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Rural Broadband Scheme Information Megathread

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  • #52
    bob11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭bob11


    I see that Digiweb are now offering 10 Mb over satellite from the new Ka-sat service from Tooway : http://www.digiweb.ie/home/tooway/


  • #53
    bealtine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    johnners2981 wrote: »
    Received a letter a couple of days ago, at least they're not using satellite for the rural broadband scheme, well not in phase 2 anyway

    How do you know they won't use sat?


  • #54
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    bob11 wrote: »
    I see that Digiweb are now offering 10 Mb over satellite from the new Ka-sat service from Tooway : http://www.digiweb.ie/home/tooway/

    While the Irish Ka Sat spot beam is the largest dollop of sat bandwith ever pointed at Ireland the total Tooway thruput on Ka Sat , around 6-700mbits or so is only the same as a small exchange with fibre backhaul....of which there are quite a few even in rural Ireland.

    That is allowing for the RTE saorsat bandwidth, some kept back for more lucrative business such as large sport events and the fact that the 82 Ka Sat Beams are capable of max 850mbits each (of which Ireland gets one beam for now and is unlikely to more than a smidge of 2 others ...ever.....)

    Hylas has Two beams over Ireland/UK but only has a throughput of 3 Gigahertz across its 8 spot beams and the main pan european beam.

    Meh, 400mbits for us maybe, so the two largest data sats in Europe can only deliver 1 Gbit between them in Ireland.

    Completely uncontended that is 100 x 10mbit customers hammering away....60 on Ka Sat and 40 on Hylas perhaps. Bit more if they jiggy with the UK beams. They simply must contend. There are already something like 2000 NBS users on the old Hotbird Tooway which meant the poor cnuts were only sharing 100mbits between them or so (3 transponders on HB6 I think)

    footprint_hylas1.jpg


  • #55
    yuloni
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭yuloni


    This post has been deleted.


  • #56
    LaVail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭LaVail


    Condi wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Was just chatting with their sales team and to avail of their 150+ TV channels you already have to be an existing broadband customer. The installation fee for broadband is ~€249.00 and if you want the TV channels its a once off fee of €370.00 but you wont have to pay monthly after that.

    Their lowest BB package is 6Mb down & 1Mb up with a monthly cap of 4GB costing €22.49pm for the first 3 months I think and then €44.99 every month after :(


  • #57
    roast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭roast


    LaVail wrote: »
    Was just chatting with their sales team and to avail of their 150+ TV channels you already have to be an existing broadband customer. The installation fee for broadband is ~€249.00 and if you want the TV channels its a once off fee of €370.00 but you wont have to pay monthly after that.

    Their lowest BB package is 6Mb down & 1Mb up with a monthly cap of 4GB costing €22.49pm for the first 3 months I think and then €44.99 every month after :(

    Holy shhhhhhhiiii.....


  • #58
    LaVail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭LaVail


    roast wrote: »
    Holy shhhhhhhiiii.....

    Better start saving now if we want to have it by this time next year :p

    And sure the 4GB allowance will be handy for checking our email's :p


  • #59
    johnners2981
    Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭johnners2981


    So........ when is this phase 2 thing happening?


  • #60
    bealtine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    johnners2981 wrote: »
    So........ when is this phase 2 thing happening?

    http://www.dcenr.gov.ie/Communications/Communications+Development/Rural+Broadband+Scheme


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  • #61
    darrenheaphy
    Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭darrenheaphy


    Unfortunately I live in Templeorum, Co. Kilkenny and am 8KM away form Eircom exchange in Mullinavat. I can't therefore avail of DSL :(

    I'm looking into Satellite broadband, seems to me to be the only alternative (3G or midband being unsuitable for streaming or occasional, but not essential, gaming).

    As far as I can tell there are two providers of this:

    Onwave
    Digiweb

    Both use tooway so I presume the service is more or less the same albeit with different rate limits and download usage restrictions.

    Anyway, my question is this - Since Templeorum appears to be within the rural broadband scheme (pdf map) am I better off waiting to be contacted or will they invariably point me towards the above in any event?


  • #62
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    you registered by end july i take it


  • #63
    darrenheaphy
    Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭darrenheaphy


    ... no :) Should I have?

    Not having internet access, and rarely the time in work, I didn't even know there was such a scheme!


  • #64
    johnners2981
    Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭johnners2981


    When is phase to starting anyway, registration ended over a month ago.

    And what is going to happen? I've been holding off on joining 3 mobile broadband in the hope theres another option with this scheme


  • #65
    jimmyendless
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 628 ✭✭✭jimmyendless


    Just got call from OnWave, they are calling out within the hr to setup the Sat Broadband, took about 6months to convince 3 that the 3G out in the sticks of Kerry didn't work great. I'll report back on performance soon.


  • #66
    long_b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,947 ✭✭✭long_b


    Tricky second post syndrome


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  • #67
    BeerWolf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    With the RBS currently in verification period atm, I'm actually curious to what kind of broadband it would actually be providing...

    I'm curious to the sense that, Mobile Broadband is practically available everywhere in Ireland - just the matter of the actual quality and bandwidth of it. ..

    So with that being said, if you already got Mobile Broadband in your area, would this have automatically deselected me from the Scheme's "rollout"... where they'd just forward me to a Mobile Broadband service provider... ?

    I seriously hope that isn't the case, cause I'm currently using MB and my connection's bloody rubbish!


  • #68
    roast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭roast


    There's a megathread stickied for the RBS btw.

    You have to sign up for the scheme. Depending on various factors, you still may get it regardless of whether you have midband with another provider or not, afaik.


  • #69
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    I seriously hope that isn't the case, cause I'm currently using MB and my connection's bloody rubbish!
    Tell them there are trees in the way so it plain don't work. Their mapping don't show trees in 3D ...they will never know. :D

    They have to send you off for fixed wireless or DSL subsidy then.


  • #70
    lehane98
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭lehane98


    jimmyendless wrote: »
    Just got call from OnWave, they are calling out within the hr to setup the Sat Broadband, took about 6months to convince 3 that the 3G out in the sticks of Kerry didn't work great. I'll report back on performance soon.

    Jimmy how are you finding the satelite broadband with onwave? im trying to decide to either go with Onwave, Digiwebb or Qsat. Or maybe i should be forgetting about satellite broadband as an option completely.


  • #71
    SamOptimoo
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭SamOptimoo


    Rural Broadband Scheme? I’m on the list – should I have heard something by now? Are deadlines slipping?


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  • #72
    clohamon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭clohamon


    Here's some questions you could get your local TD to ask in the Daíl.
    • Has the Minister yet finalised the list of qualifying applicants for the RBS ?
    • How many are on the list ?
    • Has that finalised list of applicants been furnished to the list of providers ?
    • Has any list of applicants been furnished to the list of providers ?
    • How many names have been supplied to providers so far ?
    • Have the providers completed their efforts to supply broadband services to those on the list ?
    • Have all or any of the providers reported back to the department with a final list of those that have been supplied ?
    • If not, what is the deadline by which providers must have indicated that they have supplied service to those on the list ?
    • How many now remain on the list as unserved ?
    • Has the department issued an open invitation to tender for the supply of a broadband service in line with the requirements of Part 10(b) of Decision N607/2009 of the European Commission ?
    • If so, why has a tender notice not appeared on www.etenders.gov.ie ?
    • Has the department finalised the relative weighting of the criteria to be used in assessing the tenders and will they be specified in advance as required by Part 10(c) of Decision N607/2009 of the European Commission ?
    • If so, what are the criteria and what are their relative weightings ?
    • What is the best current estimate by him or his department of the award date of the contract ?
    • What is the best current estimate of the required completion date of the contract ?


  • #73
    clohamon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭clohamon


    Interview with Pat Rabbitte.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/morningireland/
    Broadband issues are at 5.40
    The broadband service is improving all the time. The last piece of the jigsaw is being put in place at the moment in terms of the Rural Broadband scheme, which I announced some 5 or 6 months ago, and which is being rolled out….. which is being put out to tender now.


  • #74
    jbkenn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭jbkenn


    clohamon wrote: »
    Interview with Pat Rabbitte.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/morningireland/
    Broadband issues are at 5.40
    Good man Pat, continuing the long tradition of useless Ministers with responsibility for the Communications portfolio, why break the habits of a lifetime. when you can follow in the path of such luminaries as
    "Shameon" Ryan, who gave us the NBS and 3 €78.2 million
    "Dialup" Dempsey, who gave us the unlit MANs and earned himself a pension of €119,000 for life
    "Blasphemy" Aherne who gave us the GBS and earned himself a pension of €119,000 for life
    "Nanny" O'Rourke, who privatised Telecom Eireann and earned herself a pension of €117,000 for life
    Yes indeed Pat you truly are in some illustrious company, now what will you cost us when you leave your trail of wreckage behind you, as you head off into the land of "Permanent payroll"


  • #75
    cpio
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭cpio


    clohamon wrote: »
    Here's some questions you could get your local TD to ask in the Daíl.

    Many of your questions are answered at http://www.dcenr.gov.ie/Communications/Communications+Development/Rural+Broadband+Scheme/ and at http://www.dcenr.gov.ie/Communications/Communications+Development/Rural+Broadband+Scheme/Participating+Internet+Service+Providers.htm


  • #76
    long_b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,947 ✭✭✭long_b


    I've has previous issues with a telco who said they could provide a service but patently couldn't when it came down to it.
    If the same crowd offer to supply a service under this scheme, can I veto them on the grounds they've tried and failed before ?


  • #77
    cpio
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭cpio


    long_b wrote: »
    I've has previous issues with a telco who said they could provide a service but patently couldn't when it came down to it.
    If the same crowd offer to supply a service under this scheme, can I veto them on the grounds they've tried and failed before ?

    My reading of the RBS website is that there is no need to 'veto' an ISP: "In the second phase of the Scheme, the Department will check with existing internet service providers to see if they are willing to provide a service to the premises concerned. If they are willing to provide a service, we will write to you and ask your permission to be contacted by the companies concerned. If a service can be provided to you in this way, your application under the scheme will be closed. "

    Conversely, if no participating ISP is able provide you with a functioning service at your home you will proceed to the next phase in the scheme.

    It could be the case that if an ISP sees a cluster of buildings in your area looking for broadband they might make additional efforts to get service to your area. However if they all can't get broadband to you, you'll still be in the scheme.


  • #78
    long_b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,947 ✭✭✭long_b


    Got the letter with the consent form

    May not be news to some but here are the specs:
      2Mbps/256Kbps Down/up
      Contention ratio 48:1
      Minimum uncharged data cap 11 GB (10 GB down, 1 GB up)
      Upfront fee not to exceed 100 euros incl VAT
      Monthly cost not to exceed 40 euros/pm incl VAT
      Term of contract not to exceed 12 months

    List of potential suppliers reduced a bit from the full county list but I know for a fact two out of the 4 listed for me currently can't provide the service.


  • #79
    LaVail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭LaVail


    long_b wrote: »
    I know for a fact two out of the 4 listed for me currently can't provide the service.

    They sent me the same letter and stated "three :rolleyes:" and "eircom" could provide the service...I live too far from the exchange for eircom to be of any use. I would get less than 1Mb from them and I was with three before and for months got 0.01-0.50Mbps speed. Even though 2Mbps is the minimum speed that they say has to be delivered.

    Can't believe the government think that three is broadband...this whole scheme is going to be a waste of time if that's the case.


  • #80
    clohamon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭clohamon


    long_b wrote: »
    Got the letter with the consent form

    May not be news to some but here are the specs:
      2Mbps/256Kbps Down/up
      Contention ratio 48:1
      Minimum uncharged data cap 11 GB (10 GB down, 1 GB up)
      Upfront fee not to exceed 100 euros incl VAT
      Monthly cost not to exceed 40 euros/pm incl VAT
      Term of contract not to exceed 12 months

    List of potential suppliers reduced a bit from the full county list but I know for a fact two out of the 4 listed for me currently can't provide the service.

    Have the department done anything for you that you haven't already, or couldn't have done for yourself ?


  • #81
    long_b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,947 ✭✭✭long_b


    clohamon wrote: »
    Have the department done anything for you that you haven't already, or couldn't have done for yourself ?

    Nope.

    At best I thought this might be a cheaper way to try satellite for a year - I wasn't expecting much.

    How come the NBS is 20 pm and RBS have to pay 40 ?


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  • #82
    clohamon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭clohamon


    The RBS is just a satellite dating service. They do not expect to hand out any financial assistance at all.

    They also claim that they are not allowed to subsidise monthly fees under EU state aid rules.

    There was nearly €18M budgeted for rural broadband including €14M from Brussels. It looks like none of it will be spent.


  • #83
    bijou
    Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭bijou


    Have been on midband for a long time due to the fact we can’t get anything else where we live (can only get coverage from 1 provider). Connection has been erratic to say the least (extremely poor speeds, ridiculous pings, and constant disconnections). The provider have always been adamant we were in a borderline coverage area so connection couldn’t be guaranteed (it has taken me the best part of a year to convince them we live within their 3G coverage area).

    I’ve been on to them countless times about the dismal service. The last time I was on to them they said they would raise my problems with their tech dept (again!!) I asked them if they find there is nothing they can do to improve the service can they put this in writing so I could at least try for the NBS.

    I got a letter from them last week stating that they had removed me from contract and I should call their tech people to arrange disconnection……. I took this as being their way of agreeing they can’t provide a stable service :rolleyes:

    I only learnt of the RBS after the deadline for applications so was too late for that. So I suppose if I asked the RBS nicely they might take pity and let me apply???? (I suppose not). :cool:


  • #84
    clohamon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭clohamon


    bijou wrote: »

    I only learnt of the RBS after the deadline for applications so was too late for that. So I suppose if I asked the RBS nicely they might take pity and let me apply???? (I suppose not). :cool:

    The NBS is an area based scheme http://www.three.ie/nbs/
    The RBS closed promptly on 29th July 2011. That's it.

    If you phone them, please ask what they've done with all the EU money.


  • #85
    bijou
    Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭bijou


    clohamon wrote: »
    The NBS is an area based scheme http://www.three.ie/nbs/
    The RBS closed promptly on 29th July 2011. That's it.

    If you phone them, please ask what they've done with all the EU money.

    :D:D:D
    Well...... I'm not in the NBS coverage area either. Funnily enough I contacted comreg about the NBS (after being referred to them by 3) :rolleyes:

    I asked them why it was called “National Broadband” as looking at their map (to me) it’s selective areas (one area covered by the NBS down the road from me has DSL/FWA/midband yet where I am I can only get this erratic midband connection – I got a phone call from some woman at comreg who wanted to confirm where I lived and basically said it was tough and that the area I live in had sufficient “broadband” coverage.

    When I asked her to explain this to me and she said that the population ratios accounted for where the NBS covered, so a biggish town 8 miles away (already with DSL/FWA/midband access) needed the NBS coverage more than a smaller village. Our exchange here has been enabled since 2007 but Eircom won’t upgrade the local lines so can’t avail of DSL (and believe me I ain't reconnecting my landline for the joys of dial-up).

    My God.... the woman even asked me why I haven't tried for UPC (I live in Co Roscommon!!!!!) - my response was "I will do in 40 years time..... maybe!!" :mad::mad::mad:

    Apologies for hijacking an RBS thread Mods:o


  • #86
    bambam26
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭bambam26


    Hi,

    I got the consent form yesterday and the ISPs that have indicated they may be able to offer a service is

    Eircom & eMobile
    QSAT
    Ripplecom

    I cannot get Eircom so i dont know why they are on it

    Anyone know anything about QSAT or Ripplecom


  • #87
    bealtine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    bambam26 wrote: »
    Hi,

    I got the consent form yesterday and the ISPs that have indicated they may be able to offer a service is

    Eircom & eMobile
    QSAT
    Ripplecom

    I cannot get Eircom so i dont know why they are on it

    Anyone know anything about QSAT or Ripplecom

    Stay away from any satellite service, it's not really broadband and the download caps are pathetic. QSat are the worst of them all.

    Also a mobile service is not really broadband either so avoid that if possible.
    It could be better than satellite or it might not be.

    I don't know much about Ripplecom but at a quick look it seems to be the best choice


  • #88
    long_b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,947 ✭✭✭long_b


    bealtine wrote: »
    Stay away from any satellite service, it's not really broadband and the download caps are pathetic. QSat are the worst of them all.
    I'm agreeing with everything you say but as part of the RBS the satellite providers have to give you at least (and probably exactly) 10GB down/1GB up.


  • #89
    bealtine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    long_b wrote: »
    I'm agreeing with everything you say but as part of the RBS the satellite providers have to give you at least (and probably exactly) 10GB down/1GB up.

    These limits are not set by the satellite resellers here in Ireland but by the operators, so I don't see how any reseller can possibly provide anything like 10Gb.
    If the NBS shows us anything, it is that the resellers say they will deliver X Gb and then promptly ignore the limits. Unless the DECNR is actually serious about these limits, which they are not, you can pretty much be guaranteed they won't be delivered.


  • #90
    baords dyslexic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 902 ✭✭✭baords dyslexic


    Also got the letter this week, what a total waste of fcuking time. 2 Wireless providers listed that don't cover my area plus QSAT total joke.

    Can anyone tell me htf QSAT can provide a 48:1 contention ratio?


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  • #91
    Earthday
    Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭Earthday


    like others I got

    Eircom & emobile
    National wireless broadband
    osat
    three

    funny thing is that, my neighbour has eircom broadband, but I can't cuz of the split land line.

    Who are National wireless broadband?, tried to look them, found nothing about them, is it also midband??.


  • #92
    clohamon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭clohamon


    Earthday wrote: »

    Who are National wireless broadband?, tried to look them, found nothing about them, is it also midband??.

    http://www.nwb.ie/


  • #93
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    baords dyslexic wrote: »
    2 Wireless providers listed that don't cover my area plus QSAT total joke.

    This is a waste of time,. Ripplecom are being suggested to everyone in Munster and Leinster even though Ripplecom are actually ABANDONING parts of their network nowadays...and much of the rest of it plain don't work. :(

    Hound your local TD and get them to ask Rabbitte why he is recommending services that do not match his own spec...or are not available.

    People with split lines can try ordering a completely new line ....where the install cost is free right now unless the job costs eircom €7k or over....and they must inform you it will in advance.


  • #94
    baords dyslexic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 902 ✭✭✭baords dyslexic


    Here's another bit of stupidity. I have 3 companies listed and my next door neighbor has 4 (3 the same plus one extra), why? Makes no sence. There's nothing that he could get that I can't - but thats still a big zero.

    Just wondering did everyone get QSAT as an option?


  • #95
    long_b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,947 ✭✭✭long_b


    I got QSAT anwyays (apologies if I'm repeating myself)

    Paraphrasing the terms of the RBS it says that if none of the listed companies can provide you with a service then the Department will sort something else out - with a Satellite provider in the mix surely this will only be a handful of cases

    What would be the best case scenario with the different types of operators ?

    Eircom (appearing as Eircom/Emobile)
    Would they actually upgrade your current phone line if you were marginal I wonder ?

    Mobile operators
    Would they just put a repeater in close to your house or can they do anything else ? Would the repeater improve the strength of your 3G signal (I know speeds vary)

    Fixed Wireless providers
    I take it if you can't get it you just can't get it (like me with Ripplecom - trees in the way)

    Satellite
    These guys would have to provide a customised package for RBS customers ?


  • #96
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    long_b wrote: »
    Eircom (appearing as Eircom/Emobile)
    Would they actually upgrade your current phone line if you were marginal I wonder ?

    Best thing to do is get a new line in and ditch the old one. eircom will wait until 'all else fails'. eMobile is 3g , ie cack.
    Mobile operators
    Would they just put a repeater in close to your house or can they do anything else ? Would the repeater improve the strength of your 3G signal (I know speeds vary)

    Repeater in the house itself.
    Fixed Wireless providers
    I take it if you can't get it you just can't get it (like me with Ripplecom - trees in the way)

    Department is unaware of trees, make a point of informing them about trees and ask them to suggest technologies that can cope with trees.
    Satellite
    These guys would have to provide a customised package for RBS customers ?

    1. They can't really. They are resellers. ( Unless ???) They use the Hylas sat at 33.5w not Astra at 28.8e by the way. The Cap is crazy right now.
    2. emmm ummmmm Trees. :) Very high frequency used ( Ka Band) and rain fade is a major issue too.

    Many small communities would be better off doing what the people of Clashmore did last year. Read > http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74983299

    RBS funding could be retroactively claimed against the cost ( assuming people had applied) .....which was not horrendous.


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  • #97
    long_b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,947 ✭✭✭long_b


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Best thing to do is get a new line in and ditch the old one. eircom will wait until 'all else fails'.
    Can you be sure they won't just split an existing line ?
    I'm assuming this woudn't do me any good as my issue is distance from the exchange - or would new wire improve my chances of getting increased speeds ?

    Repeater in the house itself.
    So this would give me a better "grab" on whatever bandwith is available at the time ?
    The Cap is crazy right now
    Wonder if they'll try to work the NightSaver feature (http://www.qsat.ie/nightsaver) into the 10 GB?


  • #98
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    long_b wrote: »
    Can you be sure they won't just split an existing line ?
    I'm assuming this woudn't do me any good as my issue is distance from the exchange - or would new wire improve my chances of getting increased speeds ?

    New wire improves your chances. Anyway if it is split ( simply ask the engineer) don't let the engineer in and he cannot install a socket thereby completing the order. Then they get nothing off you.

    I know people at 4 miles away plus on broadband...maybe only 1mbit but it works,

    So this would give me a better "grab" on whatever bandwith is available at the time ?

    Exactly, as it is 3g you simply should louder than the neighbours.

    Wonder if they'll try to work the NightSaver feature (http://www.qsat.ie/nightsaver) into the 10 GB?

    Nope, it is just that satellite is crap.


  • #99
    baords dyslexic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 902 ✭✭✭baords dyslexic


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Nope, it is just that satellite is crap.

    True but it supposed to meet the RBS standards of min 10GB down etc how it can beats me?


  • #100
    MagicSean
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    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    This is a waste of time,. Ripplecom are being suggested to everyone in Munster and Leinster even though Ripplecom are actually ABANDONING parts of their network nowadays...and much of the rest of it plain don't work. :(

    Hound your local TD and get them to ask Rabbitte why he is recommending services that do not match his own spec...or are not available.

    People with split lines can try ordering a completely new line ....where the install cost is free right now unless the job costs eircom €7k or over....and they must inform you it will in advance.

    Ripplecom have also just increased their prices and introduced a monthly cap on download and upload.


  • #101
    baords dyslexic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 902 ✭✭✭baords dyslexic


    OK so has anyone got the slightest idea how long it should be before we hear anything from the ISP's on the list that was sent out after the form was signed and returned?

    I'm already thinking that all that will happen is that the ISP's will cherry pick a few customers that they can easily provide a service for and ignore the rest leaving many people with no service and no contact?


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