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UK/IE: "Prison Break - The Final Break" [**SPOILERS WITHIN**]

  • 15-05-2009 12:03pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭


    WARNING: THIS THREAD WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN THE FINAL EVER EPISODES OF PRISON BREAK "THE FINAL BREAK"

    These are the final 2 episodes of Prison Break and are being shown together as a 'movie' to finish off the show. They are known by the titles of "The Old Ball And Chain" and "Free" but are being referred to in the media as "Prison Break - The Final Break" and as a movie although they are the last two episodes of the show being shown together as one long feature length episode.

    'The Final Break' shall air on:
    (Israel)- yes stars Action Sunday 24th May 2009 :D
    (USA) - FOX - NOT BEING BROADCAST - RELEASED ON DVD ONLY
    (UK/IE) - SKY 1 - Wednesday 27th May 2009 at 10:00pm
    (IE) - RTÉ TWO - UNKNOWN IF RTÉ WILL BE SHOWING THIS, BUT WILL BE ON SKY1 IRELAND AS ABOVE ANYWAY

    If you are sure you have seen the finale as mentioned above (on the channels on those original airdates), you can move down further in order to discuss the episode.

    Otherwise, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED - there shall be major plot details of the finale revealed and discussed below with no spoiler tags used!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    8
    Just making sure it's all in place! I don't know anything about the episodes coming this week or the finale but I can bet there will be major discussion about how it all ended and what has happened to each character. It is a massively loved show after all, even from those who don't like it any more, they still watch it regardless and are bound to have an opinion on the ending...!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    6
    This is way too early. I shall lock the thread until the correct time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    6
    Well the cousins in Tel Aviv have delivered so we can now discuss the finale.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    6
    Postman is on his way right now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    6
    Wasn't great but at least we find out how Michael dies. What a hero


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


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    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    Wasn't great but at least we find out how Michael dies. What a hero
    Indeed. It was all really pointless. Michael died the hero sacrificing himself so that Sara and his son could escape.

    The only redeeming aspect of it:
    2sae4nt.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    6
    He was going to die anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    It was decent enough. I much prefer Prison Break when they are trying to escape from prisons :D

    The female T-Bag type character is officially the worst tv character ever. Fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    8
    Was that a preview of Cherry Hill? :D

    Have to say I liked it. Much better way for Michael to die than a tumor.

    Some hot lezzer action and an obvious twist with Mahone.

    It is better in prisons. Fact.

    9/10

    Free at last.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    wrapped up the show quite nicely i thought.

    when i first heard michael say, "we're gonna break her out" i was like ffs this is ridiculous and it was, but the main thing was it was entertaining a good to watch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,534 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    8
    Very enjoyable.... Michael was selfless as always. He sacrificed his freedom for his brother 4 years ago, and sacrificed his life for his family.

    And yep, the woman with the comedy glasses was totally ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    8
    Those glasses were great. Too bad she was a T-Bag clone without any acting talent :)

    O/T

    As a curious aside; it shows me 4 people gave this ep. a 10 but only counts 2 of those votes...

    Stab in the dark but low post count/restricted features maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    6
    No. The thread was started last week and 2 people voted 10 last week. I locked the thread and reset the count to zero but it seems to keep the 2 names.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭lukin


    Dammit I thought Michael was going to do what Brad Pitt did at the start of that in that film SpyGame;"kill" himself by electrocution and get someone to revive him later.
    Wishful thinking I suppose, seems like the entire four seasons were a waste as he never got the chance to enjoy his freedom in the end.
    Great to see Gretchen back, I think she was only thinking of her kid when she let Sara escape but I thought her sister was looking after her anyway?
    Farewell Michael Scofield, thanks for the memories.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    8
    Bond-007 wrote: »
    2 people voted 10 last week
    LOL

    They had great faith in the episode so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,227 ✭✭✭awhir


    who wants some fired micheal scofield :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    8
    I have just watched it ( through other sources )and it is a really good finish to it.
    I got fed up of prison break because it got out of control but just stuck with it to see how it would end.
    I have to say...it was a really good ending.
    Complete closure on everything which is good...the screen did not go black !

    I laughed out loud when he said he was going to break her out....he only had an hour to do it...not a full season...
    but all in all top class.
    I like the way they got t-bag....very similar to superman fooling lex luthor in superman 2...
    It redeemed itslef with the finale and then this special ...fitting end


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    6
    This thread is for those that have watched the finale and not a place for those that don't like the show to have a moan. I have deleted a load of unhelpful posts. Take the bitching else where.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭endaob


    He's obviously getting very good at the old breakouts: Season 1 it took 22 episodes to get out, Season 3 took him 12, and now he breaks in and out in 2! Although he didn't make it all the way out this time....

    One thing about the escape scene - where did all the guards go? We saw them all piling into the room, but they never followed Sarah down the tunnel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭Shanegggg


    8
    It was a good final two eps. More of a dvd filler more than anything else. Maybe breaking sarah out was the idea for the fifth season?

    Storyline was very predictable with some horrible acting too! It was a major coincidence that the general, t-bag, sarah and grechen all ended up in the same prison! You think they would've learnt not to put them all in the same prison! :D In the finale it showed T-bag back in fox river aswell.

    Pity after so many years of being on the run, micheal never got to enjoy his freedom. Could have told us that from the start!

    All in all it's been a pretty amazing show. Glad that it tied up most loose ends and we can close the case and let it be. Lets hope we can say the same thing this time next year for lost!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


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    endaob wrote: »
    One thing about the escape scene - where did all the guards go? We saw them all piling into the room, but they never followed Sarah down the tunnel?
    My understanding(open to correction) from what Michael said was the hatch would be unlocked for a few seconds. Could be the same applied when he shorted the wires.
    Shanegggg wrote: »
    IIn the finale it showed T-bag back in fox river aswell.
    The had 2 years to transfer him there. Not beyond the bounds of possibility.
    Shanegggg wrote: »
    Pity after so many years of being on the run, micheal never got to enjoy his freedom. Could have told us that from the start!
    I believe the writers decided he should die as a kind of atonement for all the people that had been killed indirectly by Michael's actions. I think that for him to decide to give up his life for his family is probably the best way he could have gone since they decided he should die.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭lukin


    Sherifu wrote: »

    I believe the writers decided he should die as a kind of atonement for all the people that had been killed indirectly by Michael's actions. I think that for him to decide to give up his life for his family is probably the best way he could have gone since they decided he should die.

    Possibly, but it was really The Company that were responsible for all those people that were killed. All Scofield was trying to do was save his brother's life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭endaob


    Sherifu wrote: »
    My understanding(open to correction) from what Michael said was the hatch would be unlocked for a few seconds. Could be the same applied when he shorted the wires.

    I had considered that - but then they could have tried to shoot out the electrics or radio back to the control unit and tell someone else to check that door that leads straight out of the prison grounds thats left unguarded....
    see if there's a group of people just standing around shooting the breeze rather than scarpering as quickly as possible...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭lukin


    In a way the writers kind of messed things up by having the gang break Sarah out. Even though they got away to Puerto Rico or wherever they are still fugitives from the law (again).
    The very last ep was called "Free" but technically they are not free at all.
    At the end of ep 22 they had all been exonerated and could go wherever they wanted. Those extra two eps were "filler" and not needed at all as Mr.S said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


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    +1 I agree.

    It would have been much tidier to have left it at the end of ep 22.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    7
    Its on in hour :D but so is the champions league final at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭Ron DMC


    7
    Very much enjoyed it.

    Good finish to the series as a whole.

    Breaking out of prisons is real classic stuff, exactly why I loved this show in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    7
    Thought it was a great ending all in all. It's all over now.:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭dade


    thought it was good, started to hate Alex for a minute though. really did think he had turned on them. should have realised the leve of his loyalty after the end of E22 when he tricked christina.

    Oh an at least we know i didn't imagine that scar on sarah's back.

    I couldn't believe they were actually using T-bag to help them. i should have known better at this stage that they we're using him just not how he expected it to be. still it would have been nice to have seen him being someone's b*itch in fox river.

    I began to dislike the show during season 3, but thought i'd watch this season in teh hope that it redemed itself and it did toward teh end. pit iys gone now. course they have left it open coz afterall there was no body. i mean they showed the sheet going over christina's body, they showed what happened to everyone else all we see of michael is a head stone and unless kellerman pulled some strings there's no body under there.

    but then wentworth miller did say he dies in recent interviews so i guess i'm deluded LOL


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    9
    I quite enjoyed it, it tied off a lot of loose ends, leaves the possibility of a spin off and it gave closure to the whole thing. I think I would have prefered if Michael wasn't going to die anyway, that he just sacrificed himself, but that's not a biggie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    7
    Michael dying :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


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    Mr.S wrote: »
    Lol @ female Tbag:D

    It was pure filler though, the whole thing wasn't needed at all, but i suppose it was a good way to explain how Micheal died.

    the whole thing was completley pointless , in fact i would say it took from the intrigue and mystery of last weeks finale

    a few things , the general was devoid of any greatness in this , he was just another jail bird where as last week they fast forwarded all the intrim crap and went straight to his execution , thier is something great about a disgusting villian going to execution but showing him killing time in jail made him look pathetic , any scumbag in prison can order a hit , you dont have to be the head of an almost invincible shadow orginisation , oh and surely a man guilty of high treason and other such heinous crimes would be in a maximum security prison ( akin to hanibal lecter ) and not along side a two bit con like t-bag , it was farcical
    also it was completley incredible that sarah would have to go down for the murder of christina , christina was company , sarah had helped in bringing down a threat to national and international security for that matter , if the rest of the gang could have been exonerated , so too should have it been with sarah , a presidential pardon , whatever , again farcical

    sarah is not and was never an interesting charechter and apart from the refered lesbianism of gretchen towards prison guards , thier wasnt much to get excited about

    the cow that was prison break was well and truly over milked , i know it was a fox show but surely even the vulgar pigs at murdochs empire would have known that sometimes less is more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    I have to say when I watched it last night I didn't really like it but I did like the video message at the end and I guess I would prefer him to have a heroes death rather then the tumor.

    Couple of things that I must comment on other then the obvious flaws (Such as the "Full Pardons":

    1. No Kellerman Annoyed me, I was hoping to see how he got to run as a senator

    2. Mahone tricking the FBI was way to obvious IMO anyway

    3. I might bring up the whole we didn't see a body rule of the prison break universe also we didn't see what was on the dvd he gave lincon(IIRC Mahone gave it to him without Sarah knowing).

    4. The T-Bag Female Character was the almost erotic it was so unknowingly funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Soby


    7
    ziedth wrote: »
    Also we didn't see what was on the dvd he gave lincon(IIRC Mahone gave it to him without Sarah knowing).

    That was the video linc and sarah watched at the end i believe


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    9
    Nope, just 1 disk, it said to Sarah + Linc.

    I feel sorry for any fella that tries to go out with Sarah in the future, she's a recovering alcoholic/drug addict single mother who's ex-husband was a genius that sacrificed himself for her, not much to live up to there


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


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    Solid episode and the writers can be pround of the send-off they gave this show.

    The only issue I have is that I felt Michael was the wrong character to make the ultimate sacrifice. The last eight months of his life were a disaster, a constant struggle and he did it for the love of his brother. He IMO should have been the one that got to ride into the sunset. So I felt that it should have been Linc that repayed the original favour by going down in a blaze of glory by saving Sarah.

    I know some people will say that Season 3 was Linc's payback for Michael but I don't believe so. Sure it was a lot of work and stress (son held hostage) but he had the benefit of organising everything from the outside whereas Michael had to put himself literally in the lions den to save Linc in S1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Mr. K


    5
    This special, while entertaining, was completely unneccessary! The last episode's ending had just the right amount of mystery attached, it would've been nice for Michael to die peacefully. Still, Michael getting the final line was nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Solid episode and the writers can be pround of the send-off they gave this show.

    The only issue I have is that I felt Michael was the wrong character to make the ultimate sacrifice. The last eight months of his life were a disaster, a constant struggle and he did it for the love of his brother. He IMO should have been the one that got to ride into the sunset. So I felt that it should have been Linc that repayed the original favour by going down in a blaze of glory by saving Sarah.

    I know some people will say that Season 3 was Linc's payback for Michael but I don't believe so. Sure it was a lot of work and stress (son held hostage) but he had the benefit of organising everything from the outside whereas Michael had to put himself literally in the lions den to save Linc in S1.

    I disagree. The start of the show was Michael trying to save Lincs life. All that happened between series 1 and series 4 was a result of Michael saving Linc from the death penalty. It would of been a pointless excercise if Linc ended up dying anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,542 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


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    There is one major flaw in the whole thing.

    Michael died in the US and Sarah is living on the run as a fugitive in Costa Rica.

    Yet, at the end of the final normal episode, we see the gang visit Michael's grave in Costa Rica!

    So the US authorities released his body to a known criminal, or never realised he was being sent to Costa Rica!

    I really thought the final double bill was ridiculous.

    Why did Sarah not have immunity?
    How come Gretchen was in the same prison?

    Are there never male guards in a female prison?

    Why didn't Michael's operation from the company with advanced technology work?

    Where is Linc's son, who was the main reason he wanted to get out of prison?

    Why was the general in a normal cell rather than death row?

    Why wasn't the attempted poison of Sarah investigated by the authorities?

    Could go on and on and on...the lazy writing just ruined the show for me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,638 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


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    murpho999 wrote: »
    There is one major flaw in the whole thing.

    Michael died in the US and Sarah is living on the run as a fugitive in Costa Rica.

    Yet, at the end of the final normal episode, we see the gang visit Michael's grave in Costa Rica!

    So the US authorities released his body to a known criminal, or never realised he was being sent to Costa Rica! They could have released it to Mahone or even to Sucre, they didn't know they were involved. As far as the FBI was concerned Mahone was working with them.

    I really thought the final double bill was ridiculous.

    Why did Sarah not have immunity? She did but Christina had hid her involement with The Company so well in the eyes of the law she was an innocent bystander murdered by Sara, who had nothing to do with the taking down of The Company

    How come Gretchen was in the same prison?

    Because it's a female prison, and she's female and a prisoner

    Are there never male guards in a female prison?

    No, for obvious reasons

    Why didn't Michael's operation from the company with advanced technology work?

    It was terminal, no operation would have saved him, even an advanced one, it was just his time.

    Where is Linc's son, who was the main reason he wanted to get out of prison?

    He's in college, if you payed attention to Linc talking you would have heard him say " he's gonna stay on for his finals"

    Why was the general in a normal cell rather than death row?

    He hadn't been convicted yet so he wasn't sentenced to death, so he wouldn't be on Death Row, simple really.

    Why wasn't the attempted poison of Sarah investigated by the authorities?

    Maybe it was, just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

    Could go on and on and on...the lazy writing just ruined the show for me!

    .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


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    She did but Christina had hid her involement with The Company so well in the eyes of the law she was an innocent bystander murdered by Sara, who had nothing to do with the taking down of The Company.
    I don't buy that at all. Kellerman would have been well aware of her involvement in the company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,638 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


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    Bond-007 wrote: »
    I don't buy that at all. Kellerman would have been well aware of her involvement in the company.

    But Kellerman doesn't run the FBI, the lawyer even told them that Christina had hidden her identity. There were rough patches in it if you go back over it but if you watch the show for what it is, it's a good ending, every show has things that don't mesh perfectly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    8
    Did they even have Michael's body anyway? Maybe it was just a gravestone they had erected in his memory because they were all hiding out from the authorities after breaking Sarah out? Maybe Mahone was able to transport it before burial and bring it over the border, maybe not.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    9
    I would have thought the body would have been released to his next of kin, which would be Linc, and Linc can have him buried wherever he wanted, although, if he was electrocuted there mightn't have been much of a body left to bury...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 883 ✭✭✭moe_sizlak


    even christina wasnt company in the laws eyes , she was pointing a gun at michael and indeed shot him , sarah saved his life , im america , self defense allows you to use deadly force , her being sent down is wrong on many levels

    even the general wasnt yet convicted , an individual like him wouldnt have been in with two bit cons , they would have been in a maximum security facility


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,638 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


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    moe_sizlak wrote: »
    even christina wasnt company in the laws eyes , she was pointing a gun at michael and indeed shot him , sarah saved his life , im america , self defense allows you to use deadly force , her being sent down is wrong on many levels

    even the general wasnt yet convicted , an individual like him wouldnt have been in with two bit cons , they would have been in a maximum security facility

    They never seen Christina shoot Micheal on the camera footage, all that was on it was Sara shooting Christina in the back. So in their eyes it was in cold blood.

    Maybe was a maximum security facility, Tbag for instance is a pretty dangerous felon, no two bit cons there I could see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


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    County jail would not be high security. That is just the local remand holding centre for the Miami area.
    You would expect the general and T-Bag to be locked up in the Federal prison supermax.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    3
    Just watched these tonight. Not the worst ever episode, but it was completely unnecessary. There were a lot of holes, but that's pretty much the whole season. Nice to see how exactly Michael died and why Sara was in South America, but that's about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭cabrwab


    7
    Got to watch this finally last night.

    Not the best episode, but i certainly enjoyed the second half more then the first. It was slightly silly, no reason as to why they had to do it, they tied up nicely the show in the first instance.
    I thought it was interesting how they got sarah, p*ssed off law enforcement doing there best to get on of the crew.

    Wish they had of finished the show earlier but still going to miss its stupidity!

    I doubt they got the body down to costa-rica.
    I hope it suddenly doesn't appear michael is alright at some point he survived and the fed's have him!!
    This better be the end.

    1 thing i noticed that spoiled mahone is he good or bad was the fact he was with linc, sucre, sarah and mini michael at the end of the proper series.
    So you knew he wasn't bad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


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    cabrwab wrote: »
    1 thing i noticed that spoiled mahone is he good or bad was the fact he was with linc, sucre, sarah and mini michael at the end of the proper series.
    So you knew he wasn't bad

    Yeah, but none of them had any idea that he was the one that told the feds about the blind spot, which lead to the new plan and ultimately to Micheal's slightly premature death.


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