it's more effective to go omo-backtake than to try too long for the sub.

    Yah i agree, good assessment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Initially i thought it was a bit early but on the replay he was going to be put out cold if it wasn't stopped, zero attempts at intelligently defending himself as he didn't know where he was.

    What a serious division, almost anybody in the top 5-8 can beat anyone else on their day. Hands down the best division in the MMA world.


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