New York Giants Thread

glued · 01-12-2014 9:56pm

Mara won't sack Coughlin and Reese brought Beckham to the Giants so he gets one more year. I think Perry Fewell will be the causality in the off season and Coughlin will get to see out the final year of his deal.

Coughlin should get the chop but he won't.

Knex* · 01-12-2014 10:19pm

I thought this was Coughlin's last year. If he has one more, I definitely see him staying.

Knex* · 02-12-2014 3:24am

Honestly, he's superman.

https://vine.co/v/OnLBirvJQga

KrustyUCC · 02-12-2014 11:21pm

He kicks better than Brown

krustydoyle · 02-12-2014 11:38pm

Kiwanuka and Synder also added to the IR today.. so that makes a total of 18 players injured

Knex* · 03-12-2014 12:49am

krustydoyle wrote: »

Kiwanuka and Synder also added to the IR today.. so that makes a total of 18 players injured

About 12 games too late.

(I feel bad for saying it, though)

tgdaly · 03-12-2014 8:16pm

Knex. wrote: »

About 12 games too late.

(I feel bad for saying it, though)

Never wanna see a guy injured of course, but Kiwi playing the amount he has this season is a joke. At least now they have to give SOMEONE ELSE a chance. The guy has 2.5 sacks for crying out loud!!

Knex* · 03-12-2014 8:37pm

tgdaly wrote: »

Never wanna see a guy injured of course, but Kiwi playing the amount he has this season is a joke. At least now they have to give SOMEONE ELSE a chance. The guy has 2.5 sacks for crying out loud!!

"But he's a more solid option in the run game". Sigh.

That shoddy production or fear factor doesn't help our other defensive linemen either, especially JPP.

How Ayers didn't get more game time, despite being in form, will never make sense to me.

helimachoptor · 04-12-2014 11:08am

So who is going to suck less on Sunday? Both teams are banged up, will likely be an awful game

Knex* · 04-12-2014 6:25pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

So who is going to suck less on Sunday? Both teams are banged up, will likely be an awful game

I have no faith in either team

:pac:

HigginsJ · 04-12-2014 9:44pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

So who is going to suck less on Sunday? Both teams are banged up, will likely be an awful game

We are on a 7 game losing streak Heli & are 1.5 point favourites!! I wanted ye to do well this year so it's been huge disappointment all round.

I'm with Knex here, no faith in either team, could be a classic caper comedy.

tgdaly · 07-12-2014 11:21pm

Well at least we beat the Titans

Dohnny Jepp · 08-12-2014 12:35am

tgdaly wrote: »

Well at least we beat the Titans

The giants cheerleaders would have beaten the Titans

Knex* · 08-12-2014 3:16am

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

The giants cheerleaders would have beaten the Titans

We don't have any!

Dohnny Jepp · 08-12-2014 4:59am

Knex. wrote: »

We don't have any!

and Titans still would have lost!

glued · 08-12-2014 8:45am

Gotta feel sorry for the Titans. We're a garbage football team and we hammered them.

helimachoptor · 08-12-2014 11:23am

yup.

tgdaly · 08-12-2014 8:42pm

glued wrote: »

Gotta feel sorry for the Titans. We're a garbage football team and we hammered them.

Titans don't know who their quarterback is that's the problem. At least we have a settled QB in Eli and a weapon in OBJ. That was the difference last night

Knex* · 08-12-2014 9:07pm

tgdaly wrote: »

Titans don't know who their quarterback is that's the problem. At least we have a settled QB in Eli and a weapon in OBJ. That was the difference last night

I know Eli threw that bad pick, but I really loved the way he commanded at the line of scrimmage, changing snap counts, plays, protections etc. He was dragging and moving the backs and tight ends, physically even, on numerous occasions and it was great to see.

He looked pretty damn comfortable out there, the most I've seen all season, and I feel he finally has the full playbook down to a tee. We're seeing a lot more shots down field too, and obviously OBJ helps with that.

I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do next season, I really am.

He's on pace to break 4000 yards this season, which isn't to be sneered at with all our issues.

KrustyUCC · 08-12-2014 11:41pm

If we can get Cruz back to around 75%, Beckham continues to progress and we can get a decent no 3 WR in the draft, I think our pass game will be ok next year

Knex* · 09-12-2014 12:00am

KrustyUCC wrote: »

If we can get Cruz back to around 75%, Beckham continues to progress and we can get a decent no 3 WR in the draft, I think our pass game will be ok next year

And if Larry Donnell stops thinking he can dive 18 yards every time he sees contact.

Parker has been solid, and it'll be interesting to see what happens with Randle and Washington next year too.

The organisation expect some good things from the likes of Marcus Harris too.

krustydoyle · 14-12-2014 8:26pm

The level of effort been shown today is abismal

Just get this season over and done with already

Knex* · 14-12-2014 8:29pm

krustydoyle wrote: »

The level of effort been shown today is abismal

Just get this season over and done with already

Its not a great day, that's for sure.

wawaman · 14-12-2014 9:32pm

In years to come i think we will look back on this year as a good one. Not because of results or record but because OBJ came into the team. The guy is a grade A stud!

tgdaly · 14-12-2014 10:01pm

wawaman wrote: »

In years to come i think we will look back on this year as a good one. Not because of results or record but because OBJ came into the team. The guy is a grade A stud!

We love you OBJ. You are the one reason to keep watching this season

krustydoyle · 14-12-2014 10:16pm

Another great game from OBJ

3 TDs and looking a serious threat for many years to come

Like ye said lads the only reason to watch

HigginsJ · 14-12-2014 10:40pm

He is nigh on impossible to defend. It's not as though Eli has a tonne of weapons, it's sort of OBJ or nothing & he is still racking up catches & yards.

No idea how good this guy could become.

Knex* · 14-12-2014 10:46pm

I said a few weeks back in one of the weekly threads, that I believed ODB would end up being the best receiver Manning has ever had to work with.

I didn't think he'd already look like a Franchise Receiver, hitting these crazy numbers, and adding some ridiculous catches, route running, and everything else as well.

I'm worried about calling rating him too high, just because he is a rookie, but holy shit, this guy is simply looking phenomenal.

Knex* · 14-12-2014 10:47pm

Also, I don't know about you guys, but I'm loving watching Eli Manning again.

Excited for our offence next season, for so many reasons. Even seeing Richburg and Pugh going at it with another years experience behind them, coupled with a fit Schwartz and Beatty. Could say the same for our Tight Ends too.

We need more depth, for sure, but we're not very far off.

tgdaly · 14-12-2014 11:13pm

Knex. wrote: »

Also, I don't know about you guys, but I'm loving watching Eli Manning again.

Excited for our offence next season, for so many reasons. Even seeing Richburg and Pugh going at it with another years experience behind them, coupled with a fit Schwartz and Beatty. Could say the same for our Tight Ends too.

We need more depth, for sure, but we're not very far off.

I truly think we are only 2 or 3 players away from a top offense. A couple of linemen to go with the guys you mentioned and maybe another receiver or tight end to go with OBJ, Randle, a fit again Cruz and Donnell. I think Donnell has shown enough and Jennings in the run game when fit, Williams can still progress and has shown flashes of being good. I'd still like to see more from Randle though

HigginsJ · 14-12-2014 11:52pm

tgdaly wrote: »

I truly think we are only 2 or 3 players away from a top offense. A couple of linemen to go with the guys you mentioned and maybe another receiver or tight end to go with OBJ, Randle, a fit again Cruz and Donnell. I think Donnell has shown enough and Jennings in the run game when fit, Williams can still progress and has shown flashes of being good. I'd still like to see more from Randle though

Randle is a massive disappointment for me. He is being easily outshone by Parker. I do think we need another weapon to go with OBJ/Cruz/Donnell. I can't see us using our top 2 picks on O however as our D needs serious work.

We also need a bit of a spark at RB. Williams & Jennings are only very average backs IMO. There are a few decent backs in the upcoming draft but would depend on who is available in the 4th/5th rounds again.

glued · 15-12-2014 12:13am

Donnell isn't a long term TE. He's a high end back up. Cruz was poor before the injury and we still need a number two receiver. Either ODB will have to deal with double teams or we get a #2 and can stretch the field at both sides with Cruz in the slot. We still need a top end guard. I like Williams and I think he can get better. Jennings is fairly average.

Still think defence is going to be a priority. I don't trust Coughlin but we need a stud in that defence. Would love to see us completely overhaul the LB core and get a stud.

I'm convinced Reese will go DT or DE in the draft. Especially if JPP ends up asking for too much and we franchise him/let him walk. The problem with JPP is that he's not the player we all thought he would be but he is a good player for this team. He knows he'd get 10/11 million elsewhere so we either stump up or let him walk. I'd franshise him and not allow him to become another Beatty. 10/11 per year is vastly overpaying for his production.

Finally, it looks like Coughlin is here to stay. not sure how to feel about that.

tgdaly · 15-12-2014 2:07am

Here is how OBJ stacks against the other rookie receivers

Name Receptions Yards Avg. TDs
Benjamin 67 952 14.2 9
Watkins 59 850 14.4 5
Evans 59 948 16.1 11
Landry 71 672 9.5 5
Beckham 71 972 13.7 9

It's being said a WR out of this amazing draft class is likely to be the offensive rookie of the year. Pretty close between OBJ, Benjamin and Evans. However OBJ has an advantage I think in that these totals came in 10 games after being injured. A New York Giant has never won offensive rookie of the year, it would be great to see OBJ do it

HigginsJ · 15-12-2014 3:57pm

tgdaly wrote: »

Here is how OBJ stacks against the other rookie receivers

Name Receptions Yards Avg. TDs
Benjamin 67 952 14.2 9
Watkins 59 850 14.4 5
Evans 59 948 16.1 11
Landry 71 672 9.5 5
Beckham 71 972 13.7 9

It's being said a WR out of this amazing draft class is likely to be the offensive rookie of the year. Pretty close between OBJ, Benjamin and Evans. However OBJ has an advantage I think in that these totals came in 10 games after being injured. A New York Giant has never won offensive rookie of the year, it would be great to see OBJ do it

In terms of the receivers I think it is a 3 horse race between OBJ, Benjamin & Evans, with Evans possibly having a sight edge due to TD's but Beckham is catching fast.

I wouldn't rule out Jeremy Hill however. He has been in great form for the Bengals and a being a major contributor to a play off team could be a factor in the voting.

Knex* · 15-12-2014 7:30pm

HigginsJ wrote: »

In terms of the receivers I think it is a 3 horse race between OBJ, Benjamin & Evans, with Evans possibly having a sight edge due to TD's but Beckham is catching fast.

I wouldn't rule out Jeremy Hill however. He has been in great form for the Bengals and a being a major contributor to a play off team could be a factor in the voting.

Zach Martin could be in with a shout as well. Doubtful, as he's a lineman, but he's been excellent.

HigginsJ · 15-12-2014 8:26pm

Knex. wrote: »

Zach Martin could be in with a shout as well. Doubtful, as he's a lineman, but he's been excellent.

Was tempted to mention him but linemen really have no shot.

Who is defensive rookie of the year? CJ Mosley has been unsurprisingly good for the Ravens.

phatkev · 15-12-2014 8:30pm

HigginsJ wrote: »

Who is defensive rookie of the year? CJ Mosley has been unsurprisingly good for the Ravens.

2 horse race between Donald and Mack in my opinion

Knex* · 16-12-2014 1:16am

Donald is my shout. He's an absolute stud.

tgdaly · 16-12-2014 8:30pm

Knex. wrote: »

Donald is my shout. He's an absolute stud.

I'd go with Donald as well

KrustyUCC · 18-12-2014 3:00am

Donald is a beast

I wanted us to get him but i'm delighted we got OBJ

Looking at the cutler situation today, no matter how much he infuriates me i'm glad we have Eli

2 time SB MVP proved he can get it done

Cutler got paid on potential, Eli on results

Knex* · 18-12-2014 3:27am

Last years draft had so much talent, but there isn't a single person I'd take ahead of OBJ.

When was the last time that there was a draft whereby Giants walked away feeling like they absolutely got the best person available?

tgdaly · 21-12-2014 10:21pm

Another TD for OBJ. 10 on the year now

HigginsJ · 21-12-2014 10:40pm

Great concentration by Wynn

tgdaly · 22-12-2014 12:35am

Another great touchdown. Great route running, he skinned them

HigginsJ · 22-12-2014 12:44am

Eli having a hell of a night. 29TD's on the year now so needs 3 to break his career high of 31. Should comfortably finish the year over 4,000 yards with the highest completion percentage of his career.

22-12-2014 1:01am

HigginsJ wrote: »

Eli having a hell of a night. 29TD's on the year now so needs 3 to break his career high of 31. Should comfortably finish the year over 4,000 yards with the highest completion percentage of his career.

objs going to do him wonders by far the best reciever ye have had since plaxico

krustydoyle · 22-12-2014 3:55am

So how did we play tonight??

37-27 scoreline makes it sound like a shoot-out

glued · 22-12-2014 8:38am

A lot of sympathy towards Coughlin in the media the past few weeks. Some former players have come out in support of him including Tuck. It's hard to know what exactly the problem is but it does seem as if Coughlin will be back next season.

We need to do better next season.

HigginsJ · 22-12-2014 10:47am

glued wrote: »

A lot of sympathy towards Coughlin in the media the past few weeks. Some former players have come out in support of him including Tuck. It's hard to know what exactly the problem is but it does seem as if Coughlin will be back next season.

We need to do better next season.

These late season winning runs when the season is lost are really saving his bacon, the last 2 years have been so terrible that it is beyond belief that he will be back.

I can only think of 2 other HC's (Bellichek & McCarthy) who would survive such poor seasons but I couldn't see either putting together seasons like this back to back. We will probably finish 7-9 & 7-9 and it will be rolled out that we are not that far away but in truth we are a million miles from a play off team.

We have essentially beaten only 2 starting caliber QB's this year (Matt Ryan & RGIII). The other wins have been against at best back up level QB's (Ryan Fitz, Zach Mettenberger, Kirk Cousins, Shaun Hill) to go along with our wins over power house QB's such as Cousins, Josh Freeman, Terelle Pryor & Scott Tolzien from last year.

We are laughably bad & if 13 weren't here this year we would be even worse.

TC should have been gone a long time ago.

tgdaly · 22-12-2014 8:01pm

HigginsJ wrote: »

We have essentially beaten only 2 starting caliber QB's this year (Matt Ryan & RGIII). The other wins have been against at best back up level QB's (Ryan Fitz, Zach Mettenberger, Kirk Cousins, Shaun Hill) to go along with our wins over power house QB's such as Cousins, Josh Freeman, Terelle Pryor & Scott Tolzien from last year.

And the Falcons like the rest of the NFC South have been a joke, and RGIII has seriously regressed as a QB

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