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Galway Plate, Wed 31st July Trends

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  • 29-07-2013 2:20pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭


    The Galway Plate, a Grade A Handicap Chase, takes place on Wednesday 31st July. It is run over 2M 6F and it is always a thoroughly competitive contest that never fails to excite.

    Below we take a look at the trends for the past 10 years (http://tinyurl.com/ptnd98t):

    Age (Win-Place-Runners)
    4yo: 0-0-1
    5yo: 0-0-1
    6yo: 1-4-19
    7yo: 4-10-48
    8yo: 2-4-57
    9yo: 2-8-50
    10yo: 1-2-25
    11yo+: 0-2-15
    8 of 10 winners were aged 7 to 9
    The one 6yo winner was a French-bred trained by Paul Nicholls.
    There have only been 2 winners aged 10 in the last 20 years: Life Of A Lord (1996), who was winning the race for a second consecutive year and had won the Whitbread Gold Cup on previous start and Bob Lingo (2012) who had won a handicap chase at Fairyhouse Grand National meeting and placed in another at the Punchestown Festival on last 2 chase starts.

    Weight (Win-Place-Runners)
    Horses carrying 11-0 or more: 1-7-46
    Horses carrying 10-13 or less: 9-23-170
    9 of 10 winners carried less than 11 stone
    Lower weights have a definite advantage when there is ease in the ground (no horse has managed to carry over 11-0+ to victory on ground softer than good in past 15 years). However the last 3 times this race has been run on good to firm ground the winning weights have been 11-4, 10-12 and 11-11.
    Top Weight: 0262740U45P (0-4-11)
    Horses carrying a penalty (0-0-11) have failed to make the places once from 11 runners

    Official Ratings
    Horses rated 140 to 160: 1-6-37
    Horses rated 127 to 139: 7-14-101
    Horses rated 126 or lower: 2-10-78
    In the past 4 years horses rated 131 to 139 have won all 4 and filled 12 of 16 places. Again trends on official ratings seem to be affected by ground with higher rated sorts doing better on faster ground.

    Recent/Past Form
    6 of 10 winners won 1 of their last 2 chase starts
    9 of 10 winners finished in the first 5 on their last completed chase outing (exception had fallen on last 3 runs)
    8 of 10 winners ran in a class 1 chase that calendar year (2 exception not run over fences that year)
    10 of 10 winners had run in no more than 16 chases (6 of 10 had run in fewer than 10 chases)
    9 of 10 winners had run in 6 or fewer handicap chases (exception ran in 8)
    8 of 10 winners had won no more than 1 handicap chase (2 exceptions had won 2)
    7 of 10 winners were second or third season chasers (3 exceptions were all 4th season chasers)
    10 of 10 winners had won over 2M 4F+
    6 of 10 winners had won in listed or graded company

    Other Races
    Previous season's winner (Bob Lingo): 120 (1-1-3)
    Down Royal Galway Plate Trial winner (Johannisberger): 54P1 (1-1-4)
    McSweeney Arms Hotel H´cap Chase winner (Miss Pepperpot): 032 (0-2-3)
    3 of 10 winners ran in the Gunness Handicap Chase, finishing 8U3
    2 of 10 winners ran in the Topaz Novice Chase, finishing 35
    2 of 10 winners ran in Boylesports.com Bet On Your Mobile Novice Chase, finishing 7P
    4 of 10 winners (last 3) ran in a chase over 2M 4F-5F at that year's Punchestown Festival, finishing 8U23

    Trainers
    Dermot Weld (2-5-13) has a good record in the race thanks to Ansar who accounted for both Weld’s wins and 3 of his other 5 placed runners.
    Willie Mullins (1-3-13) trained Blazing Tempo to win the race in 2011 and also saddled a placed finisher in 2010 & 2012.
    Christy Roche (1-2-7) has gained a win and 3 places from 8 runners since 2002.
    Liam Burke (1-0-1), Tom Mullins (1-0-2) & Tom Taaffe (1-0-3) have also trained the winner once since 2003.
    Leonard Whitmore (0-2-2) has seen both his runners get placed while Niall Madden (0-2-5) has also saddled two placed finishers, from 5 runners (4 of his 5 runners made the first 5). Noel Meade (0-2-18) has also gained 2 places but from far more runners.
    British-based trainers (1-1-15) have seen only 2 of their 17 runners make the frame in the past 10 years. Oslot won the race in 2008 for Paul Nicholls, only the second British based winner since 1990.

    Racing Tactics
    6 of 10 winners raced prominently
    4 of 10 winners were held up midfield

    Price
    8 of 10 winners were priced between 10/1 and 25/1
    Not a strong trends race on prices with winners’ sp’s varying quite a lot year on year, as in past 5 years there have been 2 winning favourites and 3 winners going off at odds of between 16/1 & 22/1.
    Favourites (2-3-10) have won this twice in past 10 years, showing a level stakes loss of 0.25.

    Summary:
    Based on trends from the past 10 years you are looking for a horse:
    · Aged 7 to 9
    · Carrying less than 11-0 (unless ground comes up good to firm)
    · Officially rated 131 to 139
    · Won their start over fences (finished no worse than 5th)
    · Contested a class 1 chase in 2013
    · Second or third season chaser
    · Previously run in no more than 16 chases
    · Run in 6 or fewer handicap chases (winning no more than 2)
    · Ideally previously won a listed or graded chase
    · Won over 2M 4F+
    · Ran in a chase over 2M 4F to 2M 5F at the 2013 Punchestown Festival
    · Trained by Dermot Weld, Willie Mullins, Leonard Whitmore or Christy Roche


Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭rossom


    Can't wait for Mossey Joe to defy virtually every trend when he wins on Wednesday..


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,388 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    I think this race is set up perfectly for The Disengager.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭kiers47


    rossom wrote: »
    Can't wait for Mossey Joe to defy virtually every trend when he wins on Wednesday..

    I hope you bag another big race winner Rossom. But i really think 148 is out of his reach around a track like galway. I do like the horse though but it is not a good betting race for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭rossom


    kiers47 wrote: »
    I hope you bag another big race winner Rossom. But i really think 148 is out of his reach around a track like galway. I do like the horse though but it is not a good betting race for me.

    He's a much better animal than 148 on a going day. Smashed the track record at Stratford last time without coming out of first gear. If he jumps well the whole way around and the ground comes up good its going to take a ridiculously well handicapped horse to beat him - and I don't think there is any of them in the race.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭shy-tall-knight


    Is he definitely running? Thought there was a row in the camp as regards ownership which might have prevented him running...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭rossom


    Is he definitely running? Thought there was a row in the camp as regards ownership which might have prevented him running...

    Yeah still not entirely sure if he's going to run.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭shy-tall-knight


    rossom wrote: »
    Yeah still not entirely sure if he's going to run.

    Well we'll know at half ten in the morning, here's hoping.


  • Registered Users Posts: 321 ✭✭Gatame


    At this stage I don't even care if he wins, I just want to see him run and show us what he can do, would be a shame if he didn't run in my opinion, also for the sake of my sizeable (in my scope of things) antepost bet which is not NR/No Bet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    FFS, no mossey, sickened, looks a pretty ordinary contest (from what little i know) cant help but think he'd have won that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Apparently Mossey Joe will go to the sales at Doncaster next month.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭rossom


    ****ing disgusted at the owners and they're both a pair of retards. How much do they expect to get for a 10 year old? €120k first prize for the Plate is soooo much more than they'll get at the sales. I could not by more annoyed and upset right now. Mossey deserved to take his shot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭tonic wine


    Romanesco 12-1 for G. Elliott down near to bottom of the weights carry 10-9
    Finished 3rd in the Kim muir and was traveling well in the national when falling.

    AP McCoy is doing his lowest weight for 12 months is another tip in itself for carlingford lough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭rossom


    McCoy has done 10-3 on Mr Watson this year. 10-7 isn't wouldn't be an issue for him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭tonic wine


    rossom wrote: »
    McCoy has done 10-3 on Mr Watson this year. 10-7 isn't wouldn't be an issue for him.

    Very true. I heard that today, thought he must be doing lower but wont need to as you pointed out.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 786 ✭✭✭fangee


    So based on the trends outlined who have people plumped for and for what main reason ?

    Also counting for the change in going (if I'm to believe what in told) it could be soft today ?


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