The Green Brigade

RoryMac · 25-09-2011 2:20pm

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

RoryMac wrote: »

So which is it?

They complained to UEFA They complained to the Irish Government they complained to basically anyone they could

Did they have grounds for some of the complaints or were you happy with those songs?

spiralism · 25-09-2011 2:22pm

CSF wrote: »

Due to the uninformative nature of the thread title, I was unfortunately forced to open it out of curiosity

and post in it too?

CSF · 25-09-2011 2:23pm

spiralism wrote: »

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Nobody is forcing you guys to come into a thread you obviously dislike to read it nevermind post in it

it is irritating, people posting in an old firm thread to give out about us or to say we're crap... im a utd fan as well and you don't see me going onto the liverpool thread saying they're crap/giving out about them talking about liverpool, for example.

This board is for all football fans, even if anybody thinks old firm fans are beneath them we have as much a right to talk about our teams and the rivalry between them as any other fans have to talk about their own team and their rivals...

Again if you had been so kind as to label the thread 'Celtic and Rangers fans whinge about religion and the police, not their team or their rivalry' we could have no complaints. Many of us, me included read the team threads because they're sometimes about football

RoryMac · 25-09-2011 2:25pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

soon there'll be no protestants doesn't get sung, if you listen you'll hear that. roamin in the gloamin also got drowned out and is no longer sung due to the lyrics 'oh it's good to be a Roman Catholic'.

As for the scuffle with Stewards in Unirea http://sport.stv.tv/football/136844-rangers-blast-moronic-fans-for-unirea-fine/

Sooner you start going to games Jelle and stop spouting pish you hear on FF the better. The 'protest' yesterday wasn't only about sectarianism, the group are, among other things, highlighting Camera's being put in their faces and comments from the police who are doing it

Banners today said
NO STANDING
NO SWEARING
NO LATERAL MOVEMENT
NO AGGRESSIVE FLAG WAVING
Do you agree or disagree with any of this???
Another question, when you mention the Catholic Church there, what does BBE mean??

I go over to plenty of games to know that (And this is not just at Rangers or Celtic) football fans have to deal with a lot of camera's, indiscriminate searchigns by police and stewards, unfair treatment,...

And yes, that has to stop.
But it's weird how this only came about AFTER a new law was passed to supposedly combat sectarianism in and around stadiums and only AFTER Celtic fans themselves have started to feel the brunt of it.

It's almost as if they didn't expect it to backfire on themselves.

I'm not so sure about that, I think the GB demo yesterday was as much about the right to stand, lateral movement etc that has been cracked down on in recent years and IMO was timed to coincide with the news this week that Celtic were looking into the possibilty of introducing standing in the future.

Richard Hillman · 25-09-2011 2:27pm

Does anyone actually get offended by these songs or do they just complain to get the other bold boy in trouble. Its all very playschool. You are a bolder boy than me seems to be the prevailing attitude between then. No wonder everyone looks down on them.

This green brigade seem to be conflicted by their anti everything stance. Anti-sectarian but anti-political correctness. Make your mind up lads.

lubo_moravcik · 25-09-2011 2:28pm

Paully D wrote: »

Just lock the thread FFS, more shite as usual from the Old Firm supporters. There's two Superthreads that can be used for this.

The point of the thread was to highlight a protest from a group of football fans.

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

It means me Lubo
No I don't agree with it but I don't agree with the new laws

C'mom mate maybe at parkhead you drown out and change words but not at away games

See that's what gets to me. Why did he mention you in there, what was the point?? Jelle, say what you think and feel and stop running to the old timers for help. BBE, It's easy to see in you and EB at least that you are true lifelong fans, and although we might not agree on things and will always have that bit of rivalry, it's true and is in our hearts and we won't deny the other that. The ones who I personally find it difficult to interact with on here are people who can't fight their own battle and talk about what they truly believe in, but come on with bull**** patter taken from another forum.

Anyway

It's taking time on your last bit there BBE, yet I've been at Rugby Park, Tannadice and Pittodrie and heard the add ons being drowned out and and the proper versions being sung louder. It won't happen overnight but it's happening, hopefully in your own support too.

Jelle, come back to me when you've been to a game :rolleyes:

Jelle1880 · 25-09-2011 2:31pm

I only mentioned BBE to back up his point, I don't need to 'run to old timers'.
As I said, I've been to plenty of games, both home and away, SPL, Cup and Europe.

And you can claim they are being drowned out, but either the microphones are playing pre-recorded sounds or they're not drowned out at all.

RoryMac: I heard that too, and it could be that it just so happens to come together around the same period.
But I wouldn't support lateral movement at CP, the place might come down as it's made from Meccano

UglyBolloxFace · 25-09-2011 2:32pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

As for your comments about Manchester, Barcelona and Unirea (There was hardly damage, just a scuffle with stewards.

Are you seriously saying that what Rangers fans perpetrated in Manchester was "just a scuffle with stewards"? Really? What occurred was absolutely disgusting and every Rangers fan who took part should be ashamed.

Jelle1880 · 25-09-2011 2:35pm

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

Are you seriously saying that what Rangers fans perpetrated in Manchester was "just a scuffle with stewards"? Really? What occurred was absolutely disgusting and every Rangers fan who took part should be ashamed.

That was put after Unirea, it's clear as day but don't let that stop you from twisting the words.

UglyBolloxFace · 25-09-2011 2:37pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

That was put after Unirea, it's clear as day but don't let that stop you from twisting the words.

Well in future, you should structure your sentences more clearly so that we know exactly what you mean. And another thing, you say there was "hardly damage" - if so, then why were RFC fined 18,000 GBP for combined fines and damage repair costs?

lubo_moravcik · 25-09-2011 2:40pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I only mentioned BBE to back up his point, I don't need to 'run to old timers'.
As I said, I've been to plenty of games, both home and away, SPL, Cup and Europe.

And you can claim they are being drowned out, but either the microphones are playing pre-recorded sounds or they're not drowned out at all.

RoryMac: I heard that too, and it could be that it just so happens to come together around the same period.
But I wouldn't support lateral movement at CP, the place might come down as it's made from Meccano

I know you're not making a joke about stadiums collapsing.

Jelle1880 wrote: »

That was put after Unirea, it's clear as day but don't let that stop you from twisting the words.

Is it this Unirea you're talking about?? http://sport.stv.tv/football/136844-rangers-blast-moronic-fans-for-unirea-fine/

bradlente · 25-09-2011 2:41pm

I thought the thread was about the ROI teams fan.:(

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 25-09-2011 2:43pm

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

The point of the thread was to highlight a protest from a group of football fans.

See that's what gets to me. Why did he mention you in there, what was the point?? Jelle, say what you think and feel and stop running to the old timers for help. BBE, It's easy to see in you and EB at least that you are true lifelong fans, and although we might not agree on things and will always have that bit of rivalry, it's true and is in our hearts and we won't deny the other that. The ones who I personally find it difficult to interact with on here are people who can't fight their own battle and talk about what they truly believe in, but come on with bull**** patter taken from another forum.

Anyway It's taking time on your last bit there BBE, yet I've been at Rugby Park, Tannadice and Pittodrie and heard the add ons being drowned out and and the proper versions being sung louder. It won't happen overnight but it's happening, hopefully in your own support too.

Jelle, come back to me when you've been to a game :rolleyes:

Yes it is happening among our support and as you say it will take time personally I have never been offended by a song in my life but then to me its only some guy at a match winding up the opposition but I do feel it has to change now as I feel both clubs should be singing about there teams rather than stuff that has happened in Ireland but thats just me.

There is also this idea among folk especially people that don't follow Rangers or Celtic that we all hate one another and try to kill one another at every opportunity and it couldn't be further from the truth of course there are elements like that by far and large though outwith the game that fans mix together are close friends with each other and get on perfectly well with each other

lubo_moravcik · 25-09-2011 2:52pm

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Yes it is happening among our support and as you say it will take time personally I have never been offended by a song in my life but then to me its only some guy at a match winding up the opposition but I do feel it has to change now as I feel both clubs should be singing about there teams rather than stuff that has happened in Ireland but thats just me.

There is also this idea among folk especially people that don't follow Rangers or Celtic that we all hate one another and try to kill one another at every opportunity and it couldn't be further from the truth of course there are elements like that by far and large though outwith the game that fans mix together are close friends with each other and get on perfectly well with each other

ColeTrain · 25-09-2011 2:53pm

CSF wrote: »

Again if you had been so kind as to label the thread 'Celtic and Rangers fans whinge about religion and the police, not their team or their rivalry' we could have no complaints. Many of us, me included read the team threads because they're sometimes about football

Very good, you think everything outside of Celtic and Rangers on boards is 100% pure football?

You've made the effort to come into this thread, read it, post in it, come back again, reply, scroll down etc..Obviously you've no interest in it?!

Poor you, next time anyone thinks of starting a thread on here we'll give you and the boys a PM to see if it's alright. Maybe it will prevent the rest of us from the inevitable headache from all the whining and moaning..

spiralism · 25-09-2011 2:54pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

Very good, you think everything outside of Celtic and Rangers on boards is 100% pure football?

You've made the effort to come into this thread, read it, post in it, come back again, reply, scroll down etc..Obviously you've no interest in it?!

Poor you, next time anyone thinks of starting a thread on here we'll give you and the boys a PM to see if it's alright. Maybe it will prevent the rest of us from the inevitable headache from all the whining and moaning..

how about we label the threads, have it in brackets "this is an old firm thread, go away" :rolleyes:

ColeTrain · 25-09-2011 2:57pm

spiralism wrote: »

how about we label the threads, have it in brackets "this is an old firm thread, go away" :rolleyes:

maybe something like this in the first post will keep them away.

CSF · 25-09-2011 3:01pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

Very good, you think everything outside of Celtic and Rangers on boards is 100% pure football?

No, but it is usually at least 1%.

ColeTrain · 25-09-2011 3:06pm

CSF wrote: »

No, but it is usually at least 1%.

What would you contribute to a discussion about the SPL anyway? Not very much I'd imagine.

Jelle1880 · 25-09-2011 3:06pm

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

Well in future, you should structure your sentences more clearly so that we know exactly what you mean. And another thing, you say there was "hardly damage" - if so, then why were RFC fined 18,000 GBP for combined fines and damage repair costs?

They were ordered to pay that fine PLUS any damages to the ground, so no that sum is not for the damages.
Unirea were also fined, or have you left that out by accident ?

And no lubo, I'm making a joke that CP is a, to put it mildly, cheap stadium

CSF · 25-09-2011 3:10pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

What would you contribute to a discussion about the SPL anyway? Not very much I'd imagine.

Nice deflection, but from having read your previous postings anyways, probably at least as much as you if nothing else.

yabadabado · 25-09-2011 3:13pm

Jelle1880 wrote: »

But I wouldn't support lateral movement at CP, the place might come down as it's made from Meccano

thats in bad taste if you know anything about Ibrox's history.

ColeTrain · 25-09-2011 3:16pm

CSF wrote: »

Nice deflection, but from having read your previous postings anyways, probably at least as much as you if nothing else.

To having no interest in a thread, posting it and then reading back on a posters history in the said thread. Very strange behaviour. One might think you were looking for an argument.

CSF · 25-09-2011 3:18pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

To having no interest in a thread, posting it and then reading back on a posters history in the said thread. Very strange behaviour. One might think you were looking for an argument.

Not the sequence of events at all, I think if you look in the last 10 posters to have read your profile I won't be there. I read the Celtic and Rangers threads when there is football in, but not this tripe that has nothing to do with football.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 25-09-2011 3:23pm

CSF wrote: »

Not the sequence of events at all, I think if you look in the last 10 posters to have read your profile I won't be there. I read the Celtic and Rangers threads when there is football in, but not this tripe that has nothing to do with football.

It may not but its certainly relevant to the future of Scottish football I generally would like all topics to be about football but this one is important to certain degree

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-09-2011 3:23pm

CSF wrote: »

Due to the uninformative nature of the thread title, I was unfortunately forced to open it out of curiosity

and four pages later you're still here?

ColeTrain · 25-09-2011 3:23pm

CSF wrote: »

Not the sequence of events at all, I think if you look in the last 10 posters to have read your profile I won't be there. I read the Celtic and Rangers threads when there is football in, but not this tripe that has nothing to do with football.

Well if you read the thread properly then you would see I post in it, mostly about football but If it offends you that much then why not take the most logical step and stay away from it?

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-09-2011 3:28pm

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

Well in future, you should structure your sentences more clearly so that we know exactly what you mean. And another thing, you say there was "hardly damage" - if so, then why were RFC fined 18,000 GBP for combined fines and damage repair costs?

Im no defender of jellie but it was as clear as could be what he was he referring too. I dont think even the thickest rangers fan would refer to Manchester as a scuffle with stewards.

CSF · 25-09-2011 3:28pm

ColeTrain wrote: »

Well if you read the thread properly then you would see I post in it, mostly about football but If it offends you that much then why not take the most logical step and stay away from it?

I never said you didn't post about football in the Celtic thread. And look at the actual sequence of events here. I open thread, not knowing what its about, read it, am annoyed by it(its hard enough having to read this muck in the team threads), and then post as such. I'm then attacked back, I'm naturally going to reply especially given that most of the retorts have been poor and without a valid point at best.

Its a common trend on the boards soccer forum, someone posts a thread that isn't about football and unless that thread is ridiculously funny and witty, people are going to complain that it isn't about football. You can say that I just don't have to read the threads, but if everyone used that defence, (and I'm not trying to backseat mod here at all, I'm only saying this since you've brought it up), but the whole forum would be clogged with this kinda thing.

Jelle1880 · 25-09-2011 3:30pm

yabadabado wrote: »

thats in bad taste if you know anything about Ibrox's history.

I see how that can be taken from that, but I most certainly didn't mean it like that.

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-09-2011 3:31pm

CSF wrote: »

Again if you had been so kind as to label the thread 'Celtic and Rangers fans whinge about religion and the police, not their team or their rivalry' we could have no complaints. Many of us, me included read the team threads because they're sometimes about football

where was religion mentioned? And you obviously dont have a problem with how football is policed wherever you go, right?

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-09-2011 3:36pm

CSF wrote: »

Not the sequence of events at all, I think if you look in the last 10 posters to have read your profile I won't be there. I read the Celtic and Rangers threads when there is football in, but not this tripe that has nothing to do with football.

Actually it has absolutely everything to do with the match day experience for football fans. Maybe you dont go to matches regularly? I dont know, i may be wrong

A Dub in Glasgo · 25-09-2011 3:39pm

CSF wrote: »

Its a common trend on the boards soccer forum, someone posts a thread that isn't about football and unless that thread is ridiculously funny and witty, people are going to complain that it isn't about football. You can say that I just don't have to read the threads, but if everyone used that defence, (and I'm not trying to backseat mod here at all, I'm only saying this since you've brought it up), but the whole forum would be clogged with this kinda thing.

You are very wrong, this has everything to do with (Scottish) football. The lawmakers and politicians in Scotland want to demonise football supporters and this was a protest against that demonisation from a Celtic supporter group. You really believe that the police and security staff behaviour towards football supporters at the game has nothing to do with football?

Gavin "shels" · 25-09-2011 3:40pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Maybe you dont go to matches regularly? I dont know, i may be wrong

Hahahaha brilliant! And the Celtic fans on here do!?:D Needed that laugh tbh.

CSF · 25-09-2011 3:43pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Actually it has absolutely everything to do with the match day experience for football fans. Maybe you dont go to matches regularly? I dont know, i may be wrong

Every competitive game bar 1, home or away for 2 years. If you're having a tit for tat game, I win.

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-09-2011 3:45pm

CSF wrote: »

Every competitive game bar 1, home or away for 2 years. If you're having a tit for tat game, I win.

Okay sorry, im way off. Respect.

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-09-2011 3:47pm

Gavin shels wrote: »

Hahahaha brilliant! And the Celtic fans on here do!?:D Needed that laugh tbh.

Well i cant say and have no way of knowing how many go to how many games? Obviously you can though so well done you.

lubo_moravcik · 25-09-2011 3:47pm

Gavin shels wrote: »

Hahahaha brilliant! And the Celtic fans on here do!?:D Needed that laugh tbh.

Aye, Season Ticket holder who is over every 2nd week at least. Will be there on Thursday night too.

lubo_moravcik · 25-09-2011 3:49pm

CSF wrote: »

Every competitive game bar 1, home or away for 2 years. If you're having a tit for tat game, I win.

Who do you support?

CSF · 25-09-2011 3:49pm

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Aye, Season Ticket holder who is over every 2nd week at least. Will be there on Thursday night too.

Part-timer;)

A Dub in Glasgo · 25-09-2011 3:49pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Well i cant say and have no way of knowing how many go to how many games? Obviously you can though so well done you.

Don't mind Gavin, hes a real harrrdcore football supporter and looks down at those whom he believes do not have the same 'commitment'

Gavin "shels" · 25-09-2011 3:50pm

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Don't mind Gavin, hes a real harrrdcore football supporter and looks down at those whom he believes do not have the same 'commitment'

Nah, I actually just go to matches, mental I know!

lubo_moravcik · 25-09-2011 3:54pm

CSF wrote: »

Part-timer;)

I know I know, pure arm chair fan here

Are you a member of a bus??

dsmythy · 25-09-2011 4:06pm

I knew this thread would descend

Coillte_Bhoy · 25-09-2011 4:43pm

Gavin shels wrote: »

Nah, I actually just go to matches, mental I know!

Like so many others but wait, you go to LoI games dont you? ah well thats you on the moral high ground then

stovelid · 25-09-2011 9:46pm

I support the Against Modern Football movement.

I support the Ultras of all clubs - including the Scottish-based members of the Green Brigade

I don't give a fuck about internecine Prod and Catholic shite in foreign leagues.

I don't give a fuck about "Bhoys" and "Ghirls".

I don't give a fuck about rivalries constructed around pathological victim projection.

I care about the plight of clubs with Irish traditions because I actually support one.

There I said it.

flahavaj · 25-09-2011 9:55pm

stovelid wrote: »

I support the Against Modern Football movement.

I support the Ultras of all clubs - including the Scottish-based members of the Green Brigade

I don't give a fuck about internecine Prod and Catholic shite in foreign leagues.

I don't give a fuck about "Bhoys" and "Ghirls".

I don't give a fuck about rivalries constructed around pathological victim projection.

I care about the plight of clubs with Irish traditions because I actually support one.

There I said it.

I think it was essential for the smooth running of the thread that you clarified your particular position with such precision. Cheers.

That you tube vid is pretty class I have to say. Great support.

ColeTrain · 25-09-2011 9:58pm

flahavaj wrote: »

I think it was essential for the smooth running of the thread that you clarified your particular position with such precision. Cheers.
That you tube vid is pretty class I have to say. Great support.

Was just thinking that myself

. The whole thread hinged on StoveLids personal viewpoint, I'm glad we all know now..

stovelid · 25-09-2011 10:00pm

flahavaj wrote: »

I think it was essential for the smooth running of the thread that you clarified your particular position with such precision. Cheers.
That you tube vid is pretty class I have to say. Great support.

Not that you really deep down give a fucking gee hair about Celtic, LOI or any other topic raised in the thread of course.

flahavaj · 25-09-2011 10:02pm

stovelid wrote: »

Not that you really deep down give a fucking gee hair about Celtic, LOI or any other topic raised in the thread of course.

I've had some great craic at Celtic games over the years actually.

Though you do raise an excellent point about the relevance of LOI (or lack of it) to this thread in fairness to you.

The Green Brigade

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