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Wrongway1985 · 05-10-2015 9:17pm

but1er wrote: »

Whatcwe thinking the path is?

Aldo American stadium ufc200

Aldo ufc200 is there anything else?

I thought it was established that UFC200 will be the first event at a new arena in Las Vegas

Easy Rod · 05-10-2015 9:33pm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Conor talking about Croke Park like it's actually a possibility.

He can't actually believe that, can he?

I think it's definitely a legitimate possibility. They've admitted there are logistical issues but they're working on it. I'd imagine it relies on Conor's star continuing to rise.

The new head off Europe said as much:

http://m.independent.ie/sport/mma/ufc-unveil-new-chief-and-he-has-big-plans-for-ireland-31570979.html

Again, it could be lip service to keep us happy but hopefully not.

JJayoo · 05-10-2015 9:42pm

Mendes didn't have a 2 week camp he had two weeks to make weight

Subcomandante Marcos · 05-10-2015 9:55pm

Easy Rod wrote: »

I think it's definitely a legitimate possibility. They've admitted there are logistical issues but they're working on it. I'd imagine it relies on Conor's star continuing to rise.

The new head off Europe said as much:

http://m.independent.ie/sport/mma/ufc-unveil-new-chief-and-he-has-big-plans-for-ireland-31570979.html

Again, it could be lip service to keep us happy but hopefully not.

It's never going to happen. The residents of the area will never let it happen.
On top of that the curfew for Croke Park is something like 10 or 11pm. The UFC isn't going to have a PPV event that kicks off at 11am and finishes at 5pm on the eastern seaboard of the US, it would be suicide for sales.

TherapyBoy · 05-10-2015 10:47pm

Add to that our lovely unpredictable weather.

CatFromHue · 05-10-2015 11:43pm

TherapyBoy wrote: »

Add to that our lovely unpredictable weather.

Ha yeah that's a good point.

I think the Irish Open in Golf really struggles with this and have moved the event to a few different times in the calendar all with the same result.

Tinie · 06-10-2015 1:06am

CM Punks debut "postponed" due to shoulder injury. Im still skeptical if he will ever step in the octagon.

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/13818152/cm-punk-ufc-debut-postponed-shoulder-injury

kearneybobs · 06-10-2015 1:27am

Not for the feint hearted. People gagging as the poo runs down his legs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFDGWxEdf6Q

Subcomandante Marcos · 06-10-2015 2:25am

To make this page slightly less disgusting, behold your new god.

Mellor · 06-10-2015 3:18am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

He was hunting and going on 10k bike rides with his missus a week before Aldo pulled out.

He posted this on instagram a week before Aldo pulled out. He ran tough mudder the weekend previous.
I'm not saying he was in full camp training mode, but he wasn't sitting on his couch drinking beers.

https://instagram.com/p/4GZtv4vfXC/

JJayoo wrote: »

Mendes didn't have a 2 week camp he had two weeks to make weight

He wasn't out of shape before getting the call, making weight was a non issue imo.

Zero-Cool · 06-10-2015 9:19am

Tinie wrote: »

CM Punks debut "postponed" due to shoulder injury. Im still skeptical if he will ever step in the octagon.

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/13818152/cm-punk-ufc-debut-postponed-shoulder-injury

I had it in my head the last couple of months that we will never see him in the Octagon. Great idea at the start, then he got hit in the face at training and realised these are real ouchies and kept delaying his debut.

Everytime Roufus spoke about him, it screamed 'aaahhhh yeaaaaa he's doing oooookaaayyy.....I spose', no confidence in him, and now he's saying Phil is at 50% in training. Sound like Roufus will throw him at UFC 200 and get a nice cut of the profit.

CatFromHue · 06-10-2015 1:44pm

It could be that or it could be that he's not picking up the stuff quick enough. I doubt the coaches would let him compete if he's not anywhere near the level required.

JJayoo · 06-10-2015 2:10pm

Mellor wrote: »

He wasn't out of shape before getting the call, making weight was a non issue imo.

That's like saying Conor wasn't out of shape so making weight was a non issue.

Even if Chad didn't have to lose a gram of fat the methods they use to actually cut the weight takes a certain level of precision/organisation. Lets say he is using super hydration method that will take out at least 2 days of training when you are down to rationing your water, take out weigh in day, then the day of the fight. So that's 4 days out of this 2 week camp.

This is actually interesting and probably the route Conor used to lose so much weight, Chad would have followed a similar, yet less severe version.

http://fourhourworkweek.com/2013/05/06/how-to-cut-weight-ufc/comment-page-2/

Zero-Cool · 06-10-2015 6:45pm

So, Fedor looks to be fighting sone guy who's 1-0.....and that 1 was most likely put together just for this fight. Jaysus, the fight won't even be worth tuning into!

scudzilla · 06-10-2015 6:48pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

So, Fedor looks to be fighting sone guy who's 1-0.....and that 1 was most likely put together just for this fight. Jaysus, the fight won't even be worth tuning into!

What did you expect? Someone who had a chance of beating him?
Remember his last fight in Japan (i think), he fought Hong Man CHoi and knees were banned!!!!

but1er · 06-10-2015 7:44pm

Tj has left team alpha according to reports!

Faber vs tj what ye think?

martyos121 · 06-10-2015 7:45pm

but1er wrote: »

Tj has left team alpha according to reports!

Faber vs tj what ye think?

Just beat me to it ya bollox!

But yeah, defo getting TJ vs. Faber at some point now, especially when Cruz beats him

Zero-Cool · 06-10-2015 8:12pm

but1er wrote: »

Tj has left team alpha according to reports!

Faber vs tj what ye think?

Aw man, forget Dom, just make TJ vs Faber! That would be a war and I can picture Conor laughing and rubbing his hands together like a mad man in the background.

but1er · 06-10-2015 8:17pm

Mystic mac strikes again! McGregor is on d ball

ASOT · 06-10-2015 8:52pm

He's training out of that MusclePharm sports science place, amazing facilities when it was show on the vlogs for one event I forget which one.

martyos121 · 06-10-2015 9:05pm

ASOT wrote: »

He's training out of that MusclePharm sports science place, amazing facilities when it was show on the vlogs for one event I forget which one.

Found a video of it, it looks incredible:

JJayoo · 06-10-2015 9:16pm

Very impressive facility but wtf is he talking about at 1.44 equating muscle fatigue to getting rocked

martyos121 · 06-10-2015 9:21pm

JJayoo wrote: »

Very impressive facility but wtf is he talking about at 1.44 equating muscle fatigue to getting rocked

Thought that was idiotic as well. There's some things in MMA you just can't prepare for safely, and getting rocked is most definitely one of them.

Dtp1979 · 06-10-2015 9:31pm

martyos121 wrote: »

Thought that was idiotic as well. There's some things in MMA you just can't prepare for safely, and getting rocked is most definitely one of them.

I think fedor used to spin around like a child until he became dizzy and that'd be as close as you'd get to it I think

Mellor · 06-10-2015 10:03pm

JJayoo wrote: »

That's like saying Conor wasn't out of shape so making weight was a non issue.

Even if Chad didn't have to lose a gram of fat the methods they use to actually cut the weight takes a certain level of precision/organisation. Lets say he is using super hydration method that will take out at least 2 days of training when you are down to rationing your water, take out weigh in day, then the day of the fight. So that's 4 days out of this 2 week camp.

This is actually interesting and probably the route Conor used to lose so much weight, Chad would have followed a similar, yet less severe version.

http://fourhourworkweek.com/2013/05/06/how-to-cut-weight-ufc/comment-page-2/

I'm well we're he'd have to cut water. But even if he didn't he wouldn't be training a the few dats before the fight. His "two week camp" didnt include that time. It was more 17/18 days out when the Aldo story broke.

Depp · 06-10-2015 10:15pm

Mellor wrote: »

I'm well we're he'd have to cut water. But even if he didn't he wouldn't be training a the few dats before the fight. His "two week camp" didnt include that time. It was more 17/18 days out when the Aldo story broke.

Plus leading up to the announcement of the injury i think during the week beforehand he put up the instagram post about his 20 mile cycle and flat out with pictures of wrestling practice etc. the whole chad being unfit arguement is a crock and just a weak excuse, cant believe people are still talking about it this far out! sad to think youd see so many people sore over seeing their countryman doing well!

Subcomandante Marcos · 06-10-2015 11:13pm

I think it's bizarre that people can't accept that not having a full camp is a massive handicap and seeing someone like Mendes who is known as being a super athletic beast gassing after one round, where he spent most of it slamming elbows into conors face, is extremely unusual.

Its possible to be bloody objective here, you know? Conor still won, but the fact that Chad was training (he's a professional athlete for feck sake, of course he was training) isn't the same as having a dedicated training camp to focus on conditioning and cutting.

A 20 mile bike ride with his missus is not in anyway transferable to fight conditioning, its extremely low intensity. It's like saying " he was training, sure he walked up Djouce".

Mellor · 07-10-2015 12:18am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

I think it's bizarre that people can't accept that not having a full camp is a massive handicap

Nobody said the short notice wasn't a wasn't a handicap. I'd have assumed that went without saying.
I was just pointing out that he wasn't sitting on his ass as some have suggested. Uriah said that jokingly, but some people took it as facevalue.

A 20 mile bike ride with his missus is not in anyway transferable to fight conditioning, its extremely low intensity. It's like saying " he was training, sure he walked up Djouce".

and Tuff Mudder with the other TAM fighters. Also low intensity?

dave1982 · 07-10-2015 12:28am

Maybe Chad was not 100% fight ready but even if he was, getting winded repeatedly is going to end any fight, seems thats what Conor intended to do. I think Chad was winning until Conor finished him.I would have given Chad both rounds but Conor still done more damage and was able to finish him.

Chad definitely deserves second shot at Conor though.

clever user name · 07-10-2015 3:02am

TJ leaves TAM, Conor is Nostradamus.

Mellor · 07-10-2015 3:33am

clever user name wrote: »

TJ leaves TAM, Conor is Nostradamus.

Mystic Mac surely?

Mr. Manager · 07-10-2015 8:36am

dave1982 wrote: »

Maybe Chad was not 100% fight ready but even if he was, getting winded repeatedly is going to end any fight, seems thats what Conor intended to do. I think Chad was winning until Conor finished him.I would have given Chad both rounds but Conor still done more damage and was able to finish him.

Chad definitely deserves second shot at Conor though.

I'd like to think that everyone could at least agree on this bit. Full camps for both and that's a fight I'd love to see. More so than Conor v Jose

John_D80 · 07-10-2015 9:16am

dave1982 wrote: »

Chad definitely deserves second shot at Conor though.

Agreed. But from my own personal point of view, only because I think McGregor would put him away just as quick, if not quicker next time round, thus silencing the naysayers.

JJayoo · 07-10-2015 2:06pm

The reason I think Chad gasses is because he spent just over 5 mins of a 10 min fight on top of Conor. For a wrestler being on top is the most relaxed position to be in.

Anywho what are people's opinions on Bang's appearance on Fighter and the Kid? Personally I thought it was an absolute bullsh1t showing from Schaub, completely biased

Subcomandante Marcos · 07-10-2015 2:31pm

JJayoo wrote: »

The reason I think Chad gasses is because he spent just over 5 mins of a 10 min fight on top of Conor. For a wrestler being on top is the most relaxed position to be in.

Anywho what are people's opinions on Bang's appearance on Fighter and the Kid? Personally I thought it was an absolute bullsh1t showing from Schaub, completely biased

Schaub being Schaub, brown nosing his friends and Callen being Callen and not being informed enough or smart enough to know any better.

Foxtrol · 07-10-2015 2:31pm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

I think it's bizarre that people can't accept that not having a full camp is a massive handicap and seeing someone like Mendes who is known as being a super athletic beast gassing after one round, where he spent most of it slamming elbows into conors face, is extremely unusual.

Its possible to be bloody objective here, you know? Conor still won, but the fact that Chad was training (he's a professional athlete for feck sake, of course he was training) isn't the same as having a dedicated training camp to focus on conditioning and cutting.

A 20 mile bike ride with his missus is not in anyway transferable to fight conditioning, its extremely low intensity. It's like saying " he was training, sure he walked up Djouce".

He should still be able to go a round without gassing. Everyone around him says he likes short camps so there's no way he can go into a short camp in the position that he's gassed within a round and then expect to be able to go five in the space of a few weeks.

It's extremely unusual for Mendes to fade so quickly because Conor's kicks took the life out of him, without them Mendes would have gone much longer before he tired. If that was Aldo chopping at his legs repeatedly (like the Faber fight) and Medes slowed his movement few would be blame his camp, it would be the leg kicks that did the damage. Despite how 'unusual' a super athletic beast gassing within a round is, some refuse to give Conor credit for his part in causing it.

CatFromHue · 07-10-2015 4:15pm

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/10/7/9469203/t-j-dillashaw-elevation-fight-team-is-paying-me-good-money-to-train

The plot thickens with TJ

"Now, Elevation Fight Team came to me and they want to pay me some good money to train with them," Dillashaw said. "They're offering to pay me to train, instead of me paying to train.

"I believe in Duane Ludwig as a coach," Dillashaw said. "I love the guy. I train with him. Me and him mesh. When you find something that works, you keep it going. Me and him see eye to eye. We train well together.

"I wish the whole thing with Duane would have worked out. I wish Duane wasn't so hard to somewhat get along with.

Dillashaw is not happy about leaving Team Alpha Male after six years. He said he still wants to be part of the family there and most of the squad understands his decision -- "except for a couple."

Subcomandante Marcos · 07-10-2015 4:35pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/10/7/9469203/t-j-dillashaw-elevation-fight-team-is-paying-me-good-money-to-train

The plot thickens with TJ

So he's basically signing with the supplement company as an ambassador and as a part of that he trains at their new swanky complex. It's a total no brainer for him in fairness. Could see more stuff like this happening, wouldn't be surprised if Onnit started a fight team with a few "marque" members who promote their brand.

Hoki · 07-10-2015 6:25pm

Mellor wrote: »

Nobody said the short notice wasn't a wasn't a handicap. I'd have assumed that went without saying.
I was just pointing out that he wasn't sitting on his ass as some have suggested. Uriah said that jokingly, but some people took it as facevalue.

and Tuff Mudder with the other TAM fighters. Also low intensity?

Tough Mudders aren't as tough as they appear, you need a decent level of fitness to come through it but they aren't that bad and I'd expect an out of shape Mendes to still be able to do it with ease, I did a tough mudder with a torn acl!

ASOT · 07-10-2015 9:02pm

Dolce says Hendricks was 218 going into the cut for his second fight with Lawlor and he was between, 210-215 going into the Woodley fight.... That's an absolutely ridiculous weight cut, I actually feel sorry for his kidneys. For the sake of his heart he should either stop getting so fat or never try cut to WW again, that's Rumble Johnson stlye cut to WW. Hendricks would 100% benefit from a lesser cut and fighting at MW imo

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/10/7/9469115/mike-dolce-johny-hendricks-ufc-192-weight-cut-was-a-comedy-of-errors

SureYWouldntYa · 07-10-2015 9:06pm

ASOT wrote: »

Dolce says Hendricks was 218 going into the cut for his second fight with Lawlor and he was between, 210-215 going into the Woodley fight.... That's an absolutely ridiculous weight cut, I actually feel sorry for his kidneys. For the sake of his heart he should either stop getting so fat or never try cut to WW again, that's Rumble Johnson stlye cut to WW. Hendricks would 100% benefit from a lesser cut and fighting at MW imo

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/10/7/9469115/mike-dolce-johny-hendricks-ufc-192-weight-cut-was-a-comedy-of-errors

The bigger MW's like Weidman and Rockhold will tower over Hendricks though. He needs to smarten up soon if he wants a career at the top

ASOT · 07-10-2015 9:07pm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

The bigger MW's like Weidman and Rockhold will tower over Hendricks though. He needs to smarten up soon if he wants a career at the top

Yeah but they would be the exceptions, weidman is just a massive human being anyway, cutting from 218 to 170 is wrong on so many levels. Your 100% he needs to smarten up sharpish or he's bolloxed.

SureYWouldntYa · 07-10-2015 9:11pm

ASOT wrote: »

Yeah but they would be the exceptions, weidman is just a massive human being anyway, cutting from 218 to 170 is wrong on so many levels. Your 100% he needs to smarten up sharpish or he's bolloxed.

They're the top guys though, if Hendricks wants to get to the top he'd be facing them and he'd find it tough.

He only has a few years of a career left, plenty of time for his steakhouse once he retires

martyos121 · 07-10-2015 9:12pm

Jesus, 218 at 5'9" is borderline obese, he only has himself to blame, you can't be that weight as a professional athlete, at any time. He's not taking his career seriously, and as painful as kidney stones are, he fully deserved it for his stupidity. Might teach him a lesson to cop on and keep lean between fights.

Subcomandante Marcos · 07-10-2015 9:22pm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

He needs to smarten up soon if he wants a career at the top

He'll never get anywhere with that attitude

:pac:

Zero-Cool · 07-10-2015 9:34pm

And he'll never get it again and I for one am delighted. Not letting kids touch his belt because they had a smile be didn't like and they didn't earn a chance to touch it. Ending this post as it will easily turn into fighter bashing and rightfully so.

ASOT · 07-10-2015 9:46pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

And he'll never get it again and I for one am delighted. Not letting kids touch his belt because they had a smile be didn't like and they didn't earn a chance to touch it. Ending this post as it will easily turn into fighter bashing and rightfully so.

Like you that passed me off tremendously. Arogence at its highest.

Subcomandante Marcos · 07-10-2015 10:00pm

Johnny Hendricks has been an elite level athlete since the age of 16. He's won literally every honour possible for him.

Four time All American, three time big 12 conference winner, two time NCAA national champion.

The only two people to beat him since the TUF final are GSP and Lawlor, and he beat Lawlor in the fight before that.

It doesn't matter that you don't like him, the man is a proven winner. He'll again.

His entire life the way he was doing things worked, this time it didn't. He'll either adjust, go up at weight or carry on as is.

Either way he'll still be an elite level machine.

Zero-Cool · 07-10-2015 10:19pm

Aw yeah he's a power house but I'll never be able to root for him again. Saying that, it only occurred to me lately that there are more fighters i dislike than i like, strange.

but1er · 07-10-2015 10:22pm

http://youtu.be/NyMHRRFxJ4E

Really enjoyed the chat with Roddy, such a nice bloke! Ryan Curtis one to watch, sbg Charlestown as well very very smart

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