1405 campaign news

MissWillow12 · 12-05-2015 8:39pm

The Chief Constable is doing another twitter session tomorrow night at 7:30pm maybe he will update about what is happening with campaign numbers etc... Did the same last year and we found out about campaign two going ahead and numbers for campaign one. I'm not on twitter myself but i'm sure someone would be and will ask about recruiting.

HighburyLad · 13-05-2015 10:15am

Razer33 wrote: »

Same, i would guess that was likely to be another 100 odd letters aswell, doesn't leave too many out of the proposed 230, if 230 was even achievable

Dont forget rates of attrition and all that mate, if campaign 1 is to go by they would need to put say 400 people through to get 230, that being said campaign 1 didn't have the second attempt at the physical but it is still done 12 weeks later if failed, and the PSNI isn't going to wait 12 weeks to see if everybody passes a second go. They will want a flow of student officers starting after each other, I assume this, mind you I was always told never to assume.

countrycop · 13-05-2015 11:11am

Did anyone receive a letter this morning about a physical?

jackrabbit09 · 13-05-2015 11:20am

countrycop wrote: »

Did anyone receive a letter this morning about a physical?

Nothing yet but post is a bit later here

Jalapeno peppers · 13-05-2015 11:53am

You guys should be getting vetting forms before PCA dates if it's going there same way as us

countrycop · 13-05-2015 11:54am

I never received vetting forms...

Jalapeno peppers · 13-05-2015 11:56am

I would imagine it will be a similar order to us countrycop- you get the letter first saying that your application is progressing- then you will get vetting papers and some time after that PCA dates will come out I don't think anyone from the second batch has vetting forms yet

countrycop · 13-05-2015 12:30pm

Jalapeno peppers wrote: »

I would imagine it will be a similar order to us countrycop- you get the letter first saying that your application is progressing- then you will get vetting papers and some time after that PCA dates will come out I don't think anyone from the second batch has vetting forms yet

It has giving me a date and all.. I'm very confused lol

jackrabbit09 · 13-05-2015 12:46pm

countrycop wrote: »

It has giving me a date and all.. I'm very confused lol

maybe you will get your vetting forms on the day of PCA?

820sox · 13-05-2015 1:16pm

countrycop wrote: »

Did anyone receive a letter this morning about a physical?

Were you one of the ones that got a letter of progression last week? Nervous to get home now to check!

countrycop · 13-05-2015 1:21pm

820sox wrote: »

Were you one of the ones that got a letter of progression last week? Nervous to get home now to check!

I was yeah!

.S. · 13-05-2015 7:15pm

countrycop wrote: »

I was yeah!

I got letter last week to advise application is being processed. No vetting or PCA letter for me

countrycop · 13-05-2015 7:17pm

.S. wrote: »

I got letter last week to advise application is being processed. No vetting or PCA letter for me

Maybe it's a mistake...

.S. · 13-05-2015 7:20pm

countrycop wrote: »

Maybe it's a mistake...

See if any post arrives tomorrow. Strange that vetting forms haven't arrived just PCA letter that's all

820sox · 13-05-2015 7:36pm

.S. wrote: »

I got letter last week to advise application is being processed. No vetting or PCA letter for me

Same with me! Was so nervous opening the post box to see nothing!

ant08 · 14-05-2015 9:32am

Hi guys, I got my progressing letter last week and got my PCA invite in the post yesterday. On the progressing letter it states that the online learning will run parallel with the medical,pca etc but it doesn't give you any detail on where to find the online learning can anyone shed any light on this??

fish2690 · 14-05-2015 9:52am

There seems to be a lot of new FOIs appearing on the official website if anyone is interested in a read..

Chickee32 · 14-05-2015 10:04am

I got a progression letter last week but nothing further yet! Just when we thought we at least knew the order things proceed in (since the time frame is anyone's guess!), it seems they've decided to change it lol It's strange as the PCA has a 6 month expiry date so you would think getting vetting started first, as they have done previously, would make more sense seeing as vetting can take quite a few months in some cases to clear. It just goes to show there really is no way of predicting anything in these campaigns!

HighburyLad · 14-05-2015 10:08am

It seems all over the show at the moment lol, I'm trying to find FOI on the site but for the life of me can't find published ones?

Chickee32 · 14-05-2015 10:18am

HighburyLad wrote: »

It seems all over the show at the moment lol, I'm trying to find FOI on the site but for the life of me can't find published ones?

Just found a list of them there, can't add links but if you go onto the policing board website there is a link for FOI at the top right of the page, click that and you'll get another link for the list of responses.

The keyboard warrior · 14-05-2015 10:21am

They have a set way of doing everything. It's likely that it doesn't make sense to us because we don't have the full picture.

I don't think it makes any difference whether the vetting forms go out before or after the pca, as surely they don't process them until further down the line?

It wouldn't make financial sense to process vetting forms as soon as they received them back, given that alot of people fail the remaining stages.

Jalapeno peppers · 14-05-2015 10:31am

I sent my vetting off in feb and had a credit report check a few weeks later!

Catdog33 · 14-05-2015 10:45am

I'm looking at the list of FOI responses for 2015 and I don't see anything related to recruitment in the subjects. Am I being stupid??

Catdog33 · 14-05-2015 10:49am

Ok it's actually on the psni website not policing board

The keyboard warrior · 14-05-2015 10:50am

Ah, who knows then. I've given up with second guessing this process! What will be, will be

Best of luck to any of you up soon for the PCA

KevBo2015 · 14-05-2015 10:56am

lots of activity around the forums last few days good to see. Getting PCA forms before vetting is a strange one haha but as some have said just roll with it, I'm sure its for a reason.

Maybe its cheaper to have a PTI do 30 people for the PCA than it is to pay for 30 vetting forms, when 10 (for example) might fail the PCA.

It would make financial sense to do the cheaper stuff first. I mean the PSNI are paying the PTI anyway, so they won't be out of pocket as such if a group turn up and fail the PCA but they'll lose out if someone has vetting done and then fail PCA.

Chickee32 · 14-05-2015 12:50pm

Just got a call from home there, vetting forms have arrived!

.S. · 14-05-2015 5:29pm

Chickee32 wrote: »

Just got a call from home there, vetting forms have arrived!

Home rang me, no vetting but PCA invite, must be out at the same time

StingrayGC · 14-05-2015 5:33pm

It's really good to see some movement again, just out of curiousity what were your scores? How close to the 70% are they now?

WannabePC · 14-05-2015 7:26pm

I read this in an FOI and it made me smile a little!

In a previous FOI, PSNI stated that approximately 900 people are on the merit list for Campaign 2. If
the recruitment figure above is adhered to, then do the PSNI anticipate that there will be a large
number of individuals so far down the merit list that it is unlikely they will be offered a training place at
all?

Answer
Current projections suggest recruitment of around 230 officers in the 2015/16 year subject to funding
certainty and actual wastage. The PSNI expects to lose approximately 50% of the merit list in total
during the 5 pre-appointment stages, as a result of no-shows, did not return forms, withdrawals, or
fail at one or more stages.

There are no plans at present to run Campaign 3, and therefore PSNI may continue to appoint from
the merit list from Campaign 2 beyond 2015/16, and until there is some more certainty on funding
and sustainability.

The keyboard warrior · 14-05-2015 7:36pm

Yes, that is the confirmation of mine.
I know there was a number of you who pm'd before, asking for a copy.

WannabePC · 14-05-2015 8:11pm

The keyboard warrior wrote: »

Yes, that is the confirmation of mine.
I know there was a number of you who pm'd before, asking for a copy.

Ahh right, good job! Good to see the figure of 230 in an official capacity from the PSNI as opposed to just speculation. To be honest I didn't think the rate of attrition was as high as 50%! I put in a request recently regarding my AC score to find out how many are in front of me!

newpsni · 14-05-2015 10:31pm

Hi all, vetting received this week. Any time frame that they must be completed by ?

.S. · 14-05-2015 10:44pm

newpsni wrote: »

Hi all, vetting received this week. Any time frame that they must be completed by ?

From memory think they have to be returned within 2weeks. Might be wrong though. It's a lot of reading but it will say on forms

MissWillow12 · 14-05-2015 10:46pm

newpsni wrote: »

Hi all, vetting received this week. Any time frame that they must be completed by ?

Yes you should have got a letter explaining them, date to be returned etc.... I can't comment on when they have to be returned could be different to when I received mine think it's within 14 days?! Could be wrong though. Check the letter that came with them.

Mop a top · 15-05-2015 8:44am

newpsni wrote: »

Hi all, vetting received this week. Any time frame that they must be completed by ?

It was definitely 2 weeks last campaign. I can't see it being any different this time around. One thing I'd say is include EVERYTHING!!!! If there's something you're not sure if you should add in or not put it down anyway. Last thing you want is the vetting to get held up while they're waiting for you to disclose something which you might think is insignificant.

HighburyLad · 22-05-2015 7:09pm

Anybody see today in the Telegraph about a small recruitment campaign opening up in the autumn? Hopefully thats good for us on the list?

Catdog33 · 22-05-2015 7:32pm

HighburyLad wrote: »

Anybody see today in the Telegraph about a small recruitment campaign opening up in the autumn? Hopefully thats good for us on the list?

Didn't see, did they say how many??
It's good but I'm also cautious because I could really do with them taking more than 230 from our campaign before starting another...

HighburyLad · 22-05-2015 7:35pm

Catdog33 wrote: »

Didn't see, did they say how many??
It's good but I'm also cautious because I could really do with them taking more than 230 from our campaign before starting another...

Nah they didn't unfortunately I would say maybe 50 to 100, it said about they planned to recruit another 378 in January there but had to shelve it, I think they will take on as many as they can from our merit list. Bare in mind the plan was to take on 378 from campaign 1, 378 from 2 and another 378 from a campaign 3.

Jalapeno peppers · 22-05-2015 8:49pm

If they open up another campaign now I'm putting in for it as a backup- seems a lot of campaign 1 guys did that with 2!

Jalapeno peppers · 23-05-2015 7:02pm

Has anyone from campaign 2 gotten medical dates yet?

Red_bull · 23-05-2015 7:40pm

Hi, I have a date and heard of a few others. Not sure how it is all being processed to be fair!

Jalapeno peppers · 23-05-2015 7:42pm

Hmm I still have nothing through I wonder are they maybe doing boys before girls? Did any other girls on here pass PCA and have yous received a date?

Icarus9 · 23-05-2015 10:18pm

Presumably medical invite dates will be processed highest merit list score soonest and then work down the list

KevBo2015 · 25-05-2015 9:39am

I've got a medical date and it's definitely not 4 weeks after pca!

HighburyLad · 25-05-2015 12:45pm

Yeah as far as I have heard mate, July seems to be the first intake for 1405 and then its to continue as it did before I.e. a squad the following month etc etc.

HighburyLad · 27-05-2015 8:53am

Damn, just awoke to the news about this welfare saga, truly am worried about the consequences of not passing this bill as more fines and cuts could be catastrophic to front line services, and God only knows what that means for all of us waiting here... Anybody else slightly worried lol? Or am I worrying for worryings sake ha?

.S. · 28-05-2015 1:27pm

HighburyLad wrote: »

Damn, just awoke to the news about this welfare saga, truly am worried about the consequences of not passing this bill as more fines and cuts could be catastrophic to front line services, and God only knows what that means for all of us waiting here... Anybody else slightly worried lol? Or am I worrying for worryings sake ha?

I wouldn't stress it as God knows when it'll be resolved but it does make me feel a bit uneasy too.. Can only wait and see how it pans out (story of our lives lol)

Ryan561 · 29-05-2015 10:30pm

Is there anyone that is still waiting on a letter about the PCA or vetting, the last letter I got was about them having to slow things down with budget cuts.

820sox · 29-05-2015 10:49pm

Ryan561 wrote: »

Is there anyone that is still waiting on a letter about the PCA or vetting, the last letter I got was about them having to slow things down with budget cuts.

Hey! Yea, I know of a couple of people who scored mid 60s in the AC who haven't received anything since that on hold letter, around January time.

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