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Satan invented Evolution

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  • #102
    Nick_oliveri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Nick_oliveri


    I bet he believes that Religion and Creationalism should be shoved down our childrens throats from birth and in Schools. You think the human mind has evolved, or even learned from past mistakes. Here we have proof to the contrary. It will never end.

    "Satan" would be proud.


  • #103
    Asiaprod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Asiaprod


    Hello_everybody wrote: »

    At least they're trying. Why aren't Catholics trying to figure out where God came from? Because ye just know that it's futile. So ye pick the easy answer - "he was always there". At least scientists can admit that they don't know what happened before the big bang.
    I see you are a new poster, so a word of caution, why should Catholics try to figure out where God came from? How about all the other denominations?
    I could easily interpret this statement as breaking the Charter.


  • #104
    PDN
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭PDN


    Call_me_al wrote: »
    not to just dismiss the bible but it is terribly mis-tranalsted in parts and stuff as easy as the number of the devil which is actually 616 and not 666.

    The problem with mocking other people for being ignorant is that you sometimes end up showing your own woeful ignorance.

    The number of the Beast (who is not the Devil in Scripture) is correctly translated as 666.

    There is a fragment of one ancient copy of the Book of Revelation that has the number as 616 instead of 666, but the hundreds of other ancient manuscripts all have 666.


  • #105
    Zombrex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    This thread is awesome

    estebancambias you are my hero


  • #106
    Ciaran500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    PDN wrote: »
    There is a fragment of the earliest known copy of the Book of Revelation that has the number as 616 instead of 666, but the hundreds of other ancient manuscripts all have 666.
    Corrected ;)


  • #107
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,603 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    OP, dude, you're getting hammered here. You say that you have looked at the subject carefully and have come to the conclusion that evolution is a hoax. I really have to question where exactly you looked. our talking points could all have been lifted out of the evangalist handbook from any of the Fundamentalist young earther churches in the U.S.

    And with that in mind, I think you should inform yourself better about the standard of discourse on this matter. Have a look at this Dawkins clip. If is a Q and A segment taken from a speech at Lynchberg college in the U.S. He answers many questions from fundamentalists of a similar kind to the statements you have been making.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6260016729541034141&q=dawkins+lynchburg&total=26&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1


  • #108
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    estebancambias wrote: »
    Why should I sit through those classes, they are littered with propaganda. Every book is full of propaganda.
    And that's the main problem with all your arguments. Allot of people would have been brought up on Religion in this country, side by side with science in school. In science I did experiments to prove the theories it all made sense. In religion class there where no answers I was just told to believe, I never trust anything that won't explain itself. Many religious folk may think God doesn't have to explain himself but he does to me, even if there is a God out there who does he think he is? Sure he may have done great things but if he's anything like described in the bible he's an self absorbed ass that I'd want nothing to do with.

    Sticking your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes and screaming out a song doesn't make you right.


  • #109
    MrJoeSoap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Esteban, what religion do you think you would be if you were born to a Hindu couple in India? Or to Buddhist parents in northern Thailand?


  • #110
    Hello_everybody
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭Hello_everybody


    Asiaprod wrote: »
    why should Catholics try to figure out where God came from? How about all the other denominations?
    I could easily interpret this statement as breaking the Charter.

    Well, this is a Christian/Catholic forum, I'm not here to discuss other denominations! If we are allowed discuss all the other denominations in this forum, maybe you should change it's name to "General Religious Disussion" or something?


  • #111
    Rev Hellfire
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭Rev Hellfire


    Hello_everybody wrote: »
    Well, this is a Christian/Catholic forum, I'm not here to discuss other denominations! If we are allowed discuss all the other denominations in this forum, maybe you should change it's name to "General Religious Disussion" or something?

    It was your good self who singled out Catholics with the following statement:
    Hello_everybody wrote:
    Why aren't Catholics trying to figure out where God came from?

    Asia was just asking you why other Christian denominations should be excluded from your vent.


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  • #112
    Stercus Accidit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    estebancambias wrote: »
    The Bible, the best book to have ever existed, has been undermined to the point were we now are meant to believe it is all one big metaphor. This is wrong, the Bible is the book of God, it is infallible. Can we answer how God created the Heavens and the Earth in seven days? Certainly not, this is because it is incomprehensible for a human to be able to fatham such a wonder.

    It is funny in a disturbing sort of way that Evolution has become so acceptable, to the point I was nearly indoctrinated by the Atheists that Evolution was indeed happening. We all know evolution is nothing but pure lies. Let us take a closer look shall we?

    Chemical Evolution- Is this even worth even bringing up? In real science, you know the one that passes all three tests to the set criteria, it is proven hydrogen can not be turned into an other element.

    Cosmic Evolution- Ah the 'big bang.' The something from nothing. We as Christians are called stupid because we believe that something great formed the planet in which we live today, the Evolutionists believe that we came from a.......DOT. Well, I guess it makes perfect sense that a dot would be able to create the amazing planet we live today..surely? .Oh wait no actually.
    I believe God is responsible, you believe in a dot. They are both Religion, the only difference is that it makes sense that an intelligent creator would create a world with intelligence,as opposed to a dot that could create anything.

    Its not hard to grasp boyos, just think about it, why would a dot create something so amazing as our planet? Why not just a few specs of dust?

    Explain the dot can you?;) Have a good time with your magical fairytale. I think I might just stick with God.

    Macroevolution This is the idea that one animal can magically change into another. Come on people even Pokemon makes more sense than this, at least if follows a coherent pattern. When was the last time a dog gave birth to a goat?
    This idiocy of an idea can be debunked quite simply, Macroevolution is not Science, it is impossible. It can not be observed, it cannot be tested and it is not repeatable. Fail again.

    Now we have gone through the Religous aspects of Evolution, this is you have to believe in them.

    However this is the funny part.This aspect of Evolution is possible Micro-Evolution. The funny thing is that this is actually mentioned in the Bible. Makes sense? It should God created the Bible.
    Micro-Evolution - A human comes from a human. A dog comes from a dog. A goat comes from a goat. A cat comes from a Cat. Yes there will be differences, but they are the same thing. A human is a human. An ape is an ape. I really can't see where the confusion lies.

    The only reason Atheists believe in Evolution is because they don't want to believe in God. This is because Atheists cannot accept the fact that there is something more powerful than themselves. Their view is that Evolution is taking place, don't lie, what is the evidence, the actual evidence.

    Anyway is anyone really concerned with what Atheists have to say? The last time I checked, I didnt really care about the opinion of a monkey.

    Peace and God bless.



    You're the idiot that also claimed that all poor people were scumbags and have been repeatedly banned?

    You clearly have no grasp of science, and I really think you have something wrong with you that should be treated.

    I mean you're 19 or so and intending to go to college or at college and you have these sort of views.

    I encourage anyone that is interested to look up the "lets talk about scumbags" thread in after hours, to see the level of intelligence of this guy.

    And dont go sending me little pm's again.

    Edit: Please ban me from this forum if this is out of line, seriously, I wont take it personally.


  • #113
    Hello_everybody
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭Hello_everybody


    Rev Hellfire wrote: »

    Asia was just asking you why other Christian denominations should be excluded from your vent.

    Ok, my arguments were about Christianity and all it's denominations!! Ok now?
    I encourage anyone that is interested to look up the "lets talk about scumbags" thread in after hours, to see the level of intelligence of this guy.

    Haha yeah, I remember reading that thread a few months back. Unbelievable.


  • #114
    estebancambias
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    Thanks for that link to Dawkins.

    I see no need to bring up something I said months ago. Also, it was taken out of context.

    Well done for contributing nothing to this thread.


  • #115
    Asiaprod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Asiaprod


    Motosam wrote: »
    Please ban me from this forum if this is out of line, seriously, I wont take it personally.
    Would never dream of it, thanks.
    Rev Hellfire wrote: »
    It was your good self who singled out Catholics with the following statement:
    Asia was just asking you why other Christian denominations should be excluded from your vent.
    Cheers Rev.
    Wicknight wrote: »
    This thread is awesome
    estebancambias you are my hero
    Now I am worried:eek: I am putting a page limit on this thread, I need sleep.


  • #116
    Griffin87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Griffin87


    What about dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals that live millions of years ago ?


  • #117
    GhostInTheRuins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭GhostInTheRuins


    5* thread, utterly amazing

    All you have to do is look at your own body as proof of evolution. - http://lilbuddah.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/20-useless-body-parts/


  • #118
    Asiaprod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Asiaprod


    Quick-smart wrote: »
    What about dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals that live millions of years ago ?
    It's going to be a long night, another one.

    What are you talking about! What about dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals that live millions of years ago?


  • #119
    bonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    estebancambias wrote: »
    People the proof is in the name

    Evillusion

    Not to mention....

    evillusion.


  • #120
    lostexpectation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    I think estebancambis is taking the piss out of christians here


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  • #121
    Fallen Seraph
    Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭Fallen Seraph


    lostexpectation wrote: »
    I think estebancambis is talking the piss out of christians here

    My intuition was the same, but then again, I reckoned that JC was just trolling for the first few hundred pages of that second incarnation of the creationism/prophesy thread and I think I've been proven wrong there...


  • #122
    MrJoeSoap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Esteban has also claimed to be "anti-fag" and "anti-liberal" on his Bebo, I think that pretty much sums the level of intelligence (and I use that term loosely) that we are dealing with here. Either its the most effort ever put into trolling or we have ourselves a very hate-filled young man here.

    He also...

    1/ ...believes the crusades had nothing to do with religion.
    2/ ...has a problem with "the brain dead retards(in it's true sense of the word) being praised for just competing" in the Special Olympics. How very Christian of you.
    3/ ...thinks "the word scumbag is and should be associated with living in social housing"
    4/ ...views the Atheism forum as being full of "proud assholes".

    Why hasn't this thread been locked? There is no meaningful discussion going on. I always thought the real essence of Christianity was too love one another and not to preach hatred, guess young Esteban doesn't agree.


  • #123
    estebancambias
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    To the person who said I was ''getting hammered'', oh come on please, if it was a one on one debate it would be much more even, when virtually everyone who posts is against you then its hard not to get lost in the mix.

    My question is do any of my fellow Christians actually care what the Bible says? You seem to just compromise, and take it all as what I said in the original post, as just one big metaphor.


  • #124
    estebancambias
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    Esteban has also claimed to be "anti-fag" and "anti-liberal" on his Bebo, I think that pretty much sums the level of intelligence (and I use that term loosely) that we are dealing with here. Either its the most effort ever put into trolling or we have ourselves a very hate-filled young man here.

    He also...

    1/ ...believes the crusades had nothing to do with religion.
    2/ ...has a problem with "the brain dead retards(in it's true sense of the word) being praised for just competing" in the Special Olympics. How very Christian of you.
    3/ ...thinks "the word scumbag is and should be associated with living in social housing"
    4/ ...views the Atheism forum as being full of "proud assholes".

    Why hasn't this thread been locked? There is no meaningful discussion going on. I always thought the real essence of Christianity was too love one another and not to preach hatred, guess young Esteban doesn't agree.


    The crusades had nothing to do with God. Human can commit sin, God cannot. The Crusades and Inquisitions were as a result of evil men.

    'Proud assholes''? Eh no, they are misled and ignorant.


  • #125
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    MrJoeSoap wrote:
    Why hasn't this thread been locked? There is no meaningful discussion going on.
    I'll agree that there's not much meaningful discussion going on, but the thread is interesting because it clearly shows one of the things that us atheists bang on about endlessly -- how religion can be used to legitimize hatred, at least in the undemanding courtroom of one's own conscience anyway. I don't remember seeing many (any?) christians pointing out that estebancambias is doing this.
    MrJoeSoap wrote:
    I always thought the real essence of Christianity was too love one another and not to preach hatred, guess young Esteban doesn't agree.
    Well, as above, by selecting the bits that suit, most religions are pretty good at appealing to just about anybody's pre-conceived ideas. Esteban comes across as an angry guy and he's picked the supremacist (for want of a better word) bits of christianity that suit this point of view. The essence that he's picked it no more or no less "real" than anybody else's. It's just down to his own personal choice.


  • #126
    estebancambias
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    I have no hatred. I am just a guy who has not fed into the idea of evolution. Sorry I'm not just a mindless sheep, who has accepted everything in a science book.

    I do not like liberals in that generally they will hate Religion and be pro abortion. I do not like homosexuals who claim it is natural to be gay.


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  • #127
    estebancambias
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    I disagree with may Christians in that I believe God allows everyone into Heaven, as long as when they enter they accept God.


  • #128
    Ciaran500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    estebancambias wrote: »
    I do not like homosexuals who claim it is natural to be gay.

    It happens in the animal kingdom, is that not natural?


  • #129
    estebancambias
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    Animals eat their own crap and think nothing of it, I don't think we should be measuring our standards and minds with that of an animal.


  • #130
    Scofflaw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    estebancambias wrote: »
    Animals eat their own crap and think nothing of it, I don't think we should be measuring our standards and minds with that of an animal.

    Animals also eat, sleep, defecate, mate, give birth, walk, breathe, etc etc. Are you currently avoiding all those activities?

    After all, most of us would say thought and coherent speech mark us off from the rest of the animals...

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


  • #131
    Ciaran500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    estebancambias wrote: »
    Animals eat their own crap and think nothing of it, I don't think we should be measuring our standards and minds with that of an animal.
    I could find you a video of someone eating there own crap if you really want to...


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  • #132
    estebancambias
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    2girlsandonecup?


  • #133
    stakey
    Registered Users Posts: 721 ✭✭✭stakey


    *ROFL*

    Seriously i want you to defend the following:
    "the brain dead retards(in it's true sense of the word) being praised for just competing"

    You defended everything else that MrJoeSoap pointed out, so come on, don't leave this one out...


  • #134
    estebancambias
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    I was stupid. I was wrong. I am sorry.


  • #135
    BrianCalgary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭BrianCalgary


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    Esteban has also claimed to be "anti-fag" and "anti-liberal" on his Bebo, I think that pretty much sums the level of intelligence (and I use that term loosely) that we are dealing with here. Either its the most effort ever put into trolling or we have ourselves a very hate-filled young man here.

    He also...

    1/ ...believes the crusades had nothing to do with religion.
    2/ ...has a problem with "the brain dead retards(in it's true sense of the word) being praised for just competing" in the Special Olympics. How very Christian of you.
    3/ ...thinks "the word scumbag is and should be associated with living in social housing"
    4/ ...views the Atheism forum as being full of "proud assholes".

    Why hasn't this thread been locked? There is no meaningful discussion going on. I always thought the real essence of Christianity was too love one another and not to preach hatred, guess young Esteban doesn't agree.

    Ahh joe, I'm sleeping while all this is going on. I am going to lock it, pending further review.

    What's with teh Pittsburgh Penguins logo?


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