News and views on Greystones harbour and marina [SEE MODERATOR WARNING POST 1187]

vinpaul · 14-05-2011 10:48am

Presumably to stop boats from entering inner harbour

Tabnabs · 14-05-2011 2:58pm

What has a private builder/local authority harbour that got to do with the local club?

And which club, sailing or "motoryacht" club (which has some interesting founding members...)?

Fiachra2 · 15-05-2011 9:11am

vinpaul wrote: »

Presumably to stop boats from entering inner harbour

Correct. Apparently they are concerned about safety./insurance etc. A concern which doesnt extend to other parts of the habour as evidenced by the highly dangerous metal fence which runs down the beach. At very least this is going to scare the living daylights out of some sailor, kayaker, swimmer who gets caught in it. At worst it could drown someone.

Fiachra2 · 15-05-2011 9:13am

Tabnabs wrote: »

What has a private builder/local authority harbour that got to do with the local club?

And which club, sailing or "motoryacht" club (which has some interesting founding members...)?

Greystones Sailing Club.

campbellu · 15-05-2011 11:38am

Fiachra2 wrote: »

Correct. Apparently they are concerned about safety./insurance etc. A concern which doesnt extend to other parts of the habour as evidenced by the highly dangerous metal fence which runs down the beach. At very least this is going to scare the living daylights out of some sailor, kayaker, swimmer who gets caught in it. At worst it could drown someone.

On the few days we swam the most common comment was the "purpose" of this highly dangerous fence, to keep people from going to the other side of it! yes, is this because this side is the proposed site for the club houses ? and as such still governed by rules of safety, we thought it would be better to take away the fence now, let people sit on the concrete steps, swim in this harbour section (which we can access anyway?) and when/if building resumes a proper secure fence could be erected/or not. Why not let us use what is there now, there may be no tomorrow! Live in the present.

Fiachra2 · 22-05-2011 1:04pm

From the Greystones Guide

LARGE BANNERS were placed on the walls of several business premises in Greystones over the weekend as the GIVE US BACK OUR HARBOUR group steps up its campaign to have the harbour hoardings removed in time for the summer.

This phase of the campaign involves mounting banners bearing the slogan “Give Us Back Our Harbour — Take Down the Hoardings” at various points in the harbour and around the town.

Basil Miller, a local resident and spokesman for the group, explained that GUBOH represents a large group of residents and businesses in Greystones whose quality of life and level of business have been adversely affected by the unsightly hoardings.

“The community’s quality of life has been drastically affected,” said Miller. “The appearance of the whole harbour area is ruined, hospitality businesses in the area have seen massive decline in their trade and this fall-off is felt throughout the town

“The approach to Greystones from the Bray Cliff Walk now has a prison-like appearance and the community has been cut off from the marine environment which has always been central to life in our town

“We accept that the hoardings have been necessary until now for safety reasons. However, they have been in place for three and a half years, which is a great deal longer that we were originally led to believe. Work on the site ceased about six months ago and there seems little likelihood of it recommencing in the near future.

“Completion of this project is, we understand, dependent on an uplift in the housing market. Few informed commentators believe this will happen for quite a number of years. We sympathise with SISPAR’s financial difficulties but we do not believe it is acceptable for a developer to seal off a harbour and a portion of the coastline from the public for an indefinite period purely for commercial reasons.”

Miller went on to stress that GUBOH is not opposing the completion of the Bord Pleanala-approved development.

“The harbour is now built and the issue which previously divided the town is no longer relevant. The community is united in one demand. We want our harbour and seashore back, we want the public amenity which we previously enjoyed restored to the community — and we want this done in time for the summer season.

“We are also convinced that restoring this public amenity will bring some uplift to the local economy, an uplift which is badly needed in the current recession.”

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_148849258516045

GUBOH Group

Fiachra2 · 26-05-2011 1:09pm

Its good to see public representatives coming to their senses.

This proposal is not all that is needed but it is certainly moving in the right direction.

http://www.greystonesguide.com/articles/article/6961207/156320.htm

Alan_P · 31-05-2011 10:53am

Some coverage in today's Irish Times.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0531/1224298147125.html

Son of Jack · 01-06-2011 6:38pm

Informative.

http://greystones.posterous.com/what-happened-at-the-town-council-meeting-las

Audio from East Coast Radio.

The Lord Mayor and a representative of GUBOH discuss what was said last night at the meeting which included SISPAR

Jimjay · 02-06-2011 2:32pm

Son of Jack wrote: »

Informative.

http://greystones.posterous.com/what-happened-at-the-town-council-meeting-las

Audio from East Coast Radio.

The Lord Mayor and a representative of GUBOH discuss what was said last night at the meeting which included SISPAR

PleAse can someone post details, i cannot follow link on my Phone. Thanks

Cookie_Monster · 03-06-2011 2:00pm

Jimjay wrote: »

PleAse can someone post details, i cannot follow link on my Phone. Thanks

from Link

What happened at the Town Council meeting last night?

Mayor Ciarán Hayden and GUBOH spokesman Basil Miller discussed the outcome of the Town Council meeting on 31 May this morning on EastCoast. We and the Mayor appear to have diametrically opposed views on what exactly happened, and what Sispar did or did not promise and when.

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After the show, GUBOH wrote to the Mayor as follows:

I guess we will see from the minutes, but my understanding, and it's the understanding of all the GUBOH crowd there and of other councillors, is different from yours as expressed on ECFM today. Our understanding is that the only thing Sispar guaranteed to deliver is to replace the hoardings on the Cliff Road with decorative railings. Full stop. That's no more than 10% of the hoardings as they now stand, and an even tinier fraction of the total fencing around the site.

All the other aspects you mentioned this morning on ECFM did indeed arise in the course of the TC meeting, but no guarantee was given of any of them happening, still less by a set date. Everything in your plan, and presumably in ours and Derek Mitchell's also, is in Sispar's view, as stated by Paraic Keogh, subject either to NAMA approval or alternative funding — by which time summer will be over without anyone being able legally to set foot anywhere in the harbour except on the slip, and our kids yet again being prevented from playing on the beach.

That would be the fourth summer without the use of the central public amenity in Greystones being available to the public. That kind of proposal is an insult to you, to us, to all the councillors, and to the people of Greystones.

I would appeal to you to leave the politics out of it, as several councillors asked last night. I would appeal to you to join wholeheartedly with the FG and Lab groups, ourselves and the HUG in getting the initial meeting with Sispar/WCC scheduled as soon as possible.

I ask you as Mayor to use the time you have left in office to move things along, and therefore to write today in that capacity as leader of the Town Council, to Messrs Keogh, O'Rourke and Quirke asking for the meeting at the earliest possible date. You can take it that our two representatives will make themselves available at the time you choose.

We look forward to presenting a united front with you and the other councillors at that meeting in order to get public access to a properly landscaped space, to the beach, and to the pier or piers.

recedite · 03-06-2011 7:47pm

Jimjay wrote: »

PleAse can someone post details, i cannot follow link on my Phone. Thanks

At 06.40 of the recording Mayor Hayden says that "on 15th July we are going to have the southern end of the harbour opened up, and opened up to the public" (presumably the area south of the new slipway) Hoardings in that area will apparently be removed and replaced with decorative railings.
He also says that Sispar have agreed to put in car parking, a grassy public square area, and "pens" for the watersports clubs to store their equipment in, but is evasive concerning the timescale for that aspect of the works.

F3 · 04-06-2011 10:04pm

recedite wrote: »

At 06.40 of the recording Mayor Hayden says that "on 15th July we are going to have the southern end of the harbour opened up, and opened up to the public" (presumably the area south of the new slipway) Hoardings in that area will apparently be removed and replaced with decorative railings.
He also says that Sispar have agreed to put in car parking, a grassy public square area, and "pens" for the watersports clubs to store their equipment in, but is evasive concerning the timescale for that aspect of the works.

Nope that's not what was said, this is pure spin, like a child grabbing the cookie jar

F3 · 04-06-2011 10:14pm

Remove 70 m of hoarding along cliff road, replace with railings, no access to beach, no access to piers, any proposals from any TC or Group (even the penny and dime proposals that will make the harbour look worse than it does now) will, according to Sispar be issued to NaMa for funding approval......who in the name of @£;&(@)@) do you think you are trying to fool!!!.???? Too arrogant, to cosy, too Celtic Tiger Irish.........give us a break Sispar, save it for the gob****es who think they will profit from keeping you sweet.

recedite · 05-06-2011 12:21am

F3 wrote: »

Nope that's not what was said, this is pure spin, like a child grabbing the cookie jar

Well, we'll see on 15th July.
Either Mayor Hayden is a man of action, getting things done, or he's a delusional soul living in cloud cuckoo land.

F3 · 05-06-2011 8:15am

recedite wrote: »

Well, we'll see on 15th July.
Either Mayor Hayden is a man of action, getting things done, or he's a delusional soul living in cloud cuckoo land.

Oh we will get the the 70m of hoarding replaced with railings along cliff road by then, but we will not have an amenity, we will not have access to the piers, we will not have landscaped areas, what we will have is a 'dogs dinner' to look at. Greystones needs a harbour that is not only functional, but provides a visual amenity to attract visitors and boost the town economy as well as boosting the moral of it's citizens. I can't understand why this has been allowed happen? Why is Finne Fail claiming this to be a success and if it is a success why is it fine fails success? This is typical of the party that has deceived the people of Ireland for decades, they won't deceive me!!! Fine Fail have no seats in Wicklow as far as I can see so I wonder is this some twisted attempt at a political campaign ?? I do not care much for politicians but I read that all parties are united in the campaign to give us back our harbour as an amenity for the people of Greystones, I heard that there was a consensus by the town council to leave the politics to one side and put a

United front to Sispar to get the amenity back

F3 · 05-06-2011 8:24am

I'm not being critical one one person who is genuinely helping to achieve the united goal of the entire town concillors and the face book group ' give us our harbour back' I just feel he should stop behaving childishly. My daughter is 6 and wants to be first all the time in school, first inside the door after break, first to finish her school work, first in line, first in every imaginable thing that a 6 year old considers important and when she is not first, she has been known to sulk for the rest of the day and be quite disruptive in class!!! We have had several meetings with her teacher to try and explain to her that life is not about always 'grabbing the cookie jar' her class mates have turned against her and she cannot understand why, she is adorable and loving, but she needs to learn that people will only take so much. She's in senior infants, maybe the Mayor should go back to school and learn how to behave!!!

Blanchflower · 05-06-2011 12:32pm

Based on the eyewithness accounts of nearly everyone in attendance the Fianna Fail plan on the harbour appears to have been soundly rejected by Sispar at the Town Council meeting last Monday. What Greystones needs now more than ever to get access to the harbour is a cohesive amalgamation of all the political parties. At this time of opportunity Greystones cannot afford to have any maverick politician engaging in selfish solo runs into blind alleys at the expense of the overall Greystones community.

vinpaul · 06-06-2011 11:10am

Passed by harbour on Friday evening and spotted 3 or 4 men fishing from North Pier. Did they gain access from the sea or climb over the wall close to the new cove further north. What is the regulation. Are they trespassers. Was also informed that fishermen were seen on South pier some days ago. If the public are going to start using the harbour what can Sispar or WCC do about it.

The Durutti Column · 06-06-2011 11:36am

vinpaul wrote: »

Passed by harbour on Friday evening and spotted 3 or 4 men fishing from North Pier. Did they gain access from the sea or climb over the wall close to the new cove further north. What is the regulation. Are they trespassers. Was also informed that fishermen were seen on South pier some days ago. If the public are going to start using the harbour what can Sispar or WCC do about it.

Near disaster yesterday involving a vessel cracking its hull on launching from the slip and subsequently capsizing outside the harbour, the rescue boat was engaged in untangling a vessel caught up in the recently moved Herris fence and the coast guard helicopter had to be dispatched to the capsize by a 999 call. Nobody hurt thank God, but the entire spectacle was observed by a group of anglers fishing off the east pier — probably your friends, Vinpaul.

We need rapid action from Sispar to make the area safe and open it to safe public use with by-laws and supervision. The site is totally porous, there is no live security, only NetWatch, and to ensure safety, insofar as a working harbour can be safe, it needs to be finished, have a harbour aithority, Harbour Master, by-laws and enforcement. That Herris fence has to go — they moved it a little, but as yesterday showed it is still a menace, and a junior sailing training course has just begun -- lasts for two weeks.

Blandpebbles · 06-06-2011 6:25pm

What time was this at? Was there several times yesterday and specifically checking out the yacht that moored there last night. Seems to be no one stopping boats coming in.

vinpaul · 06-06-2011 7:06pm

The Durutti Column wrote: »

Near disaster yesterday involving a vessel cracking its hull on launching from the slip and subsequently capsizing outside the harbour, the rescue boat was engaged in untangling a vessel caught up in the recently moved Herris fence and the coast guard helicopter had to be dispatched to the capsize by a 999 call. Nobody hurt thank God, but the entire spectacle was observed by a group of anglers fishing off the east pier — probably your friends, Vinpaul.

We need rapid action from Sispar to make the area safe and open it to safe public use with by-laws and supervision. The site is totally porous, there is no live security, only NetWatch, and to ensure safety, insofar as a working harbour can be safe, it needs to be finished, have a harbour aithority, Harbour Master, by-laws and enforcement. That Herris fence has to go — they moved it a little, but as yesterday showed it is still a menace, and a junior sailing training course has just begun -- lasts for two weeks.

Don't understand remark "proably your friends, Vinpaul". Was just stating what I observed last week. I am not an angler nor do I have any fishermen among my friends. Snide remarks do not have a place on this forum. I am among many people from Greystones who would welcome the opening to the public of at least some of the completed harbour.

The Durutti Column · 06-06-2011 10:32pm

vinpaul wrote: »

Don't understand remark "proably your friends, Vinpaul". Was just stating what I observed last week. I am not an angler nor do I have any fishermen among my friends. Snide remarks do not have a place on this forum. I am among many people from Greystones who would welcome the opening to the public of at least some of the completed harbour.

Not a snide remark — just referring to the guys you saw jocosely. Or is humour not allowed on the boards? Jesus!

The Durutti Column · 06-06-2011 10:38pm

Blandpebbles wrote: »

What time was this at? Was there several times yesterday and specifically checking out the yacht that moored there last night. Seems to be no one stopping boats coming in.

Sorry, getting my days mixed up due to the long weekend. Keep thinking today is Sunday Sunday was Saturday, you know that feeling. I should have said the incident happened on Saturday, while GSC were launching from the slip. The two crew of the capsized boat actually managed to swim ashore -- the tide was taking them & the boat south and a passerby on shore called it in. Afternoon.

And yes, someone entered the inner harbour despite the 'cheeswire' cables and moored overnight. The harbour is open!

LEIN · 07-06-2011 10:45am

vinpaul wrote: »

Don't understand remark "proably your friends, Vinpaul". Was just stating what I observed last week. I am not an angler nor do I have any fishermen among my friends. Snide remarks do not have a place on this forum. I am among many people from Greystones who would welcome the opening to the public of at least some of the completed harbour.

The Durutti Column wrote: »

Not a snide remark — just referring to the guys you saw jocosely. Or is humour not allowed on the boards? Jesus!

Please finish this off via pm.

The Durutti Column · 07-06-2011 3:36pm

Damo9090 wrote: »

Please finish this off via pm.

It's finished — OBVIOUSLY

pixbyjohn · 07-06-2011 6:27pm

DSC_5844 by pixbyjohn, on Flickr

pixbyjohn · 07-06-2011 6:28pm

DSC_5843 by pixbyjohn, on Flickr

Blanchflower · 07-06-2011 7:23pm

I see the offending fence in the sea has been altered away from the jetty. I suppose this makes it "safe" then or does it?

pixbyjohn · 07-06-2011 8:36pm

This evening

DSC_5859 by pixbyjohn, on Flickr

Fiachra2 · 08-06-2011 7:04am

Blanchflower wrote: »

I see the offending fence in the sea has been altered away from the jetty. I suppose this makes it "safe" then or does it?

No its still a hazard. However the fact that it has been moved shows a willingness on the part of SISPAR to respond to pressure from the community. They are now coming under pressure to make some major changes so lets hope this willingness continues!

F3 · 08-06-2011 7:30am

I note that the Facebook group "give us back our harbour" has just reached the 700 mark in members!! And I note that they have a couple of thousand names in their petition books already!!! That group was 'born' right here on page..........I gotta check, hang on.....

F3 · 08-06-2011 7:38am

F3 wrote: »

I note that the Facebook group "give us back our harbour" has just reached the 700 mark in members!! And I note that they have a couple of thousand names in their petition books already!!! That group was 'born' right here on page..........I gotta check, hang on.....

Page 41 post 612.............

Fiachra2 · 09-06-2011 8:29am

The Greystones Harbour development company Sispar and the community activist group GUBOH met on 8 June, at the harbour site offices to discuss GUBOH's proposals for implementing an interim landscaping and furnishing plan which will restore full public access to the harbour and the beach to the community, and provide accommodation for boats to harbour users in the local clubs.

The overall tone of the meeting was positive, with Sispar making it clear that they share the concerns of GUBOH and the Greystones community. The company said it would do all it could to implement a plan which would meet those concerns in the shortest possible time. The GUBOH representatives made it clear that further delay on account of economic or financial circumstances, or waiting on a decision by NAMA, is unacceptable to the community, and Sispar acknowledged this.

Both Sispar and GUBOH agreed that 30 June is the deadline by which an action plan will be formulated, and that action would then take place irrespective of whether or not NAMA had made a decision by then. This will be the first step in a wider plan and will cover access to the southern end of the harbour.

The company agreed to take on board the specific proposals contained in the GUBOH document, as well as other proposals it has received, and to return with its own proposals by a target date of 27 June.

GUBOH will make a full statement later.

Langerland · 09-06-2011 10:27am

Here's hoping.....And lets hope for an Indian Summer to enjoy it.

Mr Posh · 09-06-2011 12:49pm

Thanks very much GUBOH

Al least someone is working on behalf of the people…………I can't wait for the local elections

toitle · 09-06-2011 4:57pm

Well done and thank you very much

Jimjay · 09-06-2011 6:21pm

Really well done guboh, it's amazing what you have achieved so far, compared to months of 'Talk and no action' from our councilors, let's hope they keep their promise.

pixbyjohn · 09-06-2011 9:55pm

"Sispar accepted that the need to open up the south end of the harbour to the community is a “given”. The company accepted that a plan to do this must be finalised as quickly as possible, and implemented immediately thereafter.

Directors Paraic Keogh and Paddy O’Rourke agreed a target date of 27 June by which they would return to the community with proposals which would take into account the proposals submitted by GUBOH and other parties
Sispar agreed that immediate action would be essential if access was to be available in time for the August Bank Holiday."

If the above work actually happens and the harbour areas mentioned are open to the public for August 2011 it will be a great boost for the people of Greystones.
Sispar seem to be extremely cooperative. Well done to everyone involved in all the negotiations to have the harbour and surrounding areas opened to the public again.

Fiachra2 · 10-06-2011 7:06am

Below is the full text of the GUBOH press release.

While great progress has been made, continuous pressure is required to try and make it happen on time. There is still a great reluctance among some of those involved to make this happen. I would encourage everyone to join our facebook group (which now has nearly 750 members) and show your support.

THE ‘Give Us Back Our Harbour’ group and directors of harbour development company Sispar held a first meeting on Wednesday 8 June and agreed several steps aimed at opening the fenced-off harbour to the public this summer.

Sispar accepted that the need to open up the south end of the harbour to the community is a “given”. The company accepted that a plan to do this must be finalised as quickly as possible, and implemented immediately thereafter.

Directors Paraic Keogh and Paddy O’Rourke agreed a target date of 27 June by which they would return to the community with proposals which would take into account the proposals submitted by GUBOH and other parties.

GUBOH handed over copies of the group’s latest proposals, updated in the light of earlier discussions and subsequent advice. Given that whatever interim works are carried out now could be in place for some years to come, the proposals stress the need for a quality approach and high standards in implementing them.

The group was represented by spokesman Basil Miller, John Byrne, Fiachra Etchingham and John FFF O’Brien. The group strongly put the case that plans to open the entire site need to be considered in the light of the economic and banking collapse and the subsequent funding shortage.

GUBOH suggested landscaping and opening up the north side of the development (apart from the area needed for the Primary Care Centre (PCC)) including the north harbour wall. Sispar agreed to consider this and engage in further consultations.

They also suggested placing fixed moorings in both inner and outer basins as a means of providing a revenue stream and opening the area to public use. The company agreed to consider this.

The GUBOH plan emphasises the need that any temporary works be of good quality and should restore the general attractiveness of the harbour area as a visitor destination, as well as giving back the amenity to the public.

“Greystones harbour has always been at the heart of the town,” Miller told the Sispar representatives. “It has been essential to tourism in the immediate area and is the termination of the Bray to Greystones Cliff Walk. It is also a hinge point in plans for a continuous coastal walk stretching from Bray to Wicklow

Because of the importance to tourism of restoring the visual attractiveness of the area, GUBOH stressed that any work must be take this wider context into account.
“Whatever is done to ensure this must be done to quality standards. It must be acceptable both aesthetically and functionally. It must preserve the attractiveness of the spot and, in fact, it must add to and enhance the attractiveness of the area in its quality and aesthetics,” said Miller.

The GUBOH representatives emphasised the need for speedy action. Fiachra Etchingham pointed out that work on a plan submitted by 27 June would have to start on-site that same week in order to ensure the beach and other amenities would be available to the public for any substantial part of the summer.

Sispar agreed that immediate action would be essential if access was to be available in time for the August Bank Holiday.

GUBOH suggested that the area of the proposed public park be landscaped to a basic standard of quality as a second step in the process and opened as a temporary park before the end of this year.

GUBOH accepted that further consultations between Sispar and the local community would be via the meetings recommended unanimously by Town Councillors at their meeting on 31 May, where GUBOH will be represented.

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See facebook.com/groups/greystones and greystones.posterous.com

cuddlycavies · 10-06-2011 7:37am

Fantastic example of people power making things happen. Congrats and sincere thanks to Fiachra, Basil and the two Johns for your tireless efforts on behalf of the community.

F3 · 10-06-2011 7:40am

Well done to you lads! But watch out, it's not over til the fat lady sings........contractors, banks & politicians, what a cocktail for disaster, keep a vigilant eye on progress! But I agree GUBOH have achieved more in 6 weeks than any civil movement I can remember! You lads just don't give in

Taltos · 10-06-2011 7:48am

Well done indeed all - nice to see some progress.
Wonder though when our local pols will jump in and claim a victory on this.

Will be great to see it opened up at long last.

Now any chance they will dredge the mens, install the diving board and the old raft that used to be out there

F3 · 10-06-2011 10:23am

Don't worry lads who claims victory, we know the truth! Anyway from the way you guys have run the operation, the real victory will be for the people of Greystones, that (correct me if I'm wrong) was your consistent approach from the start. It fills me with great pride that there are selfless Irish people with strong morals and clear vision you really are the genuine concerned people of Greystones, who really have their priorites right, when GUBOH said enough is enough, I now know you really meant it. I'm sure it's taken alot of time and alot of diplomacy! Fair play to Grainne for listening to you and taking it forward, fair play to all other TC's for rowing in behind, you got the TC's the TD's and the WCC's all singing from the same hymn sheet in only 5 weeks?!! A real total community effort, power to the people!! Well well done. Final furlong now, don't let them trip up! We are relying on you to finish the game, nevervgive up, never give in, GREYSTONES will support it GUBOH sons all the way!!

youknowwho · 10-06-2011 1:22pm

Well done lads its great to see the community speaking as one and not letting politicians avoid their responsibilites or developers walk over us and destroy our town.

Next up the La Touch hotel................

The Durutti Column · 10-06-2011 2:26pm

youknowwho wrote: »

Well done lads its great to see the community speaking as one and not letting politicians avoid their responsibilites or developers walk over us and destroy our town.

Next up the La Touch hotel................

Yeah, and we won't even have to change the initials: GUBOHotel...

The Durutti Column · 10-06-2011 2:30pm

As F3 says, it's not over until, and there are several hurdles still to leap. Can we also ask all of you to sign up on Facebook and support the effort?

It's at http://on.fb.me/greystones

See also: Causes -- http://bit.ly/harbour-back
Website: http://bit.ly/greyharb

Thanks all for the support so far....

pixbyjohn · 10-06-2011 4:31pm

youknowwho wrote: »

Well done lads its great to see the community speaking as one and not letting politicians avoid their responsibilites or developers walk over us and destroy our town.

Next up the La Touch hotel................

The Durutti Column wrote: »

Yeah, and we won't even have to change the initials: GUBOHotel...

Different circumstances altogether, don't lose the run of yourselves.

The Durutti Column · 10-06-2011 4:54pm

pixbyjohn wrote: »

Different circumstances altogether, don't lose the run of yourselves.

Oh, we have very ambitious plans....

(just kidding)

Blanchflower · 11-06-2011 12:45am

The Durutti Column wrote: »

Yeah, and we won't even have to change the initials: GUBOHotel...

The restoration of the hulk of the La Touche Hotel would indeed be a noble cause but not for anyone of sane mind and body. The outer appearance of this once famous hotel and indeed her insides show her to be way past her best. You would need more than a lick of paint here and there to spruce her up and restore her to her former beauty. The receiver was seeking €15 million a couple of years ago for her and her site. She should now be CPO’ed and taken over by the County Council and demolished and in her place a world class hotel and event centre could be built.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KODXiz2jBfg

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