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What happened to funky penguin?
After a huge absence (it was impossible for me to work full time and study at all) from studying Japanese properly, I'm finally getting back into it this week. I'm starting basically from scratch again, but I'm racing through my old textbooks at the moment and I'm having no trouble at all with the first few days of Anki (I just downloaded the Remembering the Kanji 1 through to 3 deck, so they're currently in order of book one). I'm adding new Kanji at a pace of 10 per day. I'm also making my own vocab deck, I'm intending to update it with a load of words every couple of weeks, the deck is currently adding 8 new words per day, I'll slow it down if I start to get a lot wrong. But so far so good.
Guess I'll try and keep my progress updated here too, but now I'm back to square one :P
Edit; So that's 10 Kanji at 100% accuracy
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Yes, time is a huge problem for me. There's no way I can do all the reading in the time available, so I have to decide which questions to leave out and concentrate on the others.
Rather comically, my practice exam book says "There is a total of 105 minutes for this part of the test. Spend around 90 minutes answering the questions in each section and then use the remaining 15 minutes to review your answers".
I choose to interpret this as "Spend 104.5 minutes trying to suppress your rising sense of panic as you try to work through the questions as fast as you can while still going slowly enough to have a chance of understanding at least some of what you are reading, and then spend the remaining 30 seconds frantically filling in random answers for the questions you didn't have time for".
I presume that's what they meant? No?
Thats certainly how I interpret it too
! Think I've had to guess the answers to all the questions for at least two or three of the articles.. purely because I didn't have enough time. Really is a ridiculous amount of time.. even in english you might struggle to read nine articles and answer questions on them in that time!
Another thing I thing that I found tough was that they don't give out complete vocab/kanji lists anymore or am I wrong? I find I can interpret a lot of vocab even if I don't know it by looking at the kanji, but in the exam they threw in a load of hiragana only vocab that really threw me!0 -
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Yeah, I've listened to a few of the practice listening tests driving to work. I'm living in Japan so my listening comprehension is light-years ahead of my reading. I must throw some N2 listening on my phone and see what it's like!
Good stuff! I'm living in Japan too and my listening comprehension is crap.
I never thought I would get to the point where I can understand written Japanese better than spoken, but there it is.
Just one more word of advice IF you haven't done a JLPT before: as discussed above the exam is a race against time. Do a little bit of time planning before you go in (how long you can afford to spend on each question, each section) and during the exam don't spend too long thinking about questions - if there's one you don't know, choose an answer at random and move on quickly.0 -
Just one more word of advice IF you haven't done a JLPT before: as discussed above the exam is a race against time. Do a little bit of time planning before you go in (how long you can afford to spend on each question, each section) and during the exam don't spend too long thinking about questions - if there's one you don't know, choose an answer at random and move on quickly.
I think is very important alright. Every year I hear people complaining about how they failed because there wasn't enough time. For a test like this time-management is vital. I've set aside some time at the end of the week to do two or three proper practice runs to get in the right mode for the test. I was working on some reading comprehension exercises earlier and felt pretty good about them which was a big surprise. Haven't checked the answers yet!
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Good stuff! I'm living in Japan too and my listening comprehension is crap.
I never thought I would get to the point where I can understand written Japanese better than spoken, but there it is.
Not saying my listening in general is hot **** but in my opinion the N3 listening is not difficult for someone with prolonged exposure to Japanese. I guess it makes sense as N3 is still only what, upper beginner level?0 -
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Well, it's all over here. I reckon I'll be seeing N3 again come the summer. I wish they offered it more than twice a year.
Reading speed and time management were my undoing for the reading comprehension section. There were a lot of questions I wanted to go back to and think about some more but I ended up coloring in almost random boxes quicksmart. Kicked the listening section in the face. Expecting almost full marks in it. Have a whole winter's worth of study to look forward now.
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Hibby, maybe it was ok! Listening was probably ok for ya, and if you gave the kanji/grammar questions a shot then the chances aren't bad. I was sure I was fairly sure I failed last time around but pleasantly surprised by my pass. It was definitely a scraped pass, but still!
It's a bit late now, and not worth that much, but I think my strong point was my answering speed. It definitely counts for a lot, as you need all the time you can get for the long reading sections. I practiced answering quickly and it helped on the day.
Anyways hope it was ok and you too Tristram.
Seems like we'll all be taking a jlpt in july though, I think I will try the N1. I suggest we make an unbreakable pact to study like crazy and kick the JLPT's ass.
Having said that I'm not a hundred percent sure! I don't know if I'll have time to study properly with other committments, but at the moment my thinking is if I sign up to it, I will try harder, and I really want to improve my Japanese by July!! 0 -
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Cheers joe, honestly I just put a stab at it!
I'm sure there's a good few things wrong with it.
I appreciate the correction! I honestly with more people would do it, and as a small note: if anyone sees me writing incorrect Japanese, please correct me! I'll always be grateful.
I'm just on 1,785, so about 250 to go. Can't believe how close I am to finishing. I'd say I'll have it finished sometime in the new year. Coming home again for Xmas, so that might put a damper on things
Honestly, I think I've definitely come on without realizing it. I read a manga the other day that I hadnt seen in a while and recognized a lot more than before. (maybe 5% now! Ha!)
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That's great that your co-workers are doing that for you Hibby. sometimes I've noticed a trend for people to use you as a free English lesson if they get the opportunity. がんばって‼
グループレッスンとプライベートレッスンの中で、プライベートレッスンは一番がいい思いってんけど。
But I whatever suits you best, good luck with it! 0 -
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fanki na pengin wrote: »That's great that your co-workers are doing that for you Hibby. sometimes I've noticed a trend for people to use you as a free English lesson if they get the opportunity. がんばって‼
グループレッスンとプライベートレッスンの中で、プライベートレッスンは一番がいい思いってんけど。
But I whatever suits you best, good luck with it!
Funnily enough, I've never had the experience of people trying to use me for free English practice. Apart from my colleagues, I find it rare to meet someone who could string an English sentence together.
Last night we had our work 忘年会 and it was Japanese all evening. It's very good for immersion but what I find is that I understand less and less as the conversation continues. I don't know why that is, but I've experienced it a lot.
For example, last week I flew back to Ireland, and I was seated beside a nice middle-aged couple on the flight from Osaka to Frankfurt. Conversation starts out with pleasantries; where are you from, where are you working, your Japanese is 上手, that sort of thing. No problem there. Next the man starts talking about energy companies, power generation, and so on. I'm still coping okay, because I happen to know that vocabulary (it's my line of work). A few minutes later he's talking about politicians and civil servants and I can't understand a single thing; I'm just staring in incomprehension.
I find pretty much any conversation that lasts more than 5-10 minutes follows this trajectory - the subject matter gets more complicated, the sentences get longer, the person speaks faster and less clearly as they get into their stride... - and I quickly end up out of my depth.
Anyway, I will try private lessons. I guess there is an element of luck as to whether you get a good teacher. I will try to get someone who is a qualified Japanese teacher.
Thanks for the advice!0 -
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