I wish I could go back to the 90s.

Gamer Bhoy 89 · 21-11-2012 10:43pm #1

I forgot to add this to the title: RANT

Just to experience the gaming community from back then. I absolutely despise the community in this day and age. All I've seen these days now are people gettin' slagged for playing a certain game over another. To some degree it's okay because it's console wars, comes with the experience. But I've actually seen people refuse, literally not even LOOK at a certain game in contrast to it's alleged rival.

eg: Someone who is all about Call of Duty but will never, ever lay a finger on Halo or Battlefield.
Then there's that one who prefers Battlefield over Call of Duty due to it being "more realistic".

I'm sorry, but is realism what solely drives someone to playing a game? In my childhood and early teens it was just game-play and how COOL a game played that drove people from my generation into the game. The poison today that is now next-gen, HD, sometimes even 3D, sound effects has really messed up the minds of gamers today.

Another great example is that I get slagged rotten for being a massive fan of the Dynasty Warriors series, because they're "too repetitive, the graphics are shít, the voice-acting is horrible"......... Last time I checked, I like Dynasty Warriors because I love the style of game-play....I know the graphics aren't great, I know the voice-acting is horrible, in-fact, I laugh at some of the dialogue! And I couldn't care any less about them being repetitive. People tell me "why are you playing Dynasty Warriors, they're so repetitive" ... Nooooo I was playing it all those years I was never aware. :rolleyes:

Game-play seems to be a secondary preference to the people I've seen in the Xbox forums and other game-forums elsewhere.

Why is that though? Is it because it's possibly the same people from my generation (i'm 23) that has gone past all of that "cool gameplay" experience that it's all boiled down to just graphics and how a game "feels" ?

People from the generation of the Megadrive/SNES and to some extent, the PS1, hardly mentioned how realistic a game was surely? I certainly don't recall hearing anyone saying Sonic the Hedgehog had better graphics than Super Mario......... I don't remember having arguments with anyone on how realistic MGS was in comparison to Syphon Filter (I don't know, name a shooter to compare MGS1 to).

I miss chatting about how cool a game was to play. Now it's all arguing if someone doesn't like what someone else thinks of a game.

The community of gamers these days makes me sad as a gamer myself to see the sheer aggressive comments aimed towards rival games/consoles/fans.

I saw someone saying Halo was only for "geeky little f*ggots"... and he also stated that Call of Duty and Battlefield were for "real gamers" to let the "geeks have their Halo". Like..... jesus christ it's only a video game.

Maybe it's the fact I'm so open-minded when it comes to games. I'll literally play anything, I always have. I can play FIFA and go on Battlefield after that, then switch over to Call of Duty and fit a bit of Halo into it after I play that. Then when I'm done on Halo sure why not play a bit of Forza after. Done with the Xbox so I'll turn on the PC and play a bit of World of Warcraft. Then I'll shtick on some Command and Conquer when I'm done on that. AH SURE, I'll play Pro Evo 2013 for a bit get some progress done on Master League.

I went a bit into too much detail but that is almost exactly what I'm like. I play anything and everything. I love games in general it's my favourite passtime it always has been. Away ta f*ck with the gamers of today and revive the 4th Gen consoles. They were more friendly

MAASSIVE apologies for the close-to-pointless rant but I had a lot to say. So I said it.

All disputes and contradictions to what I said are welcome. I tend to talk nonsense a lot.

juan.kerr · 21-11-2012 10:43pm

Bring back Monkey Island and SWOS.

21-11-2012 10:44pm

I agree but I just want controllers with fewer buttons.

Reekwind · 21-11-2012 10:48pm

Clearly the OP is a Quake 3 n00b. UT 4eva

super_furry · 21-11-2012 11:00pm

I've been playing games for over two decades now and these arguments and attitudes have always existed. I remember the Commodore 64 v Spectrum rows, the Megadrive v SNES battles, Amiga v Atari ST skirmishes, Playstation v Saturn wars and so on.

Gamers, especially young gamers, have always argued that their system/game of choice was the best and everything else was ****e, it's just more visible now on forums and twitter.

K.O.Kiki · 21-11-2012 11:36pm

Can we at least agree that anyone who prefers Mortal Kombat over Street Fighter II is a grade-A numpty?!

Gamer Bhoy 89 · 21-11-2012 11:37pm

super_furry wrote: »

I've been playing games for over two decades now and these arguments and attitudes have always existed. I remember the Commodore 64 v Spectrum rows, the Megadrive v SNES battles, Amiga v Atari ST skirmishes, Playstation v Saturn wars and so on.

Gamers, especially young gamers, have always argued that their system/game of choice was the best and everything else was ****e, it's just more visible now on forums and twitter.

I'm prepared to accept that I suppose. Maybe it's the crowd of people I was hanging around with or knew. I was going from what I saw from my own perspective and how it's evolved for me. I never took into account that it was a different standpoint from other people. I just assumed it would've been the same for everyone else because it was the same for everyone I knew but you've got a good point.

It's incredible though, the amount of holy-war that goes on over a game or system, some that goes beyond just argument-sake and defending the system/game franchise you love. (Gamer 1, wishing death upon a relative of Gamer 2, because Gamer 2 likes Call of Duty and Gamer 1 hates it) I d'know.

Maybe, like I said in my original post, it's probably the fact I'm just so laid back on what games I enjoy playing. If anything I'd probably argue that video gaming rules and board-rpg-gaming sucks arse, it's the only argument I'd have in that particular category of arguments

aN.Droid · 21-11-2012 11:40pm

Sega does what nintendont.

AtomicHorror · 22-11-2012 1:04am

Limericks wrote: »

Sega does what nintendont.

Go out of business?

aN.Droid · 22-11-2012 1:12am

AtomicHorror wrote: »

Go out of business?

First time hearing Sega has gone out of business. But I guess nintendo is what genesisn't.

AtomicHorror · 22-11-2012 1:20am

Limericks wrote: »

First time hearing Sega has gone out of business.

As a console manufacturer, yeah, I think we can say they went out of business. Shame too. Loved the Megadrive. Bought one a few years back out of pure nostalgia.

Magill · 22-11-2012 1:33am

super_furry wrote: »

I've been playing games for over two decades now and these arguments and attitudes have always existed. I remember the Commodore 64 v Spectrum rows, the Megadrive v SNES battles, Amiga v Atari ST skirmishes, Playstation v Saturn wars and so on.

Gamers, especially young gamers, have always argued that their system/game of choice was the best and everything else was ****e, it's just more visible now on forums and twitter.

Pretty much covers it.. my cousin used to argue how his megadrive was better than my snes.... he was obviously just jelly of SMW and Zelda.

jaykhunter · 22-11-2012 1:38am

Sacrilege! Ass-kicking Mortal Kombat over Super Mega Ultra Street Fighter Turbo Ex + Alpha any day!

OP you'd do much better to just either couch co-op or just game with friends/people you've met online/boardsies and stick with them. That way you don't have to deal with the foul-mouthed brats again

Jelly 292 · 22-11-2012 1:38am

Man, I started my PC gaming career in 1996 , you are right, it was a golden age.

But show those games to people today for the lolz...

Back then- 0.00000001 per cent of people really played

Now every fekker does.

I wish they'd all bugger orf

edit, I actually started on a 48k , but thats another thread. Jet Set Willy FTW

Retr0gamer · 22-11-2012 1:50am

If you don't like realistic games or football games then don't play them. There's plenty on the handhelds, iOS, Android and PC indie scene to fulfill your needs. However if you are one of those people that thinks something like Valkyria Chronicles or Mario Galaxy is too 'kiddie' then you only have yourself to blame and I've no sympathy for you.

Gaming isn't as good as it was in the ninties but it's also not worse than the 90's. The interesting stuff is just isn't on the big home console platforms or is less exposed than the big AAA games.

Retr0gamer · 22-11-2012 1:52am

jaykhunter wrote: »

Sacrilege! Ass-kicking Mortal Kombat over Super Mega Ultra Street Fighter Turbo Ex + Alpha any day!

Oh you delusional Mortal Kombat fans. You crack me up every time. Go back to playing your barely playable janky beat'em ups, I'll be busy enjoying King of Fighters and enjoying it because it's fun not because I'm impressed by gore (disclaimer: Mortal Kombat 9 is the exception, it was far better than it had any right to be coming from such an awful series).

jaykhunter · 22-11-2012 3:04am

Sentences that contain have "Go back to..." is pretty dismissive, I don't like it. Might we MK fans prefer it because it's simply a lot of fun?

It's Oasis vs Blur all over again....Anyway, MK9 was absolutely sublime, I loved how they re-told the first 3 games, a perfect mix of nostalgia and making the whole series feel fresh and invigorated again. Street Fighter could definitely learn something from that; a nice 8-9 hour campaign going through SF history/storylines could be great.

Retr0gamer · 22-11-2012 3:12am

jaykhunter wrote: »

Sentences that contain have "Go back to..." is pretty dismissive, I don't like it. Might we MK fans prefer it because it's simply a lot of fun? It's Oasis vs Blur all over again....

Dismissive? Yeah that was what I was going for. As for Oasis vs. Blur, it's more like the Pixies vs. Boyzone to be honest. The MK games weren't good games, you thought they were fun because your impressionable teenage mind was impressed by the blood. Also I'm not being dismissive here, I was one of them as well. Going back to playing them now and they are pretty naff, no depth to them what so ever, not Rise of the Robots bad (although the first game comes close), there just wasn't an awful lot to them.

Street Fighter might benefit from a better single player experience, however playing fighting games so you can out cheese cheesey AI is missing the point. MK9 wasn't great because it had a good single player mode, that was a bonus. It was the first MK game to have a decent combat system.

Syferus · 22-11-2012 3:19am

*kombat system

deathrider · 22-11-2012 3:20am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Dismissive? Yeah that was what I was going for. As for Oasis vs. Blur, it's more like the Pixies vs. Boyzone to be honest. The MK games weren't good games, you thought they were fun because your impressionable teenage mind was impressed by the blood. Also I'm not being dismissive here, I was one of them as well. Going back to playing them now and they are pretty naff, no depth to them what so ever, not Rise of the Robots bad (although the first game comes close), there just wasn't an awful lot to them.

Street Fighter might benefit from a better single player experience, however playing fighting games so you can out cheese cheesey AI is missing the point. MK9 wasn't great because it had a good single player mode, that was a bonus. It was the first MK game to have a decent combat system.

The thing about Mk that people who don't like MK don't seem to get is that it's not all about buckets of blood. Mk fans like MK because they are fun games. No, they're not as in-depth as Street Fighter, but that doesn't mean they are not fun. I'm a huge fan of the series (and also a huge SF fan), and have been since back in the day. Going back to play the older ones now, I can safely say the original MK ain't great (I can say the same for the original SF), but MK2 and MK3 are still great fun. They've still got the same charm now as they had then.

Retr0gamer · 22-11-2012 3:30am

Well there's no accounting for taste. For me the MK games at best were amusing distractions rather than something I'd actually put a significant amount of time into. They just aren't rewarding unlike better fighters.

deathrider · 22-11-2012 3:38am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Well there's no accounting for taste. For me the MK games at best were amusing distractions rather than something I'd actually put a significant amount of time into. They just aren't rewarding unlike better fighters.

Always enjoyed them myself. Mk is, without a shadow of a doubt, my favourite gaming series. I won't deny that it lost it's way on more than one occasion though. It doesn't live up to Street Fighter in the gameplay department, but it's definitely more interesting. Great characters, storylines, and a phenomenal little universe. Also a ton of nice little secrets scattered thoughout the series.

Syferus · 22-11-2012 3:47am

S...s...storyline...?

"Go on, beat the ****e out of that lad/demon/fella in a paddy hat!"

deathrider · 22-11-2012 3:55am

Syferus wrote: »

S...s...storyline...?

"Go on, beat the ****e out of that lad/demon/fella in a paddy hat!"

Yes, storyline. Back stories for the characters, where the ending left them, rivalries them, reasons for holding the tournament, yadda, yadda, yadda- Storyline.

DrumSteve · 22-11-2012 4:05am

it was always like this; just nowadays any idiot can get to play online (you dont need a pc).

Really must stick on my Sega Saturn. Shining Force 3 is calling!

RoyalMarine · 22-11-2012 11:50am

personally I prefer street fighter ex plus alpha 2 hovis wholemeal edition.

deathrider · 22-11-2012 3:01pm

Also, we're banging on about SF Vs MK in a thread about how people are overy defensive abou their favourite games... Oh, the ironing! :pac:

[DF]Lenny · 22-11-2012 3:49pm

Ahh the old days were the best , what a load of cack , ive been playing games also for 25 years and they are much better now than the early stuff.
i can remember spending 4 hours typing in a game from a magazine for the zx81 that then crashed on launch and you had to wait for next weeks edition for the "sorry for typo on line 526 ".
Do i miss that , or playing 1 game for 2 months solid ..
No ..really games have evolved over the last 1/4 century , and for the most part are much better.

Compare RTE in the 80's to 100+ channel sky now , different world

super_furry · 22-11-2012 3:56pm

Yep there has never been a better time to be into videogames than right now. Even if you don't like what's coming out at the moment, there's still 30 years of great games there for you to play.

Potential-Monke · 23-11-2012 4:31am

Syferus wrote: »

S...s...storyline...?

"Go on, beat the ****e out of that lad/demon/fella in a paddy hat!"

Yes, story, something which is missing from every SF game if memory serves me correctly. If they did have stories, then they must not have been good at all, because i can't remember anything other than M Bison being the bad guy, Vega from Spain and Ryu gave Sagat a scar.

MK has a rich history, from the creation of Noob, the rivalry between Scorpion and Sub-Zero, Mileena and Kitana, Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Shinnock, Quan Chi, the history between Lui Kang and Kung Lao, the Elder Gods, the different plains. I don't think the great SF had any spin-off single player games (a la Mythologies and Shaolin Monks).

Boon and Tobias always had stories, reasons for fighting, even if they weren't great. Plus, the first MK film was way better than any live-action SF. :P

On topic, the rivalry was always there, but as others have pointed out the internet has made stoopid people more vocal. Bring brought up in the country in the 80's & 90's meant that the only internet i had was 56k dial-up and was strictly used for slow loading a picture of a naked burd for fapping, and having the fap finished just after the breasts load. So i wasn't introduced to online gaming until the mid 00's. And, as such, i wasn't aware of online gaming communities, so i couldn't get involved in any flame war and get some wrong opinion of one thing being better than the other for no good reason.

I like a bit of rivalry banter, but i won't play games just because they're on a different format, made by a certain company or because the thousands of fools out there tell me not to. I won't play games if i don't like them (i'm looking at you, Halo).

Syferus · 23-11-2012 5:15am

I've played dozens of fighters and not once has one had anything that even remotely approaching a good story. The closest to enjoyable would be Tekken's CGIs, and that's because Tekken has always had a very intentional air of parody about it. Even then it's pretty much entirely forgettable.

If you're playing fighters because you like the 'storylines' (I put it in inverted commas because every single fighter's premise is completely arbitrary), even in part, you're playing the wrong sorts of games.

Not The Real Scarecrow · 23-11-2012 12:15pm

super_furry wrote: »

I've been playing games for over two decades now and these arguments and attitudes have always existed. I remember the Commodore 64 v Spectrum rows, the Megadrive v SNES battles, Amiga v Atari ST skirmishes, Playstation v Saturn wars and so on.

Gamers, especially young gamers, have always argued that their system/game of choice was the best and everything else was ****e, it's just more visible now on forums and twitter.

I never got caught up in the whole, "my computer is better than yours" thing....mainly cause I had an Amstrad 464,so I'd only be fighting a loosing battle. How my eyesight is still intact from that ****ing green screen is a miracle.

Retr0gamer · 23-11-2012 12:33pm

Fanboy wars are never going to go away, it's just human nature. It's been proven that if someone has to take a stance on something they'll choose one side or the other immediately without even thinking about it then defend that position with all their passion and reason without taking into account any arguments against it.

It explains MK fanboys really well. [/Troll.]

James Howlett · 23-11-2012 2:04pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Fanboy wars are never going to go away, it's just human nature. It's been proven that if someone has to take a stance on something they'll choose one side or the other immediately without even thinking about it then defend that position with all their passion and reason without taking into account any arguments against it.

It explains MK fanboys really well. [/Troll.]

I don't know man it sounds like a personality thing more than anything else.

I like the Tomb Raider series but I know it has flaws. If someone wanted to tell me that they think the Uncharted games are better I'd certainly listen to them and I wouldn't feel the need to tell them that they're wrong and the game I like is better.

Closed minded people aren't worth your time.

Retr0gamer · 23-11-2012 2:09pm

Well it's something I learned from college lectures, thought it was interesting when applied to fanboys.

Doctor DooM · 23-11-2012 2:11pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

Sacrilege! Ass-kicking Mortal Kombat over Super Mega Ultra Street Fighter Turbo Ex + Alpha any day!

OP you'd do much better to just either couch co-op or just game with friends/people you've met online/boardsies and stick with them. That way you don't have to deal with the foul-mouthed brats again

He very specifically said MK vs SF2, and in that case, the originals, only an eejit would think MK is the superior game!

Syferus wrote: »

I've played dozens of fighters and not once has one had anything that even remotely approaching a good story. The closest to enjoyable would be Tekken's CGIs, and that's because Tekken has always had a very intentional air of parody about it. Even then it's pretty much entirely forgettable.

If you're playing fighters because you like the 'storylines' (I put it in inverted commas because every single fighter's premise is completely arbitrary), even in part, you're playing the wrong sorts of games.

Play Blaz Blue or MK9 and come back to me on that.

Some FGs focus on being hyper competitive tournament games, some spend more time on having storylines and tutorials for casual players.

James Howlett · 23-11-2012 2:16pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Well it's something I learned from college lectures, thought it was interesting when applied to fanboys.

Fanboyism is a different kettle of fish alright.

I'd love to see a David Attenborough style mockumentary on the subject of fanboys... think of the potential.

Doctor DooM · 23-11-2012 2:22pm

James Howlett wrote: »

Fanboyism is a different kettle of fish alright.

I'd love to see a David Attenborough style mockumentary on the subject of fanboys... think of the potential.

That'd be amazing.

"Here's the CoD fanboy in his natural habitat... hear the distinctive "newfag" call he makes when clashing with another young male"

James Howlett · 23-11-2012 2:25pm

“During a ‘multiplayer session’ the fanboy issues violent, real-world threads to his competitors knowing full well that he has neither the means nor the physical capability to carry them out.”

Doctor DooM · 23-11-2012 2:35pm

"The fanboy stops. Genuine fear can be seen in his eyes. There's a familiar glow in his room. It's red. He stares down at the machine, and sees the rings. It can only signify one thing. Death."

ShadowHearth · 23-11-2012 3:19pm

Right, anyone who thinks that 80-90s game were better should take off those rosé tinted glasses and snap the **** out of it.

There were good games and bad games back then. And guess what! There are good games and bad games these days!
People should just play what they like.

As for our little off topic:
Fighting games fans ( specially street fighter fans ) makes me always laugh. For me fighting games were only games to have fun with a company. Even these days I play fighting games only when having few drinks with friends. I play MK, tekken ( don't know even witch one, just on Xbox 360 and I always use some Asian fella in suit and hat

), MVC etc. Never really liked street fighter games, just nobody around played those and I did not liked its characters as they are as generics as ****.
And then you meet a "professional" fighting gamer, who LOVES street fighter and all other fighting games are pure shiet and should not exist. Whatever dude, I don't care I just like that slut in some blue ninja suit with daggers. She has great boobs! She makes awesome sounds when I kick my buddies face in, while he tries to get a sip from his can of Budweiser !

ScumLord · 23-11-2012 3:55pm

The only thing that's changed since the 90s is more people are playing. I've been playing games since the BBC micro and this fanboy thing has always been there. The realism thing was even bigger back then though, there was always something new coming out. Back then it was the amount of colours it used or even the first time 3d or actual video was used in a game.

Reekwind · 23-11-2012 4:36pm

I don't agree that nothing, or at least not much, has changed. The OP is mistaken in that these 'fanboy wars' are not a novel development, and were very much a feature of the 1990s, but the industry has obviously changed massively. As has the types of games that are being made

The quality of games has certainly gone up with buggy messes now the exception rather than the rule - one benefit to consolisation and the increasing professionalism of the industry - but I'd argue that the variety and invention of the 1990s has largely been lost; another, less positive, by-product of the aforementioned trends. The stupefying march of franchises and increasing reliance on rules-led design has really, IMO, led to a sharp drop in creativity within the industry. It's increasingly rare to see a genuinely innovative (in terms of setting or mechanics) AAA title these days

Compare to the incredibly fluid years of the 1990s (when barely a year or two went by without a genre rising or dying) and I really think we've lost something. To put this in perspective: the ten years between Wolfenstein (1992) and Medal of Honour (2002) saw the FPS be born, rapidly evolve through Doom and Quake, practically invent multiplayer and be reinvented in Half-Life and, ultimately, MoH. In the decade since MoH the genre has barely advanced, with the largest titles being churned out according to a barely changing template. Outside of the indie sphere there's less variety, less ambition and less scope

Gi joe! · 23-11-2012 4:49pm

Reekwind wrote: »

Compare to the incredibly fluid years of the 1990s (when barely a year or two went by without a genre rising or dying) and I really think we've lost something. To put this in perspective: the ten years between Wolfenstein (1992) and Medal of Honour (2002) saw the FPS be born, rapidly evolve through Doom and Quake, practically invent multiplayer and be reinvented in Half-Life and, ultimately, MoH. In the decade since MoH the genre has barely advanced, with the largest titles being churned out according to a barely changing template. Outside of the indie sphere there's less variety, less ambition and less scope

Well Half Life 2 came out in 2004(jesus nearly 10 years) and I think it set a new standard for FPS's that has yet to be surpassed. Particularly the gravity gun which was just incredible at the time, never having the opportunity to mess around with the physics of the game.

But I agree since then there has been a dearth of innovation, with all the big name series like COD and Halo playing it relatively safe.

I blame the obsession with online multiplayer, its really killing campaign innovation and when most of these games ending up a ghost town online within a few months, you wonder why they put it in at all?

Retr0gamer · 23-11-2012 5:28pm

There's always been a dearth of innovation within the industry. The last time there was any kind of innovation was during the 80's home computer era when there was a lot of bedroom coding. Make no mistake, shovelware and generic games were selling well in the early 90's as well. There were very few innovative games, at most they were iterating on previous ideas. Also anything that was innovative like Homeworld, or System Shock 2 etc. hardly set the charts on fire. People look back on those days with fondness because they can see 10-15 years worth of game development. New ideas and games weren't coming out every month in the 90's either.

Gaming has always been a big business.

ScumLord · 23-11-2012 5:32pm

Reekwind wrote: »

The quality of games has certainly gone up with buggy messes now the exception rather than the rule -

I don't remember getting buggy games back then. You had no internet for patches so they had to get it right straight off the bat. Needing to install patches is a regular event now. The amount of games I've installed only to be told I'd have to install a patch before playing is becoming all to regular.

jaykhunter · 23-11-2012 6:59pm

It's like listening Retro's podcast with all the MK bashing, FFS :rolleyes: I didn't know Dan and the other cardboard characters needed defending. :pac:

The OP was looked down upon for not valuing realism, graphics etc but isn't it hypocritical valuing game-play and dismissing everything else? Hit-boxes over set-pieces? YOU'RE ENJOYING IT WRONG STOP IT!

Seriously though, I really think rivalry extended from having one console and constantly justifying your purchase. I'd imagine a lot of people have more than 1 console but that hasn't slowed down the internet constantly creating rivalries. Even if there's isn't two or three options, it seems to be just pro- and anti- whatever's popular. Wherever you're seeing these aggravating comments, just stay off those sites!

Doctor DooM · 23-11-2012 8:33pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

As for our little off topic:
Fighting games fans ( specially street fighter fans ) makes me always laugh. For me fighting games were only games to have fun with a company. Even these days I play fighting games only when having few drinks with friends. I play MK, tekken ( don't know even witch one, just on Xbox 360 and I always use some Asian fella in suit and hat ), MVC etc. Never really liked street fighter games, just nobody around played those and I did not liked its characters as they are as generics as ****.
And then you meet a "professional" fighting gamer, who LOVES street fighter and all other fighting games are pure shiet and should not exist. Whatever dude, I don't care I just like that slut in some blue ninja suit with daggers. She has great boobs! She makes awesome sounds when I kick my buddies face in, while he tries to get a sip from his can of Budweiser !

Oh hai, I would be a competitive Street Fighter player.

Would you like to check out my youtube channel, perhaps take a look at the Mortal Kombat videos, the Marvel ones, or perhaps the King of Fighters ones?

I don't really enjoy pixellated women though, sorry, liking real ones must be a hardcore gaming thing or something.

Wait

jaykhunter wrote: »

It's like listening Retro's podcast with all the MK bashing, FFS :rolleyes: I didn't know Dan and the other cardboard characters needed defending. :pac:

The OP was looked down upon for not valuing realism, graphics etc but isn't it hypocritical valuing game-play and dismissing everything else? Hit-boxes over set-pieces? YOU'RE ENJOYING IT WRONG STOP IT!

That was me. The original MK was a terrible game, but significant. Thus it was mentioned. Objectively, it's inferior to SF2, it's basically a glitchy mess with a load of palette swapped characters with only 1-2 moves to differentiate them. Its combo system is simple to the point of plain-ness. I still maintain what I said about it is 100% correct. Also, it was a fighting game podcast- was I NOT supposed to discuss MK?!

That said, MK 2 is a lot more fun, and MK9 is a legit contender among modern FGs.

ShadowHearth · 23-11-2012 8:49pm

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Oh hai, I would be a competitive Street Fighter player.

Would you like to check out my youtube channel, perhaps take a look at the Mortal Kombat videos, the Marvel ones, or perhaps the King of Fighters ones?

I don't really enjoy pixellated women though, sorry, liking real ones must be a hardcore gaming thing or something.

Wait

That was me. The original MK was a terrible game, but significant. Thus it was mentioned. Objectively, it's inferior to SF2, it's basically a glitchy mess with a load of palette swapped characters with only 1-2 moves to differentiate them. Its combo system is simple to the point of plain-ness. I still maintain what I said about it is 100% correct. Also, it was a fighting game podcast- was I NOT supposed to discuss MK?!

That said, MK 2 is a lot more fun, and MK9 is a legit contender among modern FGs.

You make fun of me for messing around with friends in MK while having few drinks by calling me a hardcore gamer and you got a whole YouTube channel dedicated to street fighter? Okay, lol.
That's what ment, fighting game fans take it waaaaaaaaaay to serious, and then they get offended if someone else just plays/likes/prefers fighting games for **** and giggles and like some "lighter" and less complex franchises.

For me MK is 100 times more fun as its silly and has some stupid moves, fatalities and other fun crap. It's just silly fun. I don't care that you can't pull off 5 million combo super mega awesome titsballs move in street fighter, some of us mortals like to play for fun? Shocking, I know!

Mr.Saturn · 23-11-2012 8:59pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

You make fun of me for messing around with friends in MK while having few drinks

Have you tried playing it sober?

I keed, I keed. Mostly.

Doctor DooM · 23-11-2012 9:00pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

You make fun of me for messing around with friends in MK while having few drinks by calling me a hardcore gamer and you got a whole YouTube channel dedicated to street fighter? Okay, lol.
That's what ment, fighting game fans take it waaaaaaaaaay to serious, and then they get offended if someone else just plays/likes/prefers fighting games for **** and giggles and like some "lighter" and less complex franchises.

No, I was pointing out that I'm the type of person you've insulted, yet basically made a load of crap up about.

The only difference between a competitive gamer and a non competitive gamer is they have one or two games they play to a greater extreme. That's all. I don't get offended at anyone enjoying any game any way they like: However, you're attacking competitive gamers. You're ironically exhibiting the behaviour you accuse me of.

Also, I went to great lengths to point out it isn't just a street fighter channel. After which you moved your attack to all fighting game fans.

This is called shifting the goalposts.

I wish I could go back to the 90s.

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