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  • 30-10-2013 6:29pm
    #1
    jamesr123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭


    Is there any such thing as a course that would only go on for like a year? I'm interested in Law but don't really wanna spent much more time in college.. Another year would be enough for me and i'd love to do something in Law:D


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  • #2
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    jamesr123 wrote: »
    Is there any such thing as a course that would only go on for like a year? I'm interested in Law but don't really wanna spent much more time in college.. Another year would be enough for me and i'd love to do something in Law:D

    If based in Dublin DIT Aungier St. has an evening course over four years leading to a law degree. I think that you can dip in and out of it as regards constant attendance. Two years will give you a basic award below degree level. You could leave it then for a few years and return to complete to degree level. The usual law subjects are covered e.g. criminal, contract E.U. tort etc
    You would be surprised how interested in it you will become


  • #3
    Bepolite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Bepolite


    GCD's (or anyone else's) ILEX course. Open University, although this will be English Law.


  • #4
    jamesr123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭jamesr123


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    If based in Dublin DIT Aungier St. has an evening course over four years leading to a law degree. I think that you can dip in and out of it as regards constant attendance. Two years will give you a basic award below degree level. You could leave it then for a few years and return to complete to degree level. The usual law subjects are covered e.g. criminal, contract E.U. tort etc
    You would be surprised how interested in it you will become

    My only hang up would be i'd be 25 leaving college if I actually completed that course.. The two year course might just be the option for me though..

    Wish I had thought of it when I was younger :o


  • #5
    XxMCRxBabyxX
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    You could do one of the Masters aimed at new entrants into Law? I know Maynooth have one? It's basically a three year course thrown into one afaik.


  • #6
    NoQuarter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    jamesr123 wrote: »
    Is there any such thing as a course that would only go on for like a year? I'm interested in Law but don't really wanna spent much more time in college.. Another year would be enough for me and i'd love to do something in Law:D

    For the craic I assume and not actually for a career in law?


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  • #7
    jamesr123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭jamesr123


    NoQuarter wrote: »
    For the craic I assume and not actually for a career in law?

    well i'm looking for a career into gardai, army or somthing along those lines. I'm interested in law but don't think i'd last in college. I'd rather start a career than still be in college..

    Only reason i'm in college now is because of all these feckin recruitment freezes :mad:


  • #8
    chops018
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭chops018


    jamesr123 wrote: »
    Is there any such thing as a course that would only go on for like a year? I'm interested in Law but don't really wanna spent much more time in college.. Another year would be enough for me and i'd love to do something in Law:D

    Do you have an undergraduate degree from any discipline already?

    I think there is a masters in Common Law in UCD, and I think it's just a law degree packed into a year.. or as near as possible.

    EDIT: Just saw MCR's post about Maynooth, seems a few places offer courses like this.


  • #9
    NoQuarter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    jamesr123 wrote: »
    well i'm looking for a career into gardai, army or somthing along those lines. I'm interested in law but don't think i'd last in college. I'd rather start a career than still be in college..

    Only reason i'm in college now is because of all these feckin recruitment freezes :mad:

    I suppose in that case a years course would be a good idea if you have the cash to spare! And I doubt the law course would do much harm on a gardai application either!


  • #10
    Manach
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Night course like the Evening law at UCC?, over 4 years though.


  • #11
    jamesr123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭jamesr123


    Manach wrote: »
    Night course like the Evening law at UCC?, over 4 years though.


    I'd rather a day time course mate.. I might look into that 1 year course in Maynooth for next year..


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  • #12
    XxMCRxBabyxX
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    jamesr123 wrote: »
    I'd rather a day time course mate.. I might look into that 1 year course in Maynooth for next year..

    More info here.
    There's also a two year professional one that's more detailed.

    Afaik there are other courses in other universities but thats the only one I know about for sure.


  • #13
    littlemac1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭littlemac1980


    The 2 year LLB in UL is excellent in my opinion, and you get a full university Law Degree - you do need a previous undergraduate degree in an unrelated discipline to be considered for entry though, and places are limited to about 20.


  • #14
    jamesr123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭jamesr123


    littlemac1980 wrote: »
    The 2 year LLB in UL is excellent in my opinion, and you get a full university Law Degree - you do need a previous undergraduate degree in an unrelated discipline to be considered for entry though, and places are limited to about 20.

    would I need a previous undergraduate degree for any law course? I only have a fetac level 5 course completed :o


  • #15
    XxMCRxBabyxX
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    jamesr123 wrote: »
    would I need a previous undergraduate degree for any law course? I only have a fetac level 5 course completed :o

    You won't be able to do the Maynooth course either then. Sorry, for some reason I was under the impression that you had done an undergrad.

    I'd say that you'd find it hard enough to find a one year law course without a level eight already done.


  • #16
    jamesr123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭jamesr123


    XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »
    You won't be able to do the Maynooth course either then. Sorry, for some reason I was under the impression that you had done an undergrad.

    I'd say that you'd find it hard enough to find a one year law course without a level eight already done.


    would I even be able to do the 4 or 2 year course with a level 5?


  • #17
    XxMCRxBabyxX
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    jamesr123 wrote: »
    would I even be able to do the 4 or 2 year course with a level 5?

    I don't much about it but I think you should be able to do the DIT course.


  • #18
    Cushie Butterfield
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Cushie Butterfield


    This is straying a bit off the topic of legal discussion, but here goes.

    You could always approach your preparation from an angle not directly associated with law or criminal law. What you need now is something that will help you get in the door rather than something that might help you years down the line - something that would either make your application stand out & something that you could bring in to conversation at an interview showing that you have qualities that would help you get through the training & early career process that other applicants may not have

    Some sort of first aid or lifesaving course might be helpful, an ECDL course, a social studies course perhaps something involving youth or social integration. This goes a bit against my earlier advice but there are courses in the area of crisis/disaster management & if you could find a pretty basic one & complete it it might help your application stand out from all the others -I think that's what's probably most important.

    Even if you were to volunteer with some of the homeless or migrant/refugee organisations, a local youth group or care for the elderly group it might be of some benefit as it would show that you are aware of what's going on 'out there' at grass roots level & are capable of integrating with different groups within the community.


  • #19
    Cody Pomeray
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    OP. I diagnose you with having "a hobby".

    Do you suffer from the following symptoms?

    - Curiosity about the law and its processes?
    - Interest in society, what makes our rules, and what defines us as a people?
    - Motivations regarding how society ought to be governed?
    - Don't feel like committing 4+ years to this area of study?

    For god's sake OP, you have a *hobby*.

    Why should any human person feel the need to officially mandate a 'hobby' or interest?

    To actually get any employable benefit, you will need to do your professionals, either in Blackhall or Kings Inns. If you're not willing to take the (considerable, expensive) time of doing so, forgetaboutit.

    Where did this silly idea that we have to formalize our hobbies even begin? Linkedin, I suppose.

    I don't understand it.
    You have a hobby. Enjoy it. Use this forum. Suscribe to the Bar Review. Don't ruin your hobby by feeling you need to formalize something.


  • #20
    Bepolite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Bepolite


    Unless you want to be a barrister, it's all hobby and little/no pay :pac:


  • #21
    Cody Pomeray
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    And if you are a Barrister it's no hobby, and no pay.


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  • #22
    hullaballoo
    Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,750 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Being a barrister is an expensive hobby. A little bit like a meth addiction. Except we're probably not as well-fed.


  • #23
    jamesr123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭jamesr123


    Cushie Butterfield wrote: »
    This is straying a bit off the topic of legal discussion, but here goes.

    You could always approach your preparation from an angle not directly associated with law or criminal law. What you need now is something that will help you get in the door rather than something that might help you years down the line - something that would either make your application stand out & something that you could bring in to conversation at an interview showing that you have qualities that would help you get through the training & early career process that other applicants may not have

    Some sort of first aid or lifesaving course might be helpful, an ECDL course, a social studies course perhaps something involving youth or social integration. This goes a bit against my earlier advice but there are courses in the area of crisis/disaster management & if you could find a pretty basic one & complete it it might help your application stand out from all the others -I think that's what's probably most important.

    Even if you were to volunteer with some of the homeless or migrant/refugee organisations, a local youth group or care for the elderly group it might be of some benefit as it would show that you are aware of what's going on 'out there' at grass roots level & are capable of integrating with different groups within the community.


    I have already done the ECDL and i'm involved with the civil defence which will give me all the first aid skills and experience that I need.. I just wanted to at least complete a worth while third level course as i'v probably 2-3 years before i'll have a proper opportunity of being recruited..


  • #24
    Cody Pomeray
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    jamesr123 wrote: »
    i'v probably 2-3 years before i'll have a proper opportunity of being recruited..
    Garda recruitment is to recommence in 2014, isn't it?


  • #25
    jamesr123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭jamesr123


    Cody Pomeray wrote: »
    Garda recruitment is to recommence in 2014, isn't it?


    ye but very little numbers predicted to be recruited.. I know lads who are even in the reserve who think they don't stand a chance..


  • #26
    chops018
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭chops018


    I wouldn't suggest this from looking at the course outline, but, there you go - only 10 weeks for a diploma (not sure what level, I'm assuming level 6):

    http://www.citycolleges.ie/wp/diploma-legal-studies/


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